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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by phd21 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:34 pm

Hi "Instigator", and others,
Instigator wrote:what i do with windows..
movies check
chrome/tor check
torrents check
steam check
league of legends check
world of tanks check
ms paint check
notepad check
Maybe I misunderstood the original post as well, I thought this was a check list of things done in MS Windows which they can now do in Linux Mint, thus the "check". FYI, as far as I know (AFAIK), these can all easily be done in Linux Mint; gaming requires the hardware to run them, obviously.

movies check - Numerous Linux programs can easily do this: SMplayer (MPV), VLC, Totem, Kodi(xbmc), etc...
chrome/tor check - You can install Google's Chrome browser on 64-bit, the new excellent "Opera" browser is Chrome Based and can run Chromes extensions & works well on 32 or 64 bit computers, and Tor Browser Bundle works well on all editions.
New Opera browser - download easy install Linux ".deb" file.
(* Recommend removing older Opera 12 first completely, if it is already installed in your system)
https://www.opera.com/download
Tor Browser Bundle Ubuntu PPA
http://www.webupd8.org/2013/12/tor-brow ... u-ppa.html

MintGuide.org links related to this...
https://mintguide.org/internet/33-insta ... a-ppa.html

To install this using the PPA method, open a console terminal, type in, or copy & paste, each line below one by one:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/tor-browser
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install tor-browser
torrents check - many great Linux torrent clients ("Ktorrent" in KDE is excellent), Deluge, etc...

steam check - "Steam" game system works well on Linux, and gets better weekly...

league of legends check - I never tried, but provided links in previous reply
world of tanks check - - I never tried, but provided links in previous reply

ms paint check - "Kolourpant"***, or "MyPaint" (for graphics tablet), Pinta, and many others
notepad check - NotepadQQ, "CherryTree" (my favorite notes app), and many others notepad and text editors are available, including "Atom".
Apparently, Notepad ++ was rewritten for Linux, and it is called "notepadqq".

How to Install Notepadqq (Notepad++ Text Editor)
http://sourcedigit.com/13031-install-no ... x-mint-17/

From a console terminal prompt, type in each line below one by one, or copy and paste each line below:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:notepadqq-team/notepadqq
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install notepadqq
Hope this helps ...
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Instigator » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:24 pm

Moem yea that's probably what ill end up doing but before I pick distro for its ssd im going to test Cub Linux.

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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Instigator » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:26 pm

phd21, thanks ill take a look at them to avoid using wine.
They backwards compatible with windows files?

For tor I just downloaded from their website and installed?

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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by phd21 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:07 pm

Hi "Instigator",

Yes, they are compatible with Windows files, just like LibreOffice can work with MS office files.

To install the "Tor Browser Bundle", or "notepadqq", use the specific instructions I gave before to install these using the PPA method from the console terminal prompt, it is quick and easy, and you can copy and paste each line one by one from my previous reply. The other programs are available in your Software Manager or Synaptic Package Manager (SPM). "Ktorrent" is installed by default, but you should add a firewall rule for it, and there is one already available in the firewall. The Opera Browser can be installed using the link I gave you. You can install Chrome from their website. I think it is a very good idea to have more than one browser installed. I have Firefox, Opera, & Tor Browser Bundle installed, and I used to have Chrome installed, until they stopped supporting the older 32-bit computers.

If you use a VPN provider, which I highly recommend, like the low-cost, but excellent "Private Internet Access (PIA)", then you really do not need the Tor Browser Bundle except for some rare circumstance.

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Instigator » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:58 am

Thanks for replying, ive used ktorrent with no firewall rules and it seems to run fine? I do recall seeing it blocking loads from ktorrent connections though but didnt investigate.

In Windows VLC stands out as the best in my opinion is this the same in Linux?
Never had any reason to use anything other than VLC are there any major features in other Media player's what VLC doesn't have?

Opera - at the moment I have Vivaldi installed and it's nice Havnt tried Opera. Isn't this based on opera?
Wesite states it's made from same people?

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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows?

Post by Hoser Rob » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:08 pm

Jedinovice wrote:... What's the issue with Office? Libreoffice runs a charm and is Office compatible. ...
Well it isn't 100% compatible and that's enough to justify Windows if you really need Office.

Also, while I don't have any Windows partitions anymore, I'm not a gamer. But if I was I'd still have some Windows. The percentage of games on Steam that run in Linux is very small, and like as not the Linux version doesn't run as well as the Windows one. Either the code wasn't really optimized for Linux, or the system drivers weren't, or both. Steam is a half assed kludge.

I have no windows because I had one partition and it had been so long since I had used it I just did a clean single boot Linux reinstall. But I don't think everyone should ditch Windows either.

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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by phd21 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:54 pm

Hi "Instigator",

You are welcome, again...
Instigator wrote:In Windows VLC stands out as the best in my opinion is this the same in Linux?
Never had any reason to use anything other than VLC are there any major features in other Media player's what VLC doesn't have?
I have found that depending on what type of video file you are playing, that certain multi-media players work better than others. A lot depends upon your computer hardware as well. The incredible "VLC" can play most multi-media content from a huge variety of sources, and do many other things with it (streaming, converting, etc...) . But, I find that "SMplayer" does better with some things.
Instigator wrote: Opera - at the moment I have Vivaldi installed and it's nice Havnt tried Opera. Isn't this based on opera? Wesite states it's made from same people?
I do not know the answer to that. If you are referring to the "Tor Browser Bundle", that is Firefox based. The reasons I stated that it is a good idea to have more than one browser installed is:

- Every now and then an update will come along and mess up a particular browser for a day or more, and then you can use the other browser until they fix it,
- And, if you have more than one person using your computer, then you can each have your own browser with your own settings without having to logout of Linux Mint and in as another user. You can also use user "profiles" with some browsers, like Firefox.
- You can have different settings, bookmarks, etc... in one browser and another completely different set for another browser. Maybe you use one for banking, or some other specific reasons...
- There are some features that are available in some browsers and not in others. "SeaMonkey" has great website building options.

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Portreve » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:14 pm

Instigator wrote:In Windows VLC stands out as the best in my opinion is this the same in Linux?
Never had any reason to use anything other than VLC are there any major features in other Media player's what VLC doesn't have?
VLC has been my go-to (video) media player since it first appeared on the scene in the early 2000s. I've used it in five versions of Windows, eight versions of Mac OS X, and on untold versions of four or five GNU+Linux distros. For me, it's done a better job than anything else.

That said, it's really not my favorite music player. It does a fine job physically playing the files, but it's too limited and too much of a PITA as a music player. I prefer Banshee and Rhythmbox to it.
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows?

Post by Jedinovice » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:06 am

Hoser Rob wrote:
Jedinovice wrote:... What's the issue with Office? Libreoffice runs a charm and is Office compatible. ...
Well it isn't 100% compatible and that's enough to justify Windows if you really need Office.
True as far as it goes but here's more to it than that. It depends on how complex the document is and I understand that the latest rendering of Libreoffice has improved compatibility drmatically. The toruble is that as son a Libreoffice catches up Microsoft change their file format. But there is also the WPS suite as well.

I generally find I can do everything in Libreoffice. Indeed, we encountered a bug in Office 2010. I would not read end of line markers correctly in Office 2007 files! We had to open the document in Libreoffice in Linux to format the document correctly!

Obviously it depends on what you are doing. If you are using Macros then you are done for. You are locked into Office. If you are using multimedia files in Powerpoint you're stuck. If you are using heavy duty spreadsheet - and I mean really heavy - then you stuck... for now. But Libreoffice is moving fast now having refactored the code. They are now building on features.

But most users don't fall into those catagories above. I actually find Libreoffice faster and easier than Office - hough I never, ever liked the Ribbon. Given what Instigator says are his needs I don't think he has a problem. And we're talking about his C70 netbook here, not his desktop.

In regards to games… I want to be fair to Linux. Steam is major leap forward and there are a LOT of games now and it's increasing by the day. I will grant that the ports are often bad. That's true. So, yes, if one a serious game player on a PC it's Windows or bust. But… at the same time Vulkan is appearing and promises to be a game changer.

But still, we're talking about a C70 laptop here! :D
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Instigator » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:50 am

Oh the netbook in essence is just a toy.
Useful for basic windows/Linux tasks and websites.

Office at the moment im using windows on desktop all I do is work reports on headed paper in word and excel for invoices and inventory management.

Guess its just a case of trying at the moment I have another battle with a usb that thinks it's a local disk.
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Jedinovice » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:56 am

Instigator wrote:Oh the netbook in essence is just a toy.
Useful for basic windows/Linux tasks and websites.

I am looking to resurrect my old n455 netbook.
You'll be stunned by what I have planned for it. :D
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Instigator » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:56 am

Wow you're on the ball this morning caught me editing lol

What's the plan?

ark.intel.com/m/products/49491/Intel-Atom-Processor-N455-512K-Cache-1_66-GHz#@product

That's worse than the c70 and the c70 is awful...

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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Jedinovice » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:17 am

Instigator wrote:Wow you're on the ball this morning caught me editing lol

What's the plan?
Wait and see. It depends on whether it can be repaired. It needs... specialost treatment.

ark.intel.com/m/products/49491/Intel-Atom-Processor-N455-512K-Cache-1_66-GHz#@product

That's worse than the c70 and the c70 is awful...
Clocks in slower than a 1.2GHz PIII. I know.
And yet... it will not be used as a toy.
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Instigator » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:27 am

What's the issue with it?

When I notice hardware issues as I seem to get a new one every week.....I test in windows and Linux to test if its a operating system problem like if 1 works and other doesn't.

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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Jedinovice » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:13 am

Instigator wrote:What's the issue with it?

When I notice hardware issues as I seem to get a new one every week.....I test in windows and Linux to test if its a operating system problem like if 1 works and other doesn't.
It's hardware. The poor machine has been worked to death. Saved my neck on many an occasion though.
I am seeing if the machine can be made roadworthy again. It's tricky because if I spend any money at all I spend more than the machine is worth. But, also.. I like the idea of taking a single core, minimal machine, and making it do the ;impossible.
I think I have found a way to square the circle at the right cost but I shall say no more for now. :)
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Instigator » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:26 am

well outside of going through the hell of a rebuild , netbooks seriously suck at taking apart to check if cpu is replaceable and clean inners.

All whats left is new internal drive and ram?

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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Jedinovice » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:49 am

Instigator wrote:well outside of going through the hell of a rebuild , netbooks seriously suck at taking apart to check if cpu is replaceable and clean inners.

All whats left is new internal drive and ram?
If this works it will be like a new machine or... it will be utterly bust.

It's worth the experiment. Shipping out for evaluation next week.

I'll say this tho... A single core netbook, tends to be used for real work out int he field.
The super i7, 16GB RAM, 4TB HD machines with super GPU's... are the machines used for games. Yet the netbook is called the toy.

How does that happen? :mrgreen:
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Instigator » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:01 am

I guess light and decent battery is it's selling point.

Ah see my netbook was a project too eBay 44 quid lol was broken wouldnt turn on got it up and running.
Never again though cmos replacement.....netbook never again ever.

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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Jedinovice » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:08 am

Instigator wrote:I guess light and decent battery is it's selling point.

Ah see my netbook was a project too eBay 44 quid lol was broken wouldnt turn on got it up and running.
Never again though cmos replacement.....netbook never again ever.
Well, it depends on what you need.
I actually like minimal tech and making it useful.

Besides I really on the move and really do need portibility and battery life. A desktop is useless to me now.
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Re: Mint KDE who needs windows? I do....

Post by Jedinovice » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:19 am

I missed out two words in my post! Not feeling well today.

If the repair goes well the netbook will be like a new machine...

I have edited the original post. Stoopid me.
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