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Debian 9 Stretch

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Debian 9 'Stretch' Linux has arrived
Debian, one of the main Linux distributions, has just released its latest major update.
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols for Linux and Open Source | June 19, 2017 -- 18:05 GMT (11:05 PDT) | Topic: Hewlett Packard Enterprise
i just downloaded a DVD -- "with the non-free stuff"
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Re: Debian 9 Stretch

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tried the "pure" xfce live, works great with my graphics card, runs quieter than the Nvidia driver on Mint 17.3 would you believe?
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Wait a bit before installing it. Pretty serious bug on the current release: https://fosspost.org/2017/06/20/debian- ... rking-fix/. Wait for new ISOs to be published.
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xenopeek wrote:Wait a bit before installing it. Pretty serious bug on the current release: https://fosspost.org/2017/06/20/debian- ... rking-fix/. Wait for new ISOs to be published.
a "False Flag" --eh?

seems like if there was a problem reading the CD you'd get some kind of data check message from ios. if a file is not found the proper procedure is to print the name of the missing file:

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myfile = fopen(input_file_name,"rt");

if (NULL == myfile)
{	printf("%s -- file not found.\n", input_file_name);
	return(error_code);	}
	
we run into these "False Flags" -- every once in a while -- and they throw us off track -- and can cause large losses of time. We have a Special Award for the guilty parties,---- ( tee hee )
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Soo how long before lmde3? I know little to nothing about straight debian. All I know is its a patience is a virtue kind of system :D
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There's no timetable for it yet.
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xenopeek wrote:Wait a bit before installing it. Pretty serious bug on the current release: https://fosspost.org/2017/06/20/debian- ... rking-fix/. Wait for new ISOs to be published.
The live ISO works absolutely great if you want to test the OS.

If you want to install, go with the net install, it works fine.
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So what you're saying is, download another ISO? :wink: I'll just wait for the LiveISO to be fixed and will download that anew.
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xenopeek wrote:Wait a bit before installing it. Pretty serious bug on the current release: https://fosspost.org/2017/06/20/debian- ... rking-fix/
And all this time I thought I'd just had a bad usb write for Debian 9 MATE.
I'm rather surprised this happened to Debian. Did they not test the live images? :shock:
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xenopeek wrote:Wait a bit before installing it. Pretty serious bug on the current release: https://fosspost.org/2017/06/20/debian- ... rking-fix/. Wait for new ISOs to be published.
There is a bug in the Packages files included on the live images,
causing the included Debian Installer code to fail with the error
"There was an error reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure it
is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the
integrity of your CD-ROM."
Update, 22 June, 00:07 AM GMT +3
Status: Fixed in 9.0.1

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The live gnome disc worked fine here. But the installer doesn't work.
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Lysander666 wrote:
xenopeek wrote:Wait a bit before installing it. Pretty serious bug on the current release: https://fosspost.org/2017/06/20/debian- ... rking-fix/. Wait for new ISOs to be published.
The live ISO works absolutely great if you want to test the OS.

If you want to install, go with the net install, it works fine.
Net install always works great. DVD1 is also good, and can save time as it has much of what you would get from the Internet.

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Fred Barclay wrote:
xenopeek wrote:Wait a bit before installing it. Pretty serious bug on the current release: https://fosspost.org/2017/06/20/debian- ... rking-fix/
And all this time I thought I'd just had a bad usb write for Debian 9 MATE.
I'm rather surprised this happened to Debian. Did they not test the live images? :shock:
this is what i'm talking about using the term "false flag". the error says "problem with cd" when it should say xxx.xxx.xxx -- file not found

i've run into several of these over the years..... one of the worst was "GLMI"

the app issued an error message stating xxxxx.dll -- not found

we checked -- a .dll with the name they were calling for was present of the machine. their support people had us move the file and re-install it repeatedly -- every time the same error.

the error should have stated: xxxxx.dll -- WRONG VERSION

the false flag caused a 24 hour outage on an important app.
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The CD rom not found error during install has been fixed in 9.0.1 however other issues were found such as.

-During installation you must leave ROOT password blank or you will not gain ROOT access once installed
-For me, at least I could not get gmail 2 step verification to work with thunderbird.
-The forums at http://forums.debian.net is not a friendly place to ask questions.

I might give Debian Mint a try.

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opale7000 wrote: -During installation you must leave ROOT password blank or you will not gain ROOT access once installed
Correct, the normal user is not automatically added to the sudo group if you provide a root password when installing Debian. That's the way Debian is set up though, not an issue - the installer even says so (though, if you're not familiar with Linux terminology, it could easily be confusing).
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-The forums at http://forums.debian.net is not a friendly place to ask questions.
It's a different atmosphere than here. They like people to have their facts in order, and I think we're quite a bit more tolerant of mistakes. On the other hand, in my personal experience they've been really nice if the person asking the question is willing to learn and admit mistakes.
I might give Debian Mint a try.
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Might have better luck getting support for Debian on the Reddit Debian forum.
https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/
The regular Debian Forum is filled with old guys yelling at you to the F---- off of their yard and RTFM :)
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opale7000 wrote: -The forums at http://forums.debian.net is not a friendly place to ask questions.
Fred Barclay wrote: It's a different atmosphere than here. They like people to have their facts in order, and I think we're quite a bit more tolerant of mistakes. On the other hand, in my personal experience they've been really nice if the person asking the question is willing to learn and admit mistakes.
Fred is on the money here. The difference between Mint forums and Debian forums is chalk and cheese in terms of tolerance. The Mint forums are much more relaxed, with a lot more incidental chatter, and the forum is highly patient with newbies since newbies are expected to come to the distro.

Debian requires a greater knowledge of Linux but also an understanding of its ethic. Newbies are welcome in the Debian forum as long as they show some commitment to having worked on their issue beforehand. The forums are not there for "how do I get Z from scratch" but "I read about Z, I tried X and Y to get it, what am I missing that didn't make Z work"? The surefire way to piss off anyone in the Debian forums is to come and ask basic questions such as how to install the OS, what the differences are between the stable distros, how to get proprietary drivers working etc etc, since there is so much out there on the topics already.
KBD47 wrote: I was thrown by root user years ago when I first used Debian. Probably not recommended but I always use the same password for both root and user
No, it's definitely not recommended.
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Re: Debian 9.0.1 Stretch

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I notice Distro Watch has a link to download debian-live-9.0.1-amd64-cinnamon.iso

should be fun to check out :D
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Re: Debian 9 Stretch

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hmmmmm ...

I'm writing this from the Debian 9.0.1 AMD 64 that I just now installed -- using a LIVE DVD

the install went off without a hitch but: during boot-up I noticed an error referencing RADEON --- my AMD integrated graphics.....

and when I get logged on, this:
Screenshot from 2017-06-28 17-19-05.png
and, unsurprisingly there is a hesistation in getting screen updates ( This is running in an AMD/APU configuration )

other than that it looks like fun to play with
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mike acker wrote:hmmmmm ...

I'm writing this from the Debian 9.0.1 AMD 64 that I just now installed -- using a LIVE DVD

the install went off without a hitch but: during boot-up I noticed an error referencing RADEON --- my AMD integrated graphics.....

and when I get logged on, this:

Screenshot from 2017-06-28 17-19-05.png

and, unsurprisingly there is a hesistation in getting screen updates ( This is running in an AMD/APU configuration )

other than that it looks like fun to play with
Without knowing which Radeon I can only say with mine I had to enable non-free repo and install firmware-linux-nonfree in Jessie and one of the Stretch release candidates.

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