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Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:34 pm
by linuxviolin

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:41 pm
by Pjotr
Right. Linux is much more secure than Windows, although it's not 100 % secure. Nothing is, on our imperfect planet earth.

Surely you didn't expect we get all of those security updates in Linux Mint (almost on a daily basis) just for fun, right? :mrgreen:

Just a reminder: watch out for spreading FUD about Linux. And don't assume that issues that are only important for servers, also have much (if any) practical relevance for desktop Linux. You are aware that Linux Mint is a desktop distro?

See this article that I've written about security in Linux Mint:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... t/security

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:04 pm
by Schultz
And . . . all those links are to trendmicro, which is a company selling stuff. So that needs to be taken for what it's worth (i.e., the more they scare people, the more they sell).

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:37 pm
by Pjotr
Schultz wrote:And . . . all those links are to trendmicro, which is a company selling stuff. So that needs to be taken for what it's worth (i.e., the more they scare people, the more they sell).
Well put. It's like a toilet cleaner manufacturer claiming that we need to use more toilet cleaner, or lack of hygiene will kill us all. :lol:

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:34 pm
by KBD47
Would be curious to know--does anyone here know anyone who ever got a virus with Linux? 6 years now and have never had a problem. I had viruses with Windows, father in law had a ton of Windows viruses. Everyone knows someone with Windows who had viruses--usually more than one (person and more than one virus).

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:02 pm
by DAMIEN1307
did anyone take note that trendmicro is talking about LINUX SERVERS here?...linux servers in major corporations and their web servers DO use some forms of anti-malware security mostly because though they may be MOSTLY immune to infection problems themselves, they serve up info to non-linux systems that CAN catch something that the linux system is already hardened against...to my knowledge, linux home desktops and laptops netbooks etc do not have these kind of concerns...DAMIEN

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:09 pm
by Moem
DAMIEN1307 wrote:did anyone take note that trendmicro is talking about LINUX SERVERS here?
Looking at the first reply: yes, I think someone did. :wink:

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:54 pm
by MintBean
Boy you love Trend Micro!

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:38 pm
by jimallyn
KBD47 wrote:Would be curious to know--does anyone here know anyone who ever got a virus with Linux?
I don't know of anyone. I have been using Linux for 15 years. During that time, none of my Linux computers have ever been infected with any virus or malware. Nor has the computer of any Linux user I know of. That would take in a lot of computers, since the entire 15 years that I have been using Linux, I have been quite active on Linux forums, much of that time as a Moderator or Administrator. If somebody had posted "My Linux computer is infected with a virus" on one of the forums, I almost certainly would have seen it. But I have seen nothing like that. I won't say that it can't happen, just that I have never seen it happen.

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:45 pm
by KBD47
jimallyn wrote: I don't know of anyone. I have been using Linux for 15 years. During that time, none of my Linux computers have ever been infected with any virus or malware. Nor has the computer of any Linux user I know of. That would take in a lot of computers, since the entire 15 years that I have been using Linux, I have been quite active on Linux forums, much of that time as a Moderator or Administrator. If somebody had posted "My Linux computer is infected with a virus" on one of the forums, I almost certainly would have seen it. But I have seen nothing like that. I won't say that it can't happen, just that I have never seen it happen.
That is what I figured. Yet these "Linux gets viruses too!" scares keep popping up with little substantial evidence of the fact :(

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 5:49 pm
by daveinuk
I'll stick with what I've got and chance it, but thanks for the advanced warning . . . . . . . . . . . . . ;)

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:11 pm
by revian
KBD47 wrote:Would be curious to know--does anyone here know anyone who ever got a virus with Linux? 6 years now and have never had a problem. I had viruses with Windows, father in law had a ton of Windows viruses. Everyone knows someone with Windows who had viruses--usually more than one (person and more than one virus).
There aren't any Linux viruses in the wild - given the way Linux is designed, it's a waste of time to devote resources to developing them.

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:16 pm
by revian
I've been using Linux since 2001 and I've never seen a computer virus. Over the years I have sat in IRC channels and support forums for various distros and have never heard from anyone who has actually seen a computer virus. I'm beginning to think that computer viruses are a myth that are used by antivirus distributors to scare people into spending money unnecessarily.

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:23 pm
by lexon
I have used a few Linux distros since 2003 and no issues.

If I get bored, I Google Linux security.
Once in a while a clueless user might "think" they found a virus and posting some FUD.

L

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:37 am
by sphyrth
linuxviolin wrote:Just a reminder to those who think Linux is immune and Windows just crap:
What are you talking about? Linux isn't immune. It's loaded with Malware.
As for Windows - it's not crap. It's very VERY secure. Quite immune to threats, in fact.

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:51 am
by revian
I just read the articles at those three links in the OP. Did you notice what was at the bottom of the second article? That's right, an advertisement for Trend Micro's Deep Security computer software. Yet another company spreading fear in an effort to justify the existence of their products.

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:37 am
by Hoser Rob
I think the OP is a good rejoinder to those who think that just because they don't get viruses in Linux think they aren't going to get hacked.

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:58 am
by Citizen229
Anything connected to the internet is unsecure, the only question is how much it is unsecured.

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:13 am
by Pjotr
Citizen229 wrote:Anything connected to the internet is unsecure, the only question is how much it is unsecured.
That's overstating it a bit, I think....

My motto: nothing is entirely secure, so strive for as much nothing as reasonably possible. :mrgreen:

Re: Linux is secure…right?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:00 pm
by SwanRider
Pjotr wrote:
Schultz wrote:And . . . all those links are to trendmicro, which is a company selling stuff. So that needs to be taken for what it's worth (i.e., the more they scare people, the more they sell).
Well put. It's like a toilet cleaner manufacturer claiming that we need to use more toilet cleaner, or lack of hygiene will kill us all. :lol:
Thanks after the day I've had I needed a laugh :lol: :lol: It seems to me that all those supporting the so called security issues are linking to security software companies - even through my lappy I can smell the bull shite - lets all hand our money over to those who really don't need and let's be honest with all the so called security software Windows still gets hacked each month - there are about as much use as a paper bag for carrying water IMHO