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Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Lucap » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:56 am

https://hexus.net/tech/news/software/11 ... lease-390/
After Release 390, Nvidia will no longer release drivers for 32-bit operating systems1 for any GPU architecture. Later driver release versions will not operate, nor install, on 32-bit operating systems. Driver enhancements, driver optimizations, and operating system features in driver versions after Release 390 will not be incorporated back into Release 390 or earlier versions. This impacts the following operating systems:

Microsoft Windows 7
Microsoft Windows 8/8.1
Microsoft Windows 10
Linux
FreeBSD

Nvidia intends to support critical driver security fixes until January 2019.
Can't imagine many people would still be plugging in a high end card into a 32 bit machine anyway.

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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Pjotr » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:32 am

The 32-bit ecosystem is crumbling.... And in my opinion, it's about time that it dies, too. :mrgreen:

Now when is that 128-bit architecture coming?
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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Lucap » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:45 am

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= ... .04-32-bit

Certainly looks that way as Ubuntu Server is now going to drop 32 bit support the same as 17.10 recently done.

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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by jimallyn » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:48 pm

Pjotr wrote:Now when is that 128-bit architecture coming?
128 bit? That is so 2003. (Transmeta released a 256 bit processor in October, 2003, but ceased to exist as of 2009.)
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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by BG405 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 10:07 am

jimallyn wrote:128 bit? That is so 2003. (Transmeta released a 256 bit processor in October, 2003, but ceased to exist as of 2009.)
256 bit in 2003? :shock: Should be good for number-crunching programs (such as video transcoding, animation, graphics etc.) but I suspect would be rather inefficient resource-wise with most of the software we use even today.

32-bit is certainly becoming a niche market. There will likely be uses for it for years to come, I have several still useful machines which are 32-bit only. Not sure if the mobo in my old Athlon system will take a 64-bit CPU, but then I'm not sure what graphics card is in there now. Don't think I have the Nvidia any more.
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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by jimallyn » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:18 pm

BG405 wrote:
jimallyn wrote:128 bit? That is so 2003. (Transmeta released a 256 bit processor in October, 2003, but ceased to exist as of 2009.)
256 bit in 2003? :shock: Should be good for number-crunching programs (such as video transcoding, animation, graphics etc.) but I suspect would be rather inefficient resource-wise with most of the software we use even today.
Probably should have put a winking smiley with that. I'm not really sure how useful 64 bit is versus 32 bit for word processing, or web browsing, or much else that we do today. I'm not familiar with modern CPU instruction sets, but back when I was familiar with instruction sets, it was mostly 8 bit and 16 bit. What advantage is a 64 bit processor for dealing with an 8 bit character or a 16 bit character? Can a 64 bit CPU load in 8 bytes and do a different operation on all 8 of them all in one instruction cycle? I don't know.
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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Hoser Rob » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:28 am

BG405 wrote:... 32-bit is certainly becoming a niche market. ...
Isn't that what Spinal Tap said? IOW, their audience was becoming more 'selective'.

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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by BG405 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:44 pm

Hoser Rob wrote:Isn't that what Spinal Tap said? IOW, their audience was becoming more 'selective'.
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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Portreve » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:52 pm

I've actually been affected by the 32 bit to 64 bit migration. I have a G4-based Mac mini which I use as a headless home file server, and the latest version of Debian I'll ever be able to put on it is I believe 8.6. Starting with 9.0, you have to have a 64 bit G4 CPU, which would put it about an iteration or so of hardware out of bounds for me.

Mind you, I'm not exactly crying as such about it, but nevertheless it is something that's impacting me.

I remember the 16 to 32 bit migration, and got to see some of the effects of that back in the day with some of the 68K Macs I've owned. It wasn't really all that big of a deal, in terms of it causing problems, but it was nice to finally have a "32 bit clean" Mac.
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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Lucap » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:53 pm

Portreve wrote:I remember the 16 to 32 bit migration
Is anyone really that old? :D :wink:

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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by mr_raider » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:43 pm

Lucap wrote:
Portreve wrote:I remember the 16 to 32 bit migration
Is anyone really that old? :D :wink:
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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Portreve » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:35 pm

Lucap wrote:
Portreve wrote:I remember the 16 to 32 bit migration
Is anyone really that old? :D :wink:
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As a sort of side note, I'm old enough to remember how cool it was to be able to plug as many as six graphics cards into a Mac II, IIx, or IIfx, or as many as three into a Mac IIcx or IIci and have six (or three, respectively) monitors with your desktop spanned across them all.

In 1987¹.

Yeah.

Suck it, Microsoft.

¹ The Macintosh II came out in 1987. The others came out in the succeeding three years.
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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Lucap » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:11 am

I think there was talk awhile back about Mac's also dropping 32 bit support , not sure where BSD stands.

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Re: Nvidia to abandon 32-bit OS drivers.

Post by Hoser Rob » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:38 am

BG405 wrote:
Hoser Rob wrote:Isn't that what Spinal Tap said? IOW, their audience was becoming more 'selective'.
A selective audience is still an audience, though! 8) When I've found those RAM modules there'll be a 350MHz Pentium machine running an old version of Mint, not on-line obviously but will be used for archival purposes & accessing legacy hardware. ...
People who have old hardware tend to think that the purpose of Linux is to resurrect said old hardware. Developers generally don't have old hardware and they don't think that's what Linux is for.

And since there isn't the vast number of open source devs out there many Linuxers seem to think there is ... in fact there aren't nearly enough ... they have to prioritize. So 32 bit Linux is going to become extinct, soon.

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