20 Years To Go: The Year 2038 Problem

[JoeFootball]

Noticed we just passed the 20 year mark yesterday.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem

Joe

[altair4]

And only 7982 years to go until the Y10K problem.

[JoeFootball]

And even if the 64-bit solution is implemented, the overall problem doesn't just disappear...

"At 15:30:08 UTC on Sunday, 4 December 292,277,026,596, 64-bit versions of the Unix time stamp would cease to work, as it will overflow the largest value that can be held in a signed 64-bit number. This is nearly 22 times the estimated current age of the universe, which is 1.37×10^10 years (13.7 billion)."

Joe

[Pjotr]

We're all going to die!

[tenfoot]

Gee! I'll be 107 and still have 4 years to go, because ever since I read The Hobbit I've wanted to hold on until I'm one dub one

[michael louwe]

All computers should be running 64bit OS by 2038 = Problem Solved.

[all41]

Perhaps even 128 bit will exist and we will all go beyond

[Pierre]

All computers should be running 64bit OS by 2038 = Problem Solved.

if there is sort of resemblance to Todays Computer(s):
- then they should have surpassed the 128bit level, and therefore should be running 256bits.

[catweazel]

Perhaps even 128 bit will exist and we will all go beyond

I'm fairly certain there will be 32bit PC users running an ancient 32bit linux in 2038 and asking why dates no longer work.

[all41]

All computers should be running 64bit OS by 2038 = Problem Solved.

if there is sort of resemblance to Todays Computer(s):
- then they should have surpassed the 128bit level, and therefore should be running 256bits.

And then there is quantum

[Pierre]

Perhaps even 128 bit will exist and we will all go beyond

I'm fairly certain there will be 32bit PC users running an ancient 32bit linux in 2038 and asking why dates no longer work.

nah - - there will be some Die-hards, like myself, still running their First 8bit machine.

(( is your's still stored in some cupboard, too ))

[catweazel]

(( is your's still stored in some cupboard, too ))

lol - it was Intel 4004 with 640 bytes of RAM. There are no 4bit OSes today, though there are some two-bit ones

[all41]

Perhaps even 128 bit will exist and we will all go beyond

I'm fairly certain there will be 32bit PC users running an ancient 32bit linux in 2038 and asking why dates no longer work.

nah - - there will be some Die-hards, like myself, still running their First 8bit machine.

(( is your's still stored in some cupboard, too ))

commodore perhaps?

[michael louwe]

@ catweasel, .......

Perhaps even 128 bit will exist and we will all go beyond

I'm fairly certain there will be 32bit PC users running an ancient 32bit linux in 2038 and asking why dates no longer work.

Yes, agree. Then(= in 2038) we should refer the 32bit PC users to this thread.

Since 2012 and Win 8, nearly all new computers come with UEFI technology which requires 64bit OS. But such computers have backward-compatibility for Legacy BIOS technology = can still install 32bit OS.
... Intel has just announced that they will end support for Legacy BIOS compatibility(= no more CSM in UEFI-BIOS settings) by 2020. ... https://fossbytes.com/intel-end-legacy- ... 2020-uefi/ . I think some new Intel-based computers today have already removed Legacy BIOS compatibility support.
... So, by 2038, 99.9% of computers will be running at least 64bit OS.

[absque fenestris]

Perhaps even 128 bit will exist and we will all go beyond

I'm fairly certain there will be 32bit PC users running an ancient 32bit linux in 2038 and asking why dates no longer work.

With a bit of luck - Yes!
However, there is the question of who needs more luck: me or the machine?

[catweazel]

Perhaps even 128 bit will exist and we will all go beyond

I'm fairly certain there will be 32bit PC users running an ancient 32bit linux in 2038 and asking why dates no longer work.

With a bit of luck - Yes!
However, there is the question of who needs more luck: me or the machine?

Going by your forum nickname, you do. Tu es adhaesit in in fundamentum/vinariam? Ne subitis officia necessarium?

[absque fenestris]

Tu es adhaesit in in fundamentum/vinariam? Ne subitis officia necessarium?

Bonum vinum - hilari sunt cogitationes. Postulantes gratiam...

[catweazel]

Tu es adhaesit in in fundamentum/vinariam? Ne subitis officia necessarium?

Bonum vinum - hilari sunt cogitationes. Postulantes gratiam...

I learned at a very early age, 11, that I was good at latin. The teacher wrote "Cogitus ergo sum" on the blackboard. I got caned on the hands six times... after having rubbed out the g in cogitus

[absque fenestris]

I learned at a very early age, 11, that I was good at latin. The teacher wrote "Cogitus ergo sum" on the blackboard. I got caned on the hands six times... after having rubbed out the g in cogitus

At the age of 11 you knew what that word means..?



So - in this innocent age, no, not me! However, I was very interested in those 24-book encyclopaedias. Prefers the book with letter S.

[catweazel]

I learned at a very early age, 11, that I was good at latin. The teacher wrote "Cogitus ergo sum" on the blackboard. I got caned on the hands six times... after having rubbed out the g in cogitus

At the age of 11 you knew what that word means..?

Aye, lol ...