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Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by linux_rules » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:44 am

Hi,

I really miss the Firestarter firewall a lot. I like ufw/gufw but with Firestarter you have more control

and the interface was really nice.

What about you guys ? Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by BenTrabetere » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:20 pm

I can't say that I miss it because I never could get it to work in LM 17.x or LM 18.x, but really want to take Phatch for a test drive. Phatch is/was a batch processor for raster graphics, and the best I can figure it could do some of the things I do with Gimp and ImageMagick. I think development stopped in 2010 or so.

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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by MintBean » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:21 pm

Well it wasn't Linux and it wasn't open source, but it was free... if that qualified, WinAmp gets my vote. Would love to see a Linux version one day but likelihood is about nil.

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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by Pjotr » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:26 pm

The terminal-only application mp3gain....

For lossless normalization of the sound volume of mp3's. Luckily it can still be installed from the .deb installers which are present in Universe for Ubuntu 14.04, but for how long will they still be usable for the latest Ubuntu / Mint? :(
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by thx-1138 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:08 pm

Pjotr wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:26 pm
The terminal-only application mp3gain....

For lossless normalization of the sound volume of mp3's. Luckily it can still be installed from the .deb installers which are present in Universe for Ubuntu 14.04, but for how long will they still be usable for the latest Ubuntu / Mint? :(
...you could try building a static executable using the instructions here (i just did that successfully, just had to install libmpg123-dev first).
Not a complete solution, but the binary will continue working for as long as no huge changes appear in glibc (as far as i understand...)

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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by AndyMH » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:31 pm

+1 for WinAmp
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by tenfoot » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:24 pm

Way, way back in the 1980s when I was using an IBM compatible, my favourite application was Sidekick (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borland_Sidekick) and then I abandoned the PC when Microsoft Windows was released and went to the Acorn A5000.
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by phd21 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:43 pm

Hi linux_rules,

Interesting post...

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

Off the top of my head there is "FossaMail"
FossaMail - an excellent and fast Thunderbird email client clone.
https://www.fossamail.org/
BenTrabetere wrote:I can't say that I miss it because I never could get it to work in LM 17.x or LM 18.x, but really want to take Phatch for a test drive. Phatch is/was a batch processor for raster graphics, and the best I can figure it could do some of the things I do with Gimp and ImageMagick. I think development stopped in 2010 or so.
I have Phatch in my menus as Phatch Image Inspector and Phatch Batch processor, but I do not know how they work or If they work? They come up, but I cannot seem to add pics to them. Would "XnViewMP" help, it can do batch processing?
MintBean wrote: ... WinAmp gets my vote. Would love to see a Linux version one day but likelihood is about nil.
There are a few really good to great WinAmp Linux alternatives that can even use WinAmp skins: 1. Audacious, 2. Qmmp, and 3. Xmms, to name a few. There is a recent post on this too.
Any decent alternative to Winamp? - Linux Mint Forums
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=266843

Pjotr wrote: The terminal-only application mp3gain...
I really like the "wxMP3gain" a free front-end for the MP3gain - available as deb files or PPA (also has mp3gain files for newer Ubuntu and Linux Mint)
wxMP3gain download
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wxmp3gain/

"wxMP3gain" - My open source projects : Cristiano Nunes
https://launchpad.net/~cfgnunes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

This link has Linux Mint 18.x (Ubuntu Xenial) deb files or PPA for mp3gain and others
Audio Stuff : Martin Wimpress
https://launchpad.net/~flexiondotorg/+a ... untu/audio

Easymp3gain not working after new distro install - Linux Mint Forums
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by MintBean » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:15 pm

Thanks phd21. Unfortunately nothing on Linux supports anything other than the classic WinAmp skins. The music player is the one app where I like some bling, and nothing does it like WinAmp.

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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by Habitual » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:26 pm

tenfoot wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:24 pm
Way, way back in the 1980s when I was using an IBM compatible, my favourite application was Sidekick (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borland_Sidekick) and then I abandoned the PC when Microsoft Windows was released and went to the Acorn A5000.
I too loved this product.

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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by Spearmint2 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:35 pm

K3b is good, although from KDE, but I was always partial to CDBURNERXP when I used windows.
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by DAMIEN1307 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:04 pm

hi spearmint2...CDBURNERXP...that is a ditto too...lol...i burned my first linux iso with that program from my then existing windows 10 system...it worked flawlessly and i found it to be the easiest burner to use at that time from windows to burn iso...DAMIEN
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by Pjotr » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:24 pm

thx-1138 wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:08 pm
Pjotr wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:26 pm
The terminal-only application mp3gain....

For lossless normalization of the sound volume of mp3's. Luckily it can still be installed from the .deb installers which are present in Universe for Ubuntu 14.04, but for how long will they still be usable for the latest Ubuntu / Mint? :(
...you could try building a static executable using the instructions here (i just did that successfully, just had to install libmpg123-dev first).
Not a complete solution, but the binary will continue working for as long as no huge changes appear in glibc (as far as i understand...)
Looks interesting! Thanks. :)
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by BenTrabetere » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:53 pm

phd21 wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:43 pm
I have Phatch in my menus as Phatch Image Inspector and Phatch Batch processor, but I do not know how they work or If they work?
What got me interested in Phatch was a tutorial on using it to add a watermark to group of images. At the time I was still processing my photos with Photoshop, and anything that got me to a Linux-only workflow was a step in the right direction.

Now I add watermarks with darktable. From time to time I use the Gimp watermark brush I created. I also have added watermarks with ImageMagick, but my head always hurts afterwards.
They come up, but I cannot seem to add pics to them. Would "XnViewMP" help, it can do batch processing?
I have used XnViewMP to rename and convert files, but a year ago I switched to doing all of that the command line. It is faster.

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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by linux_rules » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:37 am

Just adding one more item.

I miss the old Noobs installer for the Raspberry Pi.

The old one included Raspbian and Libreelec but the new one only offers Raspbian

so I had to download an older version of Noobs to install Libreelec (media center solution).

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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by phd21 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:33 pm

Hi BenTrabetere,

FYI-1: Re: Phatch Batch Image processor -

* I found out how to make the Phatch applications work in Linux Mint 18.x (Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial). I still do not know how to use it yet, any tips? It looks like the Phatch applications can be installed from the Software Manager or Synaptic Package Manager (SPM) and other places.
Install - Phatch = PHoto & bATCH! see dependencies
http://photobatch.wikidot.com/install#toc14

* Link with fix - Bug #1567827 “on ubuntu 16.04, phatch freezes at startup”
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1567827

After installation, the "wxPil.py" file must be edited

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sudo xed /usr/share/phatch/phatch/lib/pyWx/wxPil.py
It took me a moment to figure out what the changes below in the quote meant, but I did.
for ex:
Lines 27, 30, 34 change "tostring" to "tobytes"
Lines 46, 50 change "fromstring" to "frombytes"
Save the file, and bingo the Phatch apps work. :)
* This code box has the corrected code for "wxPil.py"

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# Copyright (C) 2007-2009 www.stani.be
#
# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program.  If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/

# Follows PEP8

import Image
import wx


def pil_wxImage(image):
    if image.mode == 'P':
        image = image.convert('RGBA')
    if image.mode == 'RGBA':
        wx_image = wx.EmptyImage(*image.size)
        wx_image.SetData(image.convert("RGB").tobytes())
        wx_image.InitAlpha()
        wx_image.SetAlphaData(
            image.convert("RGBA").split()[-1].tobytes())
    else:
        wx_image = wx.EmptyImage(*image.size)
        new_image = image.convert('RGB')
        data = new_image.tobytes()
        wx_image.SetData(data)
    return wx_image


def pil_wxBitmap(image):
    return wx.BitmapFromImage(pil_wxImage(image))


def wxImage_pil(wx_image):
    size = wx_image.GetSize()
    image = Image.new('RGB', size)
    image.frombytes(wx_image.GetData())
    if wx_image.HasAlpha():
        alpha = Image.new('L', size)
        wx_alpha = wx_image.GetAlphaData()
        alpha.frombytes(wx_alpha)
        image = image.convert('RGBA')
        image.putalpha(alpha)
    return image


def wxBitmap_pil(wx_bitmap):
    return wxImage_pil(wx.ImageFromBitmap(wx_bitmap))
Pablo Vigo (pvigo) wrote: 27c27
< wx_image.SetData(image.convert("RGB").tostring())
---
> wx_image.SetData(image.convert("RGB").tobytes())
30c30
< image.convert("RGBA").split()[-1].tostring())
---
> image.convert("RGBA").split()[-1].tobytes())
34c34
< data = new_image.tostring()
---
> data = new_image.tobytes()
46c46
< image.fromstring(wx_image.GetData())
---
> image.frombytes(wx_image.GetData())
50c50
< alpha.fromstring(wx_alpha)
---
> alpha.frombytes(wx_alpha)

FYI-2: This PPA has a lot of image processing applications that can be installed using the PPA or from the deb files within this PPA.
Highly explosive! : Dariusz Duma
https://launchpad.net/%7Edhor/+archive/ ... &start=150

FYI-3: Because there are so many applications and programs written in the Python language, and I have an interest in learning them, I always install the "Python" version 2 and version 3 packages.

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sudo apt install python-all-dev python-wheel python-setuptools python-pip

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sudo apt install python3-all-dev python3-wheel python3-setuptools python3-pip


Hope this helps ...

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Phatch
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by Arch_Enemy » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:29 pm

Since I deal a lot with photos there are two things I miss.

The first one is GQview, although I have been able to keep it running. You have to install libcms, which is pretty much a standalone lib kind of like a .DLL. This make it work just fine. The renaming and handling capabilities are much better than what's in it's replacement geeqie.

The other is Kuickshow, another fast photoviewer that came with older versions of KDE. I have been unable to get it to work in the last 5 years; although I did have some luck in Arch, some of the functionality was gone. It isn't as easy to get working on a second monitor any more. The best thing about it was being able to reassign keystrokes, so if you had a special keyboard with extra keys you could assign the keys or buttons from functions you didn't use otherwise. For example, I had a keyboard with a zoom function using a rocker marked + and -, and I could either use it to increase or decrease the display size, or set it for next photo/last photo, much faster than the assigned keys or even a mouse.

If I were a programmer I'd take up the project, but as you can see from some of my "adventures" here it would probably leave me with a smoking computer... :shock:
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Post by Arch_Enemy » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:33 pm

The other thing I miss was XMMS in it's GUI iteration. It still remains as a cli program but for some reason they did away with the GUI. There are third-party GUIs but they aren't as good as the original. IIRC, the original could also use WinAMP skins as well.
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by lmuserx4849 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:07 am

linux_rules wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:44 am
Hi,

I really miss the Firestarter firewall a lot. I like ufw/gufw but with Firestarter you have more control

and the interface was really nice.

What about you guys ? Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?
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Re: Which discontinued project do you miss the most ?

Post by lsemmens » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:04 am

In some manner I miss DOS. Only because of the quick and simple Boot. You could be up and running using the program of your choice without all the add ons that a GUI requires. I DO NOT miss non GUI Word Processors though. The only app that I really miss is Clipper or dBase, Access did fill that gap but I really need to find something as easy to program in Linux.
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