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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by xenopeek » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm

All the software you listed is available on Ubuntu 18.04 from either the Universe or Multiverse repositories, aside from pulseeffects (but it's on no Ubuntu version, you need a PPA for it). These repositories are not enabled by default on Ubuntu and as you didn't enable them, yes the software in them would not be available for installation.

Ubuntu has four main repository:
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  • Universe - Community-maintained free and open-source software.
  • Restricted - Proprietary drivers for devices.
  • Multiverse - Software restricted by copyright or legal issues.
By default only Main and Restricted are enabled on the ISO and on new installations. The packages synaptic, openshot, cairo-dock and hdapsd come from the Universe repository and Steam obviously comes from the Multiverse repository. You can enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories through Ubuntu Software Center menu option for configuring repositories.
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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by Caltrop » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:03 pm

I do not like the NEW trend in Linux either.

I mentioned in another post on another forum my concern over 'flatpak'.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/question ... 175636086/

CSS is another bug of mine in Linux.
A 2,000 line CSS which cascades into another 2,000 line file that refers to another 2,000...
Just so I can find the line of code to change the color of my window borders.
AIEEE!

I used to see all kinds of programs for Linux but now fewer & fewer...
And that trend of Linux Programs turning into Windows Apps...

I see Linux becoming Windows 10, a complicated bloated pile of OS CRAP!

I was happy with Windows XP because places I worked used WinXP.
It was the best of the Micro$oft OS's.
Then I retired, then the WinXP laptop quit...
Now living in Linux and was loving it...

I am old school!
I grew up on DOS & Win3.1. Hated Win95&98. Then XP, ahhh...
I learned the old programming languages in HS & College.
Basic (on a teletype with paper tape!), Fortran, Cobol, Pascal & Modula, C, & Assembly.
I know of C++ but tend to stick with C.
I use Visual Basic for Excel and it still baffles.

I know I will get ranted at by Linux Lovers but I don't care.
I have pretty much turned off Linux Updates and am sticking with what works.
If I can't find a program I will write my own.
All you Object Oriented Hacks can !@#$%^&!!!

Go ahead Linux & become another Micro$oft Windows, I will NOT help!

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by Pjotr » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:06 pm

Caltrop wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:03 pm
I have pretty much turned off Linux Updates and am sticking with what works.
Good luck with that. :shock:
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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by sdibaja » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:35 pm

Pjotr wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:06 pm
Caltrop wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:03 pm
I have pretty much turned off Linux Updates and am sticking with what works.
Good luck with that. :shock:
How many of them are actually Security patches?

Seriously. Not the "level 1,2,3" but true security?

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by Pjotr » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:37 pm

sdibaja wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:35 pm
Pjotr wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:06 pm
Caltrop wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:03 pm
I have pretty much turned off Linux Updates and am sticking with what works.
Good luck with that. :shock:
How many of them are actually Security patches?

Seriously. Not the "level 1,2,3" but true security?
Why ask me, when Update Manager can answer that for you? :mrgreen:
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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by sdibaja » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:26 pm

Pjotr wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:37 pm
sdibaja wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:35 pm
Pjotr wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:06 pm

Good luck with that. :shock:
How many of them are actually Security patches?

Seriously. Not the "level 1,2,3" but true security?
Why ask me, when Update Manager can answer that for you? :mrgreen:
Because I am not a Mint user.

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by ud6 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:46 pm

What's interesting for me in this thread is that linux mint is more popular than Ubuntu, on which it is based, and originally I thought this is because of some aspects relating to ubuntu philosophy (ie not including non-free codecs by default) but it is apparent that much of it is due to things like unity and default packages and use of LTS version. And whilst it seems Ubuntu and Mint seem to provide choice, if Ubuntu makes increasingly unpopular choices and loses 'market share', will mint eventually seek to break away or will it just have to work increasingly hard to adjust the distro to deal with unpopular decisions within Ubuntu?

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by powerwagon75 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:06 am

sdibaja wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:35 pm
How many of them are actually Security patches?

Seriously. Not the "level 1,2,3" but true security?
As an example, we just got back home a couple days ago from being out for a week. 16 of 22 updates currently available are Security updates.
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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by smurphos » Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:14 am

powerwagon75 wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:06 am
sdibaja wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:35 pm
How many of them are actually Security patches?

Seriously. Not the "level 1,2,3" but true security?
As an example, we just got back home a couple days ago from being out for a week. 16 of 22 updates currently available are Security updates.
The Ubuntu Security Notices site can give a flavour of the frequency of actual security updates - i.e. package updates that fix / mitigate a known CVE...

https://usn.ubuntu.com/releases/ubuntu-18.04-lts/

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by Pjotr » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:33 am

sdibaja wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:26 pm
Pjotr wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:37 pm
sdibaja wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:35 pm


How many of them are actually Security patches?

Seriously. Not the "level 1,2,3" but true security?
Why ask me, when Update Manager can answer that for you? :mrgreen:
Because I am not a Mint user.
Then this should cover most of them:
https://usn.ubuntu.com/

So the answer is: quite a lot.

Not that their number is very important in itself; it's impact that counts.
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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by JerryF » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:41 am

sdibaja wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:26 pm
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Because I am not a Mint user.
I'm curious. You're not a Mint user and you belong to a Mint forum. :?
IF your problem has been solved, please edit your original post and add [SOLVED] to the beginning of the Subject Line. It helps other members.

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by sdibaja » Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:04 am

I was a Mint user from when they first provided a functional Mate desktop. I then used LMDE in the early days. But no Mint since May of last year.

I don't intend on being a butinski.

my best, Peter

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by JerryF » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:25 pm

sdibaja wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:04 am
I was a Mint user from when they first provided a functional Mate desktop. I then used LMDE in the early days. But no Mint since May of last year.

I don't intend on being a butinski.

my best, Peter
Ah, that makes sense (to me anyway).

Please don't feel that I was implying you were being a butinski. It's good to have people who engaged and like to contribute.

Jerry :D
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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by BG405 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:26 am

sdibaja wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:04 am
I don't intend on being a butinski.
:mrgreen:
Never heard that term before! Took me a while to figure out what it meant .. was still half asleep. :roll:

It's good that you still participate in these Forums; one of the major benefits of Mint but I'd still come here even if I had Mint only on "secondary" machines or in VMs.
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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by sdibaja » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:05 am

BG405 wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:26 am
sdibaja wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:04 am
I don't intend on being a butinski.
:mrgreen:
Never heard that term before! Took me a while to figure out what it meant .. was still half asleep. :roll:

It's good that you still participate in these Forums; one of the major benefits of Mint but I'd still come here even if I had Mint only on "secondary" machines or in VMs.
Thanks. I do have a chip on my shoulder, but I am trying to tone it down... Tell me if I get out of line.
I even try to make nice with my ex-wives these days

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by BG405 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:04 pm

sdibaja wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:05 am
I even try to make nice with my ex-wives these days
:shock: :mrgreen:
I haven't seen mine in years! Have been in touch via phone more recently though.

I can't see anything wrong with your posts either. If anyone can, Catweazel can, and he doesn't appear to have done either. :mrgreen:
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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by Pepi » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:22 pm

Wonder if the Admin would change my handle to butinski :mrgreen:

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by sdibaja » Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:44 pm

Pepi wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:22 pm
Wonder if the Admin would change my handle to butinski :mrgreen:
Dude, I have dibs on that!

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by Pepi » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:15 pm

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Worried about the future: Linux Mint 19

Post by lsemmens » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:16 pm

sdibaja wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:44 pm
Pepi wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:22 pm
Wonder if the Admin would change my handle to butinski :mrgreen:
Dude, I have dibs on that!
Haven't seen that term since I retired? Telecom tech?
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