Why Linux Package Maintainers Matter

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Why Linux Package Maintainers Matter

Post by KBD47 » Thu May 17, 2018 3:42 pm

Maintainers will disable features that they feel act in bad faith. Maintainers' greatest power is the ability to outright say "This is not good enough for our users" and consequently punish an ISV by either patching out the offensive part or in extreme cases removing the software from the repositories. ISVs know this and so don't act out. After 20 years of enforced good behavior this has lead to the idea of ISVs as "the benevolent upstream developer." This is why Linux doesn't have spyware, doesn't come with browser toolbars, doesn't bundle limited trials, doesn't nag you to purchase and doesn't pummel you with advertising.
It is simply not possible for abusive software to exist in Linux today. No maintainer would willingly release it. If a maintainer ever got a reputation for releasing abusive software they would be stripped of their privileges. Someone who cares steps up and becomes a maintainer instead. The system is aggressively self correcting. It has been like this for twenty years, so much to the point that few Linux ISVs even consider being unethical. And Linux users have a very hard time imagining that any ISV could ever act in bad faith.
http://kmkeen.com/maintainers-matter/

And why Snaps and Flatpacks can be bad news :(

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Re: Why Linux Package Maintainers Matter

Post by xenopeek » Thu May 17, 2018 4:32 pm

We discussed that article here 2 years ago: Why maintainers matter
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Re: Why Linux Package Maintainers Matter

Post by KBD47 » Thu May 17, 2018 5:09 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 4:32 pm
We discussed that article here 2 years ago: Why maintainers matter
Thanks! I missed that one. I figured it was relevant considering the recent malware issue in an Ubuntu Snap:
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/ubuntu-snap-malware

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Re: Why Linux Package Maintainers Matter

Post by xenopeek » Thu May 17, 2018 5:57 pm

That's being discussed here: An interesting article regarding some Ubuntu snap packages

Canonical have since responded: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/05/15/trus ... snap-store. Covering among other things what changes are upcoming to make the Snaps store safer.
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Re: Why Linux Package Maintainers Matter

Post by KBD47 » Thu May 17, 2018 7:02 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 5:57 pm
That's being discussed here: An interesting article regarding some Ubuntu snap packages

Canonical have since responded: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/05/15/trus ... snap-store. Covering among other things what changes are upcoming to make the Snaps store safer.
I guess great minds think alike :)

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Re: Why Linux Package Maintainers Matter

Post by Hoser Rob » Sun May 20, 2018 10:07 am

Note that this doesn't actually have anything to do with Mint package maintainers per se. That software comes from upstream, ie. ubuntu sources.

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Re: Why Linux Package Maintainers Matter

Post by xenopeek » Sun May 20, 2018 10:39 am

Hoser Rob wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 10:07 am
That software comes from upstream, ie. ubuntu sources.
No it doesn't. Flatpaks (as used on Linux Mint) and Snaps (as used on Ubuntu) is software from 3rd parties.
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