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Thunar menu icons and Gtk 3.22

Post by trytip » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:11 am

GTK+3.2230 has completely lost ability to show any decoration icons in menus . further more it is now affecting other cosmetic features in other applications that use gtk configs. thunar was updated today to 1.8 making toolbar icons inaccessible, it now uses ugly symbolics . custom actions are gone, xfce menu color can't be changed unless you edit theme

do yourself a favor and know only uncertainty awaits you when you reach the latest version. everything you think you know about how to customize your desktop will disappear
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Re: Help Installing GTK+3.2230

Post by catweazel » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:14 am

trytip wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:11 am
GTK+3.2230 has completely lost ability to show any decoration icons in menus . further more it is now affecting other cosmetic features in other applications that use gtk configs. thunar was updated today to 1.8 making toolbar icons inaccessible, it now uses ugly symbolics . custom actions are gone, xfce menu color can't be changed unless you edit theme

do yourself a favor and know only uncertainty awaits you when you reach the latest version. everything you think you know about how to customize your desktop will disappear
Not wishing to detract from the OP's needs, do you have a reference for that?
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Re: Help Installing GTK+3.2230

Post by JosephM » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:20 am

catweazel wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:14 am
trytip wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:11 am
GTK+3.2230 has completely lost ability to show any decoration icons in menus . further more it is now affecting other cosmetic features in other applications that use gtk configs. thunar was updated today to 1.8 making toolbar icons inaccessible, it now uses ugly symbolics . custom actions are gone, xfce menu color can't be changed unless you edit theme

do yourself a favor and know only uncertainty awaits you when you reach the latest version. everything you think you know about how to customize your desktop will disappear
Not wishing to detract from the OP's needs, do you have a reference for that?
Not a big XFCE user but the ability to show icons in menu items isn't gone. It is deprecated and will be gone in gtk4. It's actually been deprecated since like gtk3.10. The use of symbolic icons also isn't dictated by gtk version. That's a design by the developers.
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Re: Help Installing GTK+3.2230

Post by catweazel » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:25 am

JosephM wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:20 am
catweazel wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:14 am
trytip wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:11 am
GTK+3.2230 has completely lost ability to show any decoration icons in menus . further more it is now affecting other cosmetic features in other applications that use gtk configs. thunar was updated today to 1.8 making toolbar icons inaccessible, it now uses ugly symbolics . custom actions are gone, xfce menu color can't be changed unless you edit theme

do yourself a favor and know only uncertainty awaits you when you reach the latest version. everything you think you know about how to customize your desktop will disappear
Not wishing to detract from the OP's needs, do you have a reference for that?
Not a big XFCE user but the ability to show icons in menu items isn't gone. It is deprecated and will be gone in gtk4. It's actually been deprecated since like gtk3.10. The use of symbolic icons also isn't dictated by gtk version. That's a design by the developers.
Thanks, Joseph.
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Re: Help Installing GTK+3.2230

Post by Hoser Rob » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:48 am

oscarTheGrouch wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:05 am
Thank you for the reply.
"Linux Mint 19 comes with Gtk+ 3.22. So before you waste a lot of time, why do you want this Gtk version?"
I'm not stuck on using a certain version of GTK, just wanted to try and write some GUI programs using Netbeans and GTK looked like a good way to do that.
I am using Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'. Would I have to reinstall Linux to get to 19?
Thamks,
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Well, presumably if you know how to do computer programming you should know how to fix a completely broken OS, which is what you're going to end up with if you do this.

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Re: Help Installing GTK+3.2230

Post by trytip » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:40 pm

EDIT: i have a tendency to get off topic
JosephM wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:20 am
catweazel wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:14 am
Not wishing to detract from the OP's needs, do you have a reference for that?
Not a big XFCE user but the ability to show icons in menu items isn't gone. It is deprecated and will be gone in gtk4. It's actually been deprecated since like gtk3.10. The use of symbolic icons also isn't dictated by gtk version. That's a design by the developers.
either way it is designed it is no longer something a user can control. i can't capture all instances some i only noticed that either xfce is now using more GTK code or developers are going out of their way to make it act more like GTK
true, xfce still has button/menu icons but for a day custom actions were missing, archive plugin was bad maybe a product of upgrading and downgrading but i see things at least are now working still starting to look as if xfce is invaded by GTK and why are gnome devs afraid of icons? you mean in 2018 everything must be text mode menus? that's a step back in evolution.

leafpad with menu icons
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gedit 3.28.1 no menu icons (same for the rest of GTK apps
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thunar 1.6.15 home button and navigating arrows respect the icon theme
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thunar 1.8 no longer respecting my icon theme
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i used to be able to mix dark and light theme so i would have dark menus dark windows but light background. i can't seems to get that back editing any gtk settings. why developers change things around like this is baffle me. now i must add thunar and some dependencies to block updating and must downgrade again, but not sure how long before developers decide to change things again
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Re: Thunar menu icons and Gtk 3.22

Post by xenopeek » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:54 pm

Split and moved here as this is entirely unrelated to original topic, which was about getting started with Gtk development. Please in the future, don't hijack topics this way.
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