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FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by Pjotr » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:04 am

There appears to be an actively supported fork of the Linux-based Tomato firmware for routers, namely FreshTomato:
http://freshtomato.org/

The latest version is from February, 2019:
https://exotic.se/freshtomato-mips/v201 ... 1/K26RT-N/

This is its main developer:
https://exotic.se/

I'm very much interested, because Tomato has been my favourite router OS for years. Is there anybody who has already used FreshTomato and wishes to share his experiences?
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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by Pjotr » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:27 pm

OK, I've put FreshTomato 2019.1 on two older devices today, namely a Linksys E3200 and a Linksys E900. The installation went pretty smoothly, although I strongly recommend a 30-30-30 reset before and after, in order to clear the NVRAM thoroughly.

Negative issue: unlike the Tomato that it's built on, for older devices with a dedicated build, there's usually only one build of FreshTomato available. Which is mostly a "mega" version with all features (including the ones you don't need).

But my testing has, so far, been a smooth ride. All goes well....

I'm glad my router firmware is up to date again, and that it's security has thereby been improved. So: a big thank you to the FreshTomato devs! I've done a small donation to them as well. :)
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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by 8 ball » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:44 pm

I'm using Advanced Tomato which as I understand it is basically tomato with a modernised GUI. Can't t
ink of anything else I could possibly want it to do so I'll likely stick with it.

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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by Pjotr » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:48 pm

8 ball wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:44 pm
I'm using Advanced Tomato which as I understand it is basically tomato with a modernised GUI. Can't t
ink of anything else I could possibly want it to do so I'll likely stick with it.
Well, it looks like AdvancedTomato isn't up to date with its security fixes:
https://advancedtomato.com/faq#versioning-explained
and:
https://advancedtomato.com/faq#monthly-updates

Shibby has been abandoned, and that's its upstream....

That's why I'm very much interested in FreshTomato, because that Shibby fork does appear to be up to date on security.
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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by Neil Edmond » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:56 pm

Hey Pjotr, thanks for the heads up about the new FreshTomato firmware. I had not heard anything about it until seeing you post here. I've been using Tomato firmware on my router(s) for years, but always thought it might be nice to have more up-to-date firmware.

I'm not in any hurry to change my current set-up, but will likely give FreshTomato a try in the near future.

BTW, are there any new features? Or is this mainly a security patch?

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Post by Pjotr » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:59 pm

Neil Edmond wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:56 pm
are there any new features? Or is this mainly a security patch?
Well, you'd have to peruse all the changelogs since its inception for that (which I didn't). But my impression is that its main advantage is, that it's up to date on security....
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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by 8 ball » Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:24 pm

Yeah thanks for the heads-up, Pjotr. Looks like I'll need to upgrade.

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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by 8 ball » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:13 am

Unfortunately I don't see anything to suggest Fresh Tomato supports my Asus RT N66U.

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Post by Pjotr » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:56 am

8 ball wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:13 am
Unfortunately I don't see anything to suggest Fresh Tomato supports my Asus RT N66U.
Well, this looks promising:
https://exotic.se/freshtomato-mips/v201 ... 1/K26RT-N/

It seems there's a difference between the 64 K NVRAM version and the 32 K NVRAM version. Apparently you need the 32 K version:
https://www.nautsch.net/2012/11/22/asus ... 64k-nvram/

It's called N5x, although the folder says Nxx or N66U. This mini (with IPv6) seems a safe choice:
https://exotic.se/freshtomato-mips/v201 ... niIPv6.zip

It's what I would choose in your place, but don't hold me accountable if your router turns into a brick. :mrgreen:
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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by Pjotr » Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:59 am

In the meantime, I've successfully put FreshTomato 2019.1 on the following four routers:

Linksys E900 (dedicated build)
Linksys E3200 (dedicated build)
Linksys WRT54GL (generic K26 MIPS1 build)
Linksys WRT160N v3 (generic K26 MIPS2 build)
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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by 8 ball » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:09 pm

Thanks Pjotr, you're an absolute legend! For some reason I was convinced my router was ARM based. I will give that a try some time soon.

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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by Pjotr » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:51 am

Selecting the right Freshtomato build for your router hasn't been made easy. This might help to find the right build:
https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... html#ID2.1
(item 2.1)
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Re: FreshTomato: your experiences?

Post by Faust » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:39 am

Pjotr wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:51 am
Selecting the right Freshtomato build for your router hasn't been made easy. This might help to find the right build:
https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... html#ID2.1
(item 2.1)
Thanks for the " heads-up " on Freshtomato .
I had a spell of Router Mania a few years back , and I played with Tomato , dd-wrt and pfSense , on various bits of hardware
that were lying around , and I did manage to brick one , but it was junk anyway :)

I've been wanting a new router for some time so I'll check your link , before putting out the cash .
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