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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Timeshift did the trick. Wasn't really worried about getting rid of it, just pissed off that Microsoft feels they can treat Linux users who decide to take a look at Edge like they treat Windows users, by NOT providing a simple straightforward way to rid their system of MS junk once they've given it a whirl - especially those using a distro that doesn't provide Timeshift capabilities..
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Az4x4 wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:43 am
Timeshift did the trick. Wasn't really worried about getting rid of it, just pissed off that Microsoft feels they can treat Linux users who decide to take a look at Edge like they treat Windows users, by NOT providing a simple straightforward way to rid their system of MS junk once they've given it a whirl - especially those using a distro that doesn't provide Timeshift capabilities..
It's not a release ready browser package yet and is aimed at developers and early adopters only. Additionally you can't expect it to work like a normal deb from the distribution repositories because it's third party and Microsoft developers aren't experienced at packaging for Linux.
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Hmm.... I just went to the Edge icon in the menu (Cinnamon, Cinnamenu), right clicked and selected Remove. Then to the Update Manager, selected Additional Repositories, selected the Microsoft entry and again selected Remove. Done.
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I installed 'Edge' from a 'deb' file. I also have the option to uninstall it in the start menu. Synaptic also would work to uninstall PLUS I have the total log file on what was done to my system. Honestly, I like it and may use until Firefox gets their snit together
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Pepi wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:36 pm
I installed 'Edge' from a 'deb' file. I also have the option to uninstall it in the start menu. Synaptic also would work to uninstall PLUS I have the total log file on what was done to my system. Honestly, I like it and may use until Firefox gets their snit together
Since I discovered Brave I don't use anything else. IMO nothing's faster.
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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fstjohn wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:20 pm
Pepi wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:36 pm
I installed 'Edge' from a 'deb' file. I also have the option to uninstall it in the start menu. Synaptic also would work to uninstall PLUS I have the total log file on what was done to my system. Honestly, I like it and may use until Firefox gets their snit together
Since I discovered Brave I don't use anything else. IMO nothing's faster.
What he said. I keep Firefox as a backup but haven't had to use it in I-don't-know-when.
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Since I discovered Brave I don't use anything else. IMO nothing's faster.


What he said. I keep Firefox as a backup but haven't had to use it in I-don't-know-when.
I use Brave for Android, too. Just as fast. Can't comment on Ios.
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Since I discovered Brave I don't use anything else. IMO nothing's faster.
What he said.
For those of us either using Brave or any other Chromium based browser, You may wish to go into "FLAGS" in the browser address bar and reset the settings to either enable or disable as spelled out below.

Hope this is helpful.


Copy and paste the brave flags into your address bar up top:

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brave://flags
Then look for the following items and look how I either enabled or disabled them marked in RED

Smooth Scrolling
Animate smoothly when scrolling page content. – Windows, Linux, Chrome OS, Android
#smooth-scrolling
Enabled


Force Dark Mode for Web Contents
Automatically render all web contents using a dark theme. – Mac, Windows, Linux, Android
#enable-force-dark
Enabled


Happiness Tracking Surveys Demo
Enable showing Happiness Tracking Surveys Demo to users on Desktop – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS
#happiness-tracking-surveys-for-desktop-demo
Disabled


Happiness Tracking Surveys migration
Enable the latest version of Happiness Tracking Surveys. – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS
#happiness-tracking-surveys-for-desktop-migration
Disabled


Happiness Tracking Surveys for Settings
Enable showing Happiness Tracking Surveys for Settings to users on Desktop – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS
#happiness-tracking-surveys-for-desktop-settings
Disabled


Happiness Tracking Surveys for Privacy Settings
Enable showing Happiness Tracking Surveys for Privacy Settings to users on Desktop – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS
#happiness-tracking-surveys-for-desktop-settings-privacy
Disabled


Enable removing SameSite=None cookies
Enables UI on chrome://settings/siteData to remove all third-party cookies and site data. – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS
#enable-removing-all-third-party-cookies
Enabled


Heavy Ad Intervention
Unloads ads that use too many device resources. – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS, Android
#enable-heavy-ad-intervention
Enabled
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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then, there will be the Claim, that Edge is Better:
https://www.makeuseof.com/microsoft-edg ... x-in-dust/

aka Microsoft Is Edging Its Way Into the Number Two Spot . .
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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For those of us either using Brave or any other Chromium based browser, You may wish to go into "FLAGS" in the browser address bar and reset the settings to either enable or disable as spelled out below.

Hope this is helpful.
Thanks. I would add Extensions Toolbar Menu
Enable
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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From ps_mem.py, firefox vs google-chrome-stable vs ms-edge, each with the same 6 tabs opened; with umatrix and ublock disabled on chrome and firefox, no addons installed in edge.

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 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Program
...
650.4 MiB + 961.3 MiB =   1.6 GiB   msedge (33)
851.2 MiB +   1.1 GiB =   2.0 GiB   chrome (43)
886.1 MiB +   1.2 GiB =   2.1 GiB   firefox-bin (10)
Can't comment on the speed except they all seem about the same.

Edit: I like firefox the best, but to have an alternate to it (in case it's dead or whatever), I fooled around with brave and ended up (re)installing vivaldi because it's the only one with useful additions/modifications (esp. the sidebar) to chrome, and dis-installing edge, chrome and brave.
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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I got curious and did a little web search...
FYI,
DAMIEN1307 wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm


Enable removing SameSite=None cookies
Enables UI on chrome://settings/siteData to remove all third-party cookies and site data. – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS
#enable-removing-all-third-party-cookies
Enabled

chromestatus.com/feature


Reject insecure SameSite=None cookies
Network / Connectivity

Deprecate and remove the use of cookies with the SameSite=None attribute but without the Secure attribute. Any cookie that requests SameSite=None but is not marked Secure will be rejected.

This feature is available as of Chrome 76 by enabling the cookies-without-same-site-must-be-secure flag.

This feature will be rolled out gradually to Stable users starting July 14, 2020. See https://www.chromium.org/updates/same-site for full timeline and more details.
Motivation

Cookies delivered over plaintext channels may be cataloged or modified by network attackers. Requiring secure transport for cookies intended for cross-site usage reduces this risk, and encourages entities that produce embeddable content to migrate to HTTPS.


The use of non-Secure cookies facilitates pervasive monitoring, a widespread attack on users’ privacy. This change will mitigate the risks presented by pervasive monitoring by curtailing the use of non-Secure third-party cookies. Third-party cookies are widely used for tracking and may contain sensitive data that pertains to user identity. Cookies with SameSite=None are specifically marked for use in third-party contexts. By requiring SameSite=None cookies to be Secure, users are protected by default from attacks on their identifying data that may compromise their privacy.


In addition, non-secure embeds are a risk to users’ privacy and security. The use of non-secure embeds degrades users’ security and user experience on first-party sites by hampering first-party upgrades to secure transport because of limitations imposed on mixed content. The use of HTTPS protects users and sites, and the presence of mixed embedded content downgrades its security benefits. Requiring Secure for SameSite=None cookies will increase the security of the web by encouraging embeddable content producers to migrate to HTTPS.
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Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:21 pm

Heavy Ad Intervention
Unloads ads that use too many device resources. – Mac, Windows, Linux, Chrome OS, Android
#enable-heavy-ad-intervention
Enabled
developers.google.com/web/updates/2020/05/heavy-ad

Ads that consume a disproportionate amount of resources on a device negatively impact the user’s experience—from the obvious effects of degrading performance to less visible consequences such as draining the battery or eating up bandwidth allowances. These ads range from the actively malicious, such as cryptocurrency miners, through to genuine content with inadvertent bugs or performance issues.
Heavy Ad criteria

An ad is considered heavy if the user has not interacted with it (for example, has not tapped or clicked it) and it meets any of the following criteria:

Uses the main thread for more than 60 seconds in total
Uses the main thread for more than 15 seconds in any 30 second window
Uses more than 4 megabytes of network bandwidth

All resources used by any descendant iframes of the ad frame count against the limits for intervening on that ad. It’s important to note that the main thread time limits are not the same as elapsed time since loading the ad. The limits are on how long the CPU takes to execute the ad's code.
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Heavy ad intervention is good, it kills quite a few resource hogging adverts while letting the rest demanding ones that help fund the websites through. I've had that flag enabled ever since it was added to Chrome.
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Well, I've been testing Microsoft Edge for Linux a bit, and it's pretty good. Can't see any advantage over Chrome / Chromium, though (not surprisingly, as it's based on Chromium).

Nevertheless, it's always handy to have a spare web browser or two. And it's of course rather amusing in itself, to have Edge in my Linux system. :mrgreen:
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Re: Microsoft Edge Dev now available for linux

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AZgl1500 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:18 am
I don't trust anything from Microsoft, and I deleted the Edge browser from my Win10 SSD on this laptop.

I run Mint 99.98% of the time anyway, but I do follow what MS is doing....
have too, my daughter is using Win10 simply because of one reason,
MS ACCESS is so proprietary, that no one else can work with it.

her business has a huge ACCESS database.
There are programs which can convert Access to MySQL.
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Well if Edge is based on Chrome you will probably get these benefits too? https://security.googleblog.com/2020...d-more-in.html

Beats me why Google and Microsoft have any users. :roll:

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Well if Edge is based on Chrome you will probably get these benefits too? https://security.googleblog.com/2020...d-more-in.html
Beats me why Google and Microsoft have any users. :roll:
Count me out.
Was that blog site supposed to show me something, Its blank for me...does that mean that using Brave browser along with my own "tweaks" have me successfully "de-googled"???...LOL...DAMIEN
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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Yep...works now...lol...DAMIEN
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Re: MS Edge for Linux

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I have all that kind of "google" garbage turned off anyways in favour of my own remedies...lol...DAMIEN
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