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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage

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all41 wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:03 am
You can disable flatpak updates in your Startup Applications.
For Mint updates look in your Update Manager toolbar Edit/Preferences/Automation.
If you are using youtube-dl you can enter:
youtube-dl -F <url> to see the data length.
This example video test:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
is 5:14 seconds duration and watching in 480p used 29.4 mb here.

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$ youtube-dl -F https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
[youtube] LXb3EKWsInQ: Downloading webpage
[info] Available formats for LXb3EKWsInQ:
format code  extension  resolution note
249          webm       audio only tiny   57k , opus @ 50k (48000Hz), 1.89MiB
250          webm       audio only tiny   75k , opus @ 70k (48000Hz), 2.53MiB
140          m4a        audio only tiny  130k , m4a_dash container, mp4a.40.2@128k (44100Hz), 4.84MiB
251          webm       audio only tiny  148k , opus @160k (48000Hz), 4.96MiB
394          mp4        256x144    144p HDR   88k , av01.0.00M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0, 30fps, video only, 2.34MiB
278          webm       256x144    144p   97k , webm container, vp9, 30fps, video only, 3.38MiB
160          mp4        256x144    144p  111k , avc1.4d400c, 30fps, video only, 2.87MiB
395          mp4        426x240    240p HDR  191k , av01.0.00M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0, 30fps, video only, 4.33MiB
242          webm       426x240    240p  233k , vp9, 30fps, video only, 6.89MiB
330          webm       256x144    144p60 HDR  243k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 7.96MiB
133          mp4        426x240    240p  245k , avc1.4d4015, 30fps, video only, 5.86MiB
396          mp4        640x360    360p HDR  403k , av01.0.01M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0, 30fps, video only, 8.67MiB
243          webm       640x360    360p  435k , vp9, 30fps, video only, 12.85MiB
331          webm       426x240    240p60 HDR  504k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 16.65MiB
134          mp4        640x360    360p  633k , avc1.4d401e, 30fps, video only, 15.49MiB
397          mp4        854x480    480p HDR  735k , av01.0.04M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0, 30fps, video only, 15.80MiB
244          webm       854x480    480p  857k , vp9, 30fps, video only, 23.18MiB
332          webm       640x360    360p60 HDR 1059k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 35.72MiB
135          mp4        854x480    480p 1496k , avc1.4d401f, 30fps, video only, 30.03MiB
398          mp4        1280x720   720p60 HDR 1552k , av01.0.08M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0, 60fps, video only, 35.98MiB
247          webm       1280x720   720p 1697k , vp9, 30fps, video only, 46.97MiB
333          webm       854x480    480p60 HDR 1988k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 69.11MiB
399          mp4        1920x1080  1080p60 HDR 2683k , av01.0.09M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0, 60fps, video only, 65.43MiB
302          webm       1280x720   720p60 2742k , vp9, 60fps, video only, 76.27MiB
136          mp4        1280x720   720p 3220k , avc1.4d401f, 30fps, video only, 57.62MiB
298          mp4        1280x720   720p60 3483k , avc1.4d4020, 60fps, video only, 92.61MiB
334          webm       1280x720   720p60 HDR 4524k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 162.28MiB
303          webm       1920x1080  1080p60 5018k , vp9, 60fps, video only, 134.10MiB
299          mp4        1920x1080  1080p60 5794k , avc1.64002a, 60fps, video only, 163.70MiB
335          webm       1920x1080  1080p60 HDR 6920k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 252.07MiB
400          mp4        2560x1440  1440p60 HDR 8626k , av01.0.12M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0, 60fps, video only, 223.85MiB
308          webm       2560x1440  1440p60 13357k , vp9, 60fps, video only, 388.12MiB
336          webm       2560x1440  1440p60 HDR 16917k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 607.18MiB
401          mp4        3840x2160  2160p60 HDR 18167k , av01.0.13M.10.0.110.09.16.09.0, 60fps, video only, 460.07MiB
315          webm       3840x2160  2160p60 26568k , vp9, 60fps, video only, 956.39MiB
337          webm       3840x2160  2160p60 HDR 30646k , vp9.2, 60fps, video only, 1.05GiB
18           mp4        640x360    360p  655k , avc1.42001E, 30fps, mp4a.40.2@ 96k (44100Hz), 24.53MiB
22           mp4        1280x720   720p 1669k , avc1.64001F, 30fps, mp4a.40.2@192k (44100Hz) (best)
How could I set my browser/youtube to load only mp4 videos not webm?
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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage

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ZyadMustafa wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:27 am
well, I hate updates, do you have any ideas about how to disable every single program to update? and I manually update what I want and what I agree on it to update, please
all41 told you how to disable the automatic application of updates, but you also asked how to update only what you want. Here is how:
  • If you want to prevent a given program from being updated in the future, in MintUpdate right-click on the proposed update and select "Ignore". Proposed updates to that program will no longer appear in the list. If, some day, you change your mind, just go into Edit >> Preferences >> Blacklist to remove the program's name.
  • If you want to skip one update of a given program but not blacklist it, just uncheck the box on the left side of the line before you click on "Install Updates". If there are a lot of proposed updates, you may want to start by clicking on the "Clear" button (first button on the left of the toolbar) to de-deselect everything, and then proceed to select all the ones you do want to allow.
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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage

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I'm not sure if this helps or not but I use the Enhancer for YouTube extension in my browser to help limit data usage while watching videos. (I have a very limited bandwidth internet connection) I have everything at default in the extension except I have the automatically remove ads option checked and automatically play videos set to 360p.
I just watched a 5:14 cooking video and only used:

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                      rx      /      tx      /     total    /   estimated
 enp2s0f0: Not enough data available yet.
 wlp3s0:
       2020-11     18.01 MiB  /  874.04 KiB  /   18.86 MiB  /   27.19 MiB
         today     18.01 MiB  /  874.04 KiB  /   18.86 MiB  /   62.43 MiB
My usage for the video appears to be well within the usage chart posted by JoeFootball earlier in this thread.

I am using vnstat for my network monitoring. It is very configurable terminal based monitoring software.

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apt install vnstat
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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage

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ZyadMustafa wrote: I noticed that when I use my pc my data usage (Host/Internet company can show total usage ) is too much than normal so That I started to explore why,
first Installed that applets and opened my browser to see my regular use, First day I didn't believe the number the program say ( it was so huge)
I said let's give it another chance and let's see tomorrow and it was also a big number
I said let's see If this is normal maybe It's because that's my first time to notice my data usage I am confused -maybe-
Does your ISP (internet host) offer a website that shows your real-time data usage? If so, does it match the application that you're using?
ZyadMustafa wrote: I opened my phone and repeated the same things I did that day (opened same videos I tried to make it easy to notice so I choose youtube cause other websites maybe it does not have the same data usage on phone like pc but videos are hard to change, you know what I mean? )
and resalt was that my pc is a monster compared to my phone
I understand.
ZyadMustafa wrote: I tried to download the -same- videos to see if it's bigger on my pc browser that's why Its take that amount of data
the result was: nope, videos were not different, the problem is in another thing
When you say that you're downloading the videos to compare the size on the PC and phone, how are you doing this? I ask because if it's a "video downloader" app that converts the final product to MP4 (or otherwise), then this could be different than the raw video stream that you watch, and thus not be a good measurement of data transfer while you're viewing.
ZyadMustafa wrote: -I know ads and other stuff is downloading while watching youtube and that's why it supposed to take a little bit more than video size but x3 This is too much
You're correct that there's other incidental data being downloaded, as well as uploaded too, but I do agree that it shouldn't warrant such a dicrepancy.
ZyadMustafa wrote: I am here to ask maybe I have something wrong with my settings, or maybe anybody can tell me how to make The ads load in lower quality ...etc Idk ofc there is a way to do it
I don't think it's any of your settings, but something else. Does this behavior also exist with Firefox? Do you have any other browser tabs open? Are all browser extensions disabled? Do you have any other applications open? If you were to boot a live session of Linux Mint, does the same behavior exist?
ZyadMustafa wrote: And sorry for my terrible English
Not a problem. I've seen worse from those who only speak English. :)
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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage

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ZyadMustafa wrote: How could I set my browser/youtube to load only mp4 videos not webm?
I don't know if that's an option, at least with YouTube. This is what I was speaking to about the live stream that you're viewing being compared to the result of what you have downloaded separately. They can be different.
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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage

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JoeFootball wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:21 pm

Does your ISP (internet host) offer a website that shows your real-time data usage? If so, does it match the application that you're using?

Nope it shows only the whole modem usage ( includes wifi and other plugged-in machines)
but If I shut off all other devices I can assume if it close to the number on the applets or not
and it's always so close so applets are not lie.

When you say that you're downloading the videos to compare the size on the PC and phone, how are you doing this? I ask because if it's a "video downloader" app that converts the final product to MP4 (or otherwise), then this could be different than the raw video stream that you watch, and thus not be a good measurement of data transfer while you're viewing.
I did it with "Free download manager"
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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage

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ZyadMustafa wrote: Nope it shows only the whole modem usage ( includes wifi and other plugged-in machines)
but If I shut off all other devices I can assume if it close to the number on the applets or not
and it's always so close so applets are not lie.
ok, that would give evidence to you interpreting the applet's results correctly.
ZyadMustafa wrote:I did it with "Free download manager"
I've never used "Free Download Manager", but I suspect the resulting download is a unified compressed version of the raw data stream. Therefore, I wouldn't use a download as a measure of what your data usage should be.

That said, I still agree that your PC's data usage is high. I also doubt that YouTube is serving your system more data than you're expecting, especially in such high quantities. That's why I suggested investigating the other options, such ensuring all apps, tabs, extensions, etc., are closed; trying another browser; trying a live session; etc.
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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage

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ZyadMustafa wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:39 am
all41 wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:03 am
How could I set my browser/youtube to load only mp4 videos not webm?
Referring to the example--if I wanted audio m4a only then I would enter:
youtube-dl -f140 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXb3EKWsInQ
This would download just that audio track. Notice that -f function is lower case this time,
as opposed to -F in the original format inquiry.
So substitute for -f<140> relative to the video/audio track you want.
Without the -f modifier youtube-dl defaults to the highest format offered--even 8k
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Re: How to reduce my Internet usage solved

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Summary:- you can't reduce your data usage but you can choose lower quality (for videos for example)
if you have a small data package then turn off updates, and install only important updates.
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this image can guide you to choose the best video quality for Your Internet package.
In the end, Thank you to everyone who replayed my topics and tries to help.
thank you all guys.
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