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software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby prcardi » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:16 pm

Hi,

I would like to be able to use a handheld scanner I own with my new Linux setup. I've read around and supposedly this should be possible. The directions I've found suggest that I get the Open Obex software. I see that available at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openobe ... =directory

I thought, however, that I was supposed to install all new programs through the software manager and Open Obex is not available in there. I wouldn't even know what to do with the Open Obex zip file after I've downloaded it. Can someone tell me 1) if it is ever okay to download software that is not found in the software manager, 2) how to use/install/setup (I'm not even sure what word to use) a zip file program, and 3) how you would know if your new hardware is setup (I'm from the Windows world where if it didn't install automatically I would go to the control panel).

Thank you
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Re: software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby dwasifar » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:49 pm

Openobex is in the repos. If you can't find it in Software Manager, you can install it from commandline. Just open a terminal window and type sudo apt-get install openobex-apps.

However, I found it in Software Manager just by typing "openobex" in the search box. So maybe it would be worth your while to try again there.

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Re: software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby prcardi » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:45 am

Ah I did not realize the space between Open and Obex would result in no findings. That's a good tip for me for the future; thank you. For my step 3, how does Linux Mint know that something new is plugged into it? Do I have to configure that manually somewhere?

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Re: software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby nomko » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:10 am

prcardi wrote:how does Linux Mint know that something new is plugged into it? Do I have to configure that manually somewhere?


As long the device is supported by the kernel, any Linux distro will recognize hardware automatically. Therefore you don't need to do anything.In some cases (i.e. exotic hardware) you have to find the drivers for it. Or do something else to get it working like installing some files (which can be found in synaptic) to get it working.

I would say, just plug it and see if Linux recognize it!

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Re: software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby prcardi » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:50 pm

It seems to fall into the category of exotic hardware.

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Re: software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby nomko » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:02 am

prcardi wrote:It seems to fall into the category of exotic hardware.

Thank you


Just curious, what brand/model is that handheld scanner? And when you connect it to the pc, does Mint sees that device?
Try this:
- open a terminal
- copy the following command in the terminal:

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lspci

- put the output here
- then copy the following command in the terminal:

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lsusb

- put the output here too

maybe we can help you further if we know what kind of device it is.

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Re: software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby prcardi » Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:37 pm

Thank you for your offer to pursue this further. I really would like the scanner to work. It is an Ectaco C-Pen. It is a generation before the wireless ones - a C-Pen 20 (the all black one) I think. As far as I can tell Linux does not recognize the scanner at all. I found a link that mentions that you should be able to set it up with Linux, but I've not been successful thus far in my attempts. The links: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/4421/1

the output for lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 662 Host (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] PCI-to-PCI bridge
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS966 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 59)
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 01)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 190 Ethernet Adapter (rev 01)
00:05.0 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SATA Controller / IDE mode (rev 02)
00:06.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] PCI-to-PCI bridge
00:07.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] PCI-to-PCI bridge
00:10.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 80)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1)

lsusb output

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 07b8:6001 AboCom Systems Inc 802.11bg
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:1004 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 970c/970cse
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 045e:00b0 Microsoft Corp. Digital Media Pro Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:0084 Microsoft Corp. Basic Optical Mouse
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0a93:0108 C Technologies AB

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Re: software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby nomko » Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:23 am

prcardi wrote:Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0a93:0108 C Technologies AB


This is a bit weird:
ID 0a93 is indeed the ID code for C-Technologies but the last number combination 0108 is not known.

Maybe this will work (i know this looks very unsmart and stupid but sometimes this do the trick):
Try installing the Windows driver under Linux. Mint has an option under System preferences or Sdministration to add Windows drivers. It might work.

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Re: software manager, zip files, and new hardware

Postby prcardi » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:00 pm

I'm willing to try. I do not, however, see a "system preferences" or "sdministration". I have a "system settings" but I did not see a Windows driver option in the "additional drivers" or "software sources" locations. Where should I go (or what should I install) to do as you suggest?

Thank you


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