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Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:40 pm
by GusGF
Not sure if I have a problem here but I believe I have :?:

When I hibernate Windows 7 and reboot I am not offered the option of the boot menu so I can boot into Linux Mint 13.

Is this something I have to accept or am I missing something?

Thanks

Re: Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:38 pm
by GusGF
Anybody got any ideas on this please?

Re: Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:23 am
by viking777
I don't use hibernate or suspend or anything like that myself, and never have, but my guess is that the behaviour you state is by design not an error. The expectation is that when you hibernate you want the same distro to start next time. If you don't, then shutdown, instead of hibernating and you will get the boot menu next time.

Re: Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:46 am
by AlbertP
Do you know if Windows boots in UEFI mode on your system?

Re: Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:02 pm
by GusGF
AlbertP wrote:Do you know if Windows boots in UEFI mode on your system?



No idea, I think it is still using the BIOS as my default boot system though if I install Win8 I am sure it would be UEFI capable.

All I know is when I boot up after a hibernate my PC simply resumes the last session and completely skips any boot screen or option to even go into the bios.

To be honest I am new to UEFI and don't really know what I am talking about.

Re: Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:16 am
by AlbertP
Not going into BIOS is quite normal. As a work-around, you can turn on the computer, and then immediately hold the power button to turn it off. Windows will still resume normally after doing this, and you get your normal boot back.

Please run sudo parted -l. It should show if your harddisk has an "msdos" or "gpt" (UEFI) partition table.

Re: Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:23 pm
by GusGF

Code: Select all

$  sudo parted -l
[sudo] password for xxxxx:
Model: ATA SAMSUNG HM321HI (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 320GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags
 1      1049kB  52.4GB  52.4GB  primary   ntfs            boot
 2      52.4GB  52.9GB  500MB   primary   ext4
 3      52.9GB  177GB   124GB   extended
 5      52.9GB  72.9GB  20.0GB  logical   ext4
 6      72.9GB  173GB   100GB   logical   ext4
 7      173GB   177GB   3999MB  logical   linux-swap(v1)
 4      177GB   282GB   105GB   primary   ntfs



I Think what might be happening is the Windows bootloader which is in the MBR is clocking there is a hibernated Windows 7 session present and is booting that up straight away and not even giving GRUB which is in the /boot partition a chance to fire up i.e. completely bypassing it!! I didn't figure this out by myself but I did a bit of googling :) Problem is I am not sure how you put GRUB before the Windows 7 bootloader. I presume I would need to somehow move GRUB to the MBR?!

Did a wee test and hibernated Mint and rebooted and got the Win7 bootloader followed by GRUB and got back into my Mint session no problem.

Can anyone tell me what to do or point to a tutorial that novice like me can use?

Thanks

Re: Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:51 am
by AlbertP
Grub is installed into the MBR by default, unless you choose a partition instead of a disk as bootloader location in the installer. You probably did that, and used BCD to get Grub loaded anyway. Right?

You can install Grub again using this tutorial: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/245
Please choose to install it on /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda2: then its bootsector will be put into MBR.
It seems however that you're having a /boot partition. That will make it slightly more complicated. You'll have to mount /boot instead of /, and use --boot-directory instead of --root-directory when doing grub-install.

Re: Windows 7 Hibernate query

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:10 pm
by GusGF
AlbertP wrote:Grub is installed into the MBR by default, unless you choose a partition instead of a disk as bootloader location in the installer. You probably did that, and used BCD to get Grub loaded anyway. Right?

You can install Grub again using this tutorial: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/245
Please choose to install it on /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda2: then its bootsector will be put into MBR.
It seems however that you're having a /boot partition. That will make it slightly more complicated. You'll have to mount /boot instead of /, and use --boot-directory instead of --root-directory when doing grub-install.



I have a feeling I am going to have to go away and do some research on this to understand what the hell I am doing. I am sure you are right and it makes sense what you say but I need to understand what I'm doing here. I am sure I'll be back to you, but hopefully having sorted it out :)