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linux mint slower that xp in the same computer

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ok so i try linux mint but it looks more slow that xp, i most use my computer for browse the internet but with linux i cant do much my computer gets hot or gets stuck or both but with xp is more smooth so my question is that if there is a os better that xp that i can install in my computer to mess with or make linux work better? o and the only thing that changes is the hard disk the xp one it has 80gb and the mint one has 160gb. My compu specs are:
hp pavillion dv1000 notebook
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intel pentium m 725
dothan 90nm technology
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512mb single channel ddr 333 c166mhz
motherboard:
quanta 3087 (u1) 52°c
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intel mobiel intel 915 gm16ms, 910 hml express chipset family (hp)
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Do not even try to run any Cinnamon Mint edition: your computer is close to the minimum to even run any modern Linux desktop distro. Try LM16 Mate or LM16 XFCE or wait for the incoming LM17 (either MATE or XFCE, too).
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What eanfrid said. Any Mint will eat up most of the machine just getting started. Linux Puppy is a modern distribution that keeps within the limits of an XP-Era machine, but it's like owning a horse instead of riding a motor cycle.
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Or try a Lxde distro :
wattOS http://www.planetwatt.com/
Lubuntu http://lubuntu.net/
Debian http://debian.org
Not Lxde but very lightweight CrunchBang http://crunchbang.org/about
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the only thing that changes is the hard disk the xp one it has 80gb and the mint one has 160gb.
This appeared to happen when I switched to Mint, but it was because my hard drive was partitioned into 2 smaller drives, C: and D:. When I did a clean install of Mint, I removed the existing partition set up and created a new one.

You might also re-check your memory using Mint under System Tools > System Monitor > System. Mint says mine's less than Windows did. I was told they calculate it differently: Windows tells you the total, Linux the amount free. Checking the free memory on the different distros other ppl recommended when running from a live usb might let you find the one that will allow your computer to run its fastest. I'm not sure on that as I'm a newb, but it might work. :)
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thank you for the answers, i will try lm16 and i see what happens, i will update when is finish
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Of all your hardware specs, what's really holding you back is the 512MB of RAM. If you're serious about running any modern OS like Mint, you might consider upgrading your RAM to >1GB (depending on the particular module you need, this shouldn't cost that much).

The reason I say this is that my Toshiba R200 is an XP-era machine whose specs are only slightly better than yours:
1) Intel Pentium M 753 Dothan
2) 1.25GB RAM
3) 32GB Kingspec SSD
4) Intel Mobile 915GMS Express graphics

Yet, it runs Mint 16 Cinnamon pretty darn well. Granted, it's no blazer, but it runs Cinnamon at a clip that is quite usable. Just some food for thought.
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My ASUS Z53E (2007 model) has 2000MB RAM and runs 16 MATE way faster than it ran XP, although it was designed for Vista.
Would seem your extremely limited RAM is your problem, but try MATE. It's a very slimmed-down version, and might work.
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yeah i know that the ram is low but were i live i cant get one because they not fabric it any more and i dont have ways to buy it in internet apart i just want a os that runs more smooth that xp
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BannedProfile wrote:yeah i know that the ram is low but were i live i cant get one because they not fabric it any more and i dont have ways to buy it in internet apart i just want a os that runs more smooth that xp

Well, I have a Compaq Presario, Pentium 4, 2.4G, single core, now 11+ yr-old.
WinXP still ran OK.. because it has a legacy ati graphic , which helps a lot on HD video playing.

What worked better in this old box?
Debian xfce.... idling RAM use 110M,
this is the link that has iso with non-free firmware, so you can run live to check your hardware.
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimag ... so-hybrid/

antiX- JWM ---idling RAM use 80M,
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=antix

Some other that run very fast on it:
semplice--openbox, but this track sid, not recommended for you
SliTaz... this run extremely fast on USB flash.. all run in RAM
http://www.slitaz.org/en/

porteus--- run very fast on USB flash.. run in live mode, this is designed to run in Live mode!
you can install to hard disk also. but run in Live mode give you a chance to evaluate without making any change to your hard disk that has WinXP.
http://www.porteus.org/
you can build the iso according to the selection on their website..a nice method :mrgreen:
http://build.porteus.org/
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with only half meg of ram i would consider one of the lighter distro's Peppermint is one i use on low spec machines [like my acer zg5 i am currently using]
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This may or may not have been mentioned earlier in the thread, but with your RAM limitations, you might give Puppy Linux or DSL (Damn Small Linux) a try.
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I'll add my two cents to others, who have rightly pointed out the problem is a low powered machine with little RAM. I'd guess even XP runs adequately but not great, as it does on my Dell 866MHz 512K RAM backup oldie. My experience is there is a serious difference in the demands of different "desktop environments" as follows:

- KDE is even more demanding than Windows 7
- Cinnamon and MATE are just about the same as Windows 7 and too much for an old machine
- XFCE and LXDE are even faster than XP on the same equipment.

I'd suggest experimenting with Mint XFCE or Lubuntu (Ubuntu on LXDE) with a Persistent Live USB (suggest 8gb thumb drive). The persistent Live install will let you save settings and experiment and learn for several weeks, to give the system a real workout with your peripheral devices and preferences. Any install will run faster and better from a hard drive so the hard "test" on the USB will give confidence that you'll be happy with a serious final installation.

I've looked at various other "lightweight" distros but don't like the cartoony look of most of them - it's a matter of taste. Mint XFCE and Lubuntu are pretty refined look and feel, are well supported on the Ubuntu / Mint support forums, and have large repositories of available software.
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ok i install lm 16 xfce an it looks that it runs fine i will look ways to make it run better, thanks for the help
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- KDE is even more demanding than Windows 7
When will people stop spreading this FUD on KDE. :| The defaults are demanding, but it can be configured to be just as light as XFCE or similar. Something that can't be said on GNOME 3, Unity or Cinnamon.

But even then you want a RAM upgrade - web browsers eat tons of it.
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Previous1 wrote:
- KDE is even more demanding than Windows 7
When will people stop spreading this FUD on KDE. :| The defaults are demanding, but it can be configured to be just as light as XFCE or similar. Something that can't be said on GNOME 3, Unity or Cinnamon.

But even then you want a RAM upgrade - web browsers eat tons of it.
Here's KDE on my Win7 NetBook,after running all day.
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A64+ 3000, KDE 4.11, Nepomuk et al:

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RAM use is slightly higher than with XFCE (300mb idle) or Openbox (200 mb), but else the same. And again, browsers consume far more.
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Yes, I'm running all the eye candy, an audiobook in Amarok and Chromium. Was cleaning up some snapshots with GIMP, today, so there is probably some bleed from running it also.
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