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[Solved] How to Restore & Install Updates You Have Ignored?

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Regarding updates, one day this past week, I noticed a whole list of them & as I am completely new to Linux & this machine too, I was not sure what to do, and I have dial up; so, I decided to wait until I could get to some place that had wireless. But a few days later I noticed that one of the updates had disappeared and then when I hit refresh, they all disappeared and were replaced with this update, called, "mint-upgrade-info," and something about a new version of mint update.

When I then did an on line search it said something about upgrading to 17.2, and that you did not need all those updates if you were doing that & that to upgrade you pressed refresh & installed the new update manager in order to upgrade. But as I did not want to upgrade I added this update to "ignored." Then later, someone else who has Mint told me that I need to install the new update manager, which would then provide new updates, one of which is an upgrade, which I would then not select if I do not want it. And so now, how do I get the update manager update that is now listed in ignored? I don't see any way to retrieve it.
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Re: How to Restore and Install Updates You Have Ignored?

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1. Click on Update manager-Click on Edit -Preferences -Go to tab Ignored updates and add or remove the updates you want. Good Luck!
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Hello, StitchInTime.

My advice will be:
  1. Do as advised by dirtyernie and remove all entries from the "Ignored Updates" tabs for the moment. - You should not add anything here, unless you fully understand the implications.
  2. Please, take the time to read the chapter "Update your system and your applications", pp. 39-43, in the "Official Linux Mint User Guide". - Doing so should give a good understanding of how the Linux Mint Update Manager works and of how to use it.
About updates to mintUpdate itself:
Whenever there is a mintUpdate (Update Manager) software update available, mintUpdate will only offer this update. It insists on updating itself before going back to normal update business and present the complete list of all other available software updates.
The idea behind is simple: Making sure that you will always use the most recent mintUpdate version when updating your system.

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Re: How to Restore and Install Updates You Have Ignored?

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Thank you for your prompt replies. Unfortunately, this does not solve the problem. Please see below. (I apologize if my response seems repetitive, but your responses suggest that I have not adequately communicated the nature of the problem.)
dirtyernie wrote:1. Click on Update manager-Click on Edit -Preferences -Go to tab Ignored updates and add or remove the updates you want. Good Luck!
As I said in my post, the new update is already in the ignored slot and I need to put it back in the updates window so that I can install it. So, I don't want to remove it, because I need to install it. Otherwise, I will not ever be able to receive any further updates. How do I get it out of there?
karlchen wrote:My advice will be:
  1. Do as advised by dirtyernie and remove all entries from the "Ignored Updates" tabs for the moment. - You should not add anything here, unless you fully understand the implications.
If I remove it, I will not be able to install the new update manager and will not receive any more updates.
karlchen wrote:[*]Please, take the time to read the chapter "Update your system and your applications", pp. 39-43, in the "Official Linux Mint User Guide". - Doing so should give a good understanding of how the Linux Mint Update Manager works and of how to use it.[/list]
As far as I can see, there is nothing in the manual for, Xfce 17.1, which is the version that I have, about how to restore an update that has been ignored, which is the reason I am asking the question here.
karlchen wrote:About updates to mintUpdate itself:
Whenever there is a mintUpdate (Update Manager) software update available, mintUpdate will only offer this update. It insists on updating itself before going back to normal update business and present the complete list of all other available software updates.
But it can't update itself because I moved it to the ignore section. That's the problem. How do I get it out of there or restore it to the list of available updates so that I can install it?
karlchen wrote:The idea behind is simple: Making sure that you will always use the most recent mintUpdate version when updating your system.
Again, that's the problem: I cannot install it, because I have moved it into the ignore section, which brings us back to my question, which is how to get it back on the list of available updates so that I can install it?
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Hopefully, this will help to clarify things further. If I open a terminal and type:
sudo apt-get update
I get a huge list of updates that are available, 16 of which appear to be relevant to my system, but if I open update manager and hit refresh, I get nothing, as, as I said I don't have the latest update manager, because I moved it to ignore; so, I'm stuck until I get it back. How do I get it so that I can do the updates?
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Okay, I did some more searching, and I found this:
Most recent updates in Mint Main PPA (Rebecca)
Date Package Version
2015-07-23 16:08:35 UTC mint-upgrade-info 1.0.3
2015-07-21 10:08:16 UTC virtualbox-nonfree 5.0
2015-07-21 10:08:16 UTC mintupdate 4.9.2
2015-07-21 10:08:16 UTC mint-upgrade-info 1.0.2
2015-06-27 12:08:01 UTC mintupdate 4.9.0

Now, checked my version, and I already have mintpdate 4.9.2
In ignored, it says "mint-upgrade-info" and so, I think that's what I need, but how do I install that?
Here's the page:
http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/mi ... grade-info
But I am not sure what I am supposed to do here, and I want make sure I don't mess this up again...
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You might bypass Update Manager and apply all updates by means of the terminal:

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
This would probably end the impasse. The only disadvantage is, that doing so will also install updates that Update Manager would have classified as level 4 or 5, which means that you run a slightly elevated risk of breakage.
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Okay, when I click to install, I get the message that it's already installed, but when I click on the update update manager icon, I get the message, "a new version of the update manager is available!" But I can't install it, because it's not on the list! In fact, as I said, there is nothing on the list (although, as I said earlier, 16 items show up in terminal.)
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Pjotr wrote:You might bypass Update Manager and apply all updates by means of the terminal:

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
This would probably end the impasse. The only disadvantage is, that doing so will also install updates that Update Manager would have classified as level 4 or 5, which means that you run a slightly elevated risk of breakage.
I did consider that possibility, but given my level of ignorance and inexperience that could be disastrous. The latest version of the update manager that I have seen so far, says it's for 17.2. Could someone who has 17.1, who has updated their update manager, but not upgraded to 17.2, please tell me what version of the update manager they have. That way, maybe I could look it up and install it. Thanks.

Edit: I wonder what would happen if I uninstalled update manager and reinstalled it?
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For a risk assessment of updating by the terminal in your particular case, please generate an overview of your system like this:
- launch a terminal window and make it full screen, to avoid chopped lines;
- copy/paste this command into the terminal:

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inxi -Fxz
(if you type: the letter F is a capital letter)

Press Enter.

Copy/paste the output in your next message.
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System: Host: cnd64320sl Kernel: 3.13.0-37-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.2)
Desktop: Xfce 4.11.8 (Gtk 2.24.23) Distro: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca
Machine: System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: HP Compaq nc6400 (RA266AA#ABA) version: F.05
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30AC version: KBC Version 56.33
Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: 68YCD Ver. F.05 date: 08/09/2006
CPU: Dual core Intel CPU T2500 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (nx sse sse2 sse3 vmx) bmips: 7979.62
Clock Speeds: 1: 1994.906 MHz 2: 1994.906 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV515/M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300] bus-ID: 01:00.0
X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1280x800@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV515 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-37-generic
Network: Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5753M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express driver: tg3 ver: 3.134 bus-ID: 08:00.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection driver: iwl3945 ver: in-tree:s bus-ID: 10:00.0
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (5.9% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: HTS541080G9SA00 size: 80.0GB
Partition: ID: / size: 20G used: 4.1G (23%) fs: ext4 ID: /boot size: 2.0G used: 47M (3%) fs: ext2
ID: /home size: 49G used: 272M (1%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 3.22GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
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OK, low risk....

Your AMD video chipset is still running on the open source driver, so for this particular operation that's good. Furthermore, your wireless chipset is an Intel, so that means that there are no wireless problems to be expected either.

No guarantees of course, but in your place I wouldn't hesitate to do it.
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[Solved] How to Restore and Install Updates You Have Ignored

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Thank you for that. That's very helpful.

Meanwhile, I think I may have solved my original problem. Here's what I did. I went here:
http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/mi ... grade-info (mint-upgrade-info 1.0.3, i.e., the latest version)
I clicked on: All arch deb package.
I clicked on: install (in the window that popped up).
After the download was completed I was informed that it was already installed, but when I went into update manager and clicked: refresh, I then got a list of 26 updates to install (including the ones that had previously disappeared).

So, based on you have told me, I take it, it should probably be safe to install all 26. Is that right?
Just to be sure, all of them except for two are level 2 & 3, and I gather from my reading that 2s & 3s are usually safe.
Here are the two level 5 entries:
Linux Kernel headers for development
Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
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Re: [Solved]How to Restore and Install Updates You Have Igno

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Hello, StitchInTime.

The first thing which you should have done was clearing the ignored update list, as dirtyearnie had told you.
Next you should have clicked the [Refresh] button inside the update manager.
Further you should have accepted the new updates and clicked [Install].

But the most important thing would have been clearing the ignore list. Doing so would have been the first step of solving your problem.

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Example:
  • Update Manager presents a Firefox update to me.
  • I put the term firefox in the ignore list.
  • From now on Update Manager will no longer any Firefox update me.
  • I remove the term firefox from the ingore list.
    By doing so I do not remove Firefox, nor do I remove Firefox from any list of available updates. The opposite is true. I stop ignoring the Firefox updates. I.e. I will see them again and be able to install them.
  • From now on Update Manager will display Firefox updates again and offer them for installation.
I hope this little example is sufficient to make clear that everything which you explain in this post is incorrect and based on a complete misunderstanding.

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You should have simply followed dirtyearnie's piece of advice and cleared your Update Manager ignore list. Would have spared you a lot of headache and hassle.

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Re: [Solved]How to Restore and Install Updates You Have Igno

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I don't think that would have worked in this instance, as it was already installed (or so I was informed) but it wasn't working for some reason.
karlchen wrote:I hope this little example is sufficient to make clear that everything which you explain in this post is incorrect and based on a complete misunderstanding.
If you think that, then I believe that you have misunderstood my post. But that's okay, no harm done. :)

In any case, problem solved, I think. :)

Thank you everyone for all your help! :mrgreen:
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Re: How to Restore and Install Updates You Have Ignored?

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I tried to update I got:

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W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/shadow/login_4.1.5.1-1ubuntu9.1_i386.deb
  
W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/libapt-pkg4.12_1.0.1ubuntu2.9_i386.deb

(synaptic:2422): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_hide: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

[then I went back and removed the ignored file]

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W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extra.linuxmint.com rebecca Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.191 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linrunner/tlp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/Release.gpg  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/partner/i18n/Translation-en_CA  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.191 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/partner/i18n/Translation-en  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.191 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/i18n/Translation-en_CA  Connection failed [IP: 10.1.92.2 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/main/i18n/Translation-en  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.24 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_CA  Connection failed [IP: 10.1.92.2 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/restricted/i18n/Translation-en  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Connection failed [IP: 10.1.92.2 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/partner/binary-i386/Packages  Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.191 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/i18n/Translation-en_CA  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/i18n/Translation-en  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linrunner/tlp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/i18n/Translation-en_CA  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linrunner/tlp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/i18n/Translation-en  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/libreoffice-4-4/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linrunner/tlp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linrunner/tlp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  Connection failed

W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages  Invalid file format

W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages  Invalid file format

W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Invalid file format

W: Failed to fetch http://extra.linuxmint.com/dists/rebecca/Release  

W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

[i closed window and got]

E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
Could not refresh list of updates


[tried to reinstall the update]
Software index is broken

This is a major failure of your software management system. Please check for broken packages with Synaptic Package Manager, check the file permissions and correctness of the file '/etc/apt/sources.list' and reload the software information with: 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install -f'.

Tried to load synamptic pkg mgr, got

E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_i18n_Translation-en
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
E: _cache->open() failed, please report.

[unable to load it]

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Re: How to Restore and Install Updates You Have Ignored?

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Hello, StichtIntime.

The most obvious error is this one:

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E: Problem with MergeList [...]
The solution for this problem can be found here e.g.: update manager is Xed out

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Thank you for that! :mrgreen:

Done! :)

As for the updates, I'm on dialup for now, and as stated elsewhere it's not working well on this machine, and so I will have to get back to you on that. (My earlier attempt was made from elsewhere and that place is closed until Tuesday, but I may have a look around for another place in the meantime.)
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StitchInTime wrote:I don't think that would have worked in this instance, as it was already installed (or so I was informed) but it wasn't working for some reason.
I don't understand why you keep saying others are wrong without trying, when they provide you the right answer from the beginning. :?
StitchInTime wrote:If you think that, then I believe that you have misunderstood my post. But that's okay, no harm done. :)
I backup karlchen statement. There are several things that you have not correctly understood. This manual is perfectly applicable for LM 17.1 XFCE. I advise you to read it, it may help you in the future.
I also think that you should avoid placing updates in the ignore list.
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killer de bug wrote:
StitchInTime wrote:I don't think that would have worked in this instance, as it was already installed (or so I was informed) but it wasn't working for some reason.
I don't understand why you keep saying others are wrong without trying, when they provide you the right answer from the beginning. :?
Thank you for taking an interest, however, I don't know that it was the right answer. In any case, it's my machine, and so it's up to me to decide what to try and what not to try; I'm the one who suffers the consequences if others are wrong, not them.
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StitchInTime wrote:If you think that, then I believe that you have misunderstood my post. But that's okay, no harm done. :)
I backup karlchen statement. There are several things that you have not correctly understood. This manual is perfectly applicable for LM 17.1 XFCE. I advise you to read it, it may help you in the future.
I also think that you should avoid placing updates in the ignore list.
Unfortunately, nobody understands everything correctly. Great minds think alike; fools never differ. :wink: I have the manual for, LM 17.1 XFCE, have read it thoroughly and it does not contain anything relevant to my question. But as has been pointed out elsewhere, there is plenty more reading to do...
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