Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
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Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
(The following holds for all versions of Ubuntu, too, but I ask it here.)
Currently, I use my Mint 17.2 only 2-3 times a week to read my email and to do other every-day tasks such as doing bank transfers. All this takes no more than 5 minutes. Then I tell my Mint to go to sleep into hibernate mode or shut it down completely.
I have just observed that, in this way, I never get updates by the update manager. I set it a long time ago to update in a period of 3 days. So I have to click on the manger icon and tell it to look whether there are any updates (this means that I have to do some work of my own).
Why does the update system not get aware of the fact that the last time it ran was 17 days ago? It only starts counting from the boot/reanimate time.
Thank you in advance!
S.
Currently, I use my Mint 17.2 only 2-3 times a week to read my email and to do other every-day tasks such as doing bank transfers. All this takes no more than 5 minutes. Then I tell my Mint to go to sleep into hibernate mode or shut it down completely.
I have just observed that, in this way, I never get updates by the update manager. I set it a long time ago to update in a period of 3 days. So I have to click on the manger icon and tell it to look whether there are any updates (this means that I have to do some work of my own).
Why does the update system not get aware of the fact that the last time it ran was 17 days ago? It only starts counting from the boot/reanimate time.
Thank you in advance!
S.
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
Automatic updates don't happen in Linux, that's a Windows thing for people who aren't experienced computer users.
It is normally accepted that someone choosing to use Linux instead of Windows, knows what they're doing around computers and is not happy just to let the system take over. You are expected to do a manual update when it is convenient for you.
If you want your operating system to take over may I respectfully suggest that Linux is not for you?
It is normally accepted that someone choosing to use Linux instead of Windows, knows what they're doing around computers and is not happy just to let the system take over. You are expected to do a manual update when it is convenient for you.
If you want your operating system to take over may I respectfully suggest that Linux is not for you?
Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
The best place for feature suggestions is the Community Website (http://community.linuxmint.com/).
Create a login and then log in... then in My Place > My Ideas, click "Add a new idea" and type away. Then the Mint dev team and other community website members will see the suggestion, comment on the suggestion, and take appropriate action on the suggestion...
Good luck...
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Create a login and then log in... then in My Place > My Ideas, click "Add a new idea" and type away. Then the Mint dev team and other community website members will see the suggestion, comment on the suggestion, and take appropriate action on the suggestion...
Good luck...
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
I cannot create an account there, because a registration code is needed, and you only get it via the IRC chat channel. But nobody answers there, and there are only 7 members logged in currently.Reorx wrote:The best place for feature suggestions is the Community Website (http://community.linuxmint.com/).
I wonder whether you all do
Code: Select all
$ sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
Still logged in in #linuxmint-help with 5 other users, but no one gives ma an answer to my request of a registration code. So the Community Website will stay closed for me.
Greetings,
S.
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
This is indeed a problem in Mint, but thankfully it's easy to fix: you can set Update Manager to check for new updates at boot time. Like this:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... ew-updates
(item 2, left column)
That forces Mint to run "apt-get update" at each boot (not at wake-up from hibernation, though).
You might also make the available updates more prominent, because the "blue icon" is easily overlooked:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... -prominent
(item 3.8, right column)
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... ew-updates
(item 2, left column)
That forces Mint to run "apt-get update" at each boot (not at wake-up from hibernation, though).
You might also make the available updates more prominent, because the "blue icon" is easily overlooked:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... -prominent
(item 3.8, right column)
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
Thank you. This is a good answer in the Lunix community's spirit.Pjotr wrote:This is indeed a problem in Mint, but thankfully it's easy to fix: you can set Update Manager to check for new updates at boot time. Like this:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... ew-updates
(item 2, left column)
That forces Mint to run "apt-get update" at each boot (not at wake-up from hibernation, though).
I just wonder whether "apt-get update" in the rc.local scipt will make "the blue icon blue".
Because I use MATE, and your link refers to Cinammon, But there is luckily an "analogous site" for MATE with the same hint: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... -prominentYou might also make the available updates more prominent, because the "blue icon" is easily overlooked:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... -prominent
(item 3.8, right column)
I will try it and report...
Thank you!
Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
That's the way it works. If you place 3 days, then your system need to be running for 3 days before it checks updates.simplex wrote: I have just observed that, in this way, I never get updates by the update manager. I set it a long time ago to update in a period of 3 days. [...]
Why does the update system not get aware of the fact that the last time it ran was 17 days ago? It only starts counting from the boot/reanimate time.
Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
Usually all you have to say in the chat room issimplex wrote:I cannot create an account there, because a registration code is needed, and you only get it via the IRC chat channel. But nobody answers there, and there are only 7 members logged in currently.Reorx wrote:The best place for feature suggestions is the Community Website (http://community.linuxmint.com/).
The answer of turtlebay777 is offending and does not fit to Linux community style.
I wonder whether you all doevery day by hand or whether you have set the update interval to the smallest possible value (daily) and run your machines 24h/d. Then you get propositions for updates, just how the update manager should do. But what if you use your Mint only 5 minutes a day?Code: Select all
$ sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
Still logged in in #linuxmint-help with 5 other users, but no one gives ma an answer to my request of a registration code. So the Community Website will stay closed for me.
Greetings,
S.
I need a registration code
And the mintbot will send it
Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
Yes, you are absolutely right. I shall delete now my Mint partition and add the freed space to my Windows 7 partition with gparted booted from a live USB stick and created with the outstanding mkusb script, hoping that I am too unexperienced for what I do, and then I shall wait for my update of Win7 to Win10 to come.turtlebay777 wrote:If you want your operating system to take over may I respectfully suggest that Linux is not for you?
Linux is not made for me...
Thank you!
S.
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
Have you considered reducing the update interval to 3 minutes? If the length of a typical session is <5 minutes, the system would have enough time to check for updates before you ended the session.
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
I am in the chat room now with Xchat, since many minutes, said your magic words, but nothing happens...JeremyB wrote: Usually all you have to say in the chat room is
I need a registration code
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
Of course I have, but then, in a (not so often) longer session, after all 3 minutes Mint searches for updates, slowing my machine down. That is what the problem is all about!BenTrabetere wrote:Have you considered reducing the update interval to 3 minutes? If the length of a typical session is <5 minutes, the system would have enough time to check for updates before you ended the session.
Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
I don't see you there. What is your name? Are in #help channel?simplex wrote: I am in the chat room now with Xchat, since many minutes, said your magic words, but nothing happens...
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
The solution that I've described to you, should fix your problem.... Entirely, except for the hibernation wake-up.simplex wrote:Of course I have, but then, in a (not so often) longer session, after all 3 minutes Mint searches for updates, slowing my machine down. That is what the problem is all about!
I've set the interval for Update Manager at "once a day" on all of my machines, and although they never run longer than three hours or thereabouts, I never have to check for updates manually.
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
I do not see you there either I am in #linuxmint-help as user "ziegler".killer de bug wrote: I don't see you there. What is your name? Are in #help channel?
Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
You are not in the channel. That's why you can't receive a code. I don't know where you are connected, but it's not in Linuxmint-chat or linuxmint-help.simplex wrote:I do not see you there either I am in #linuxmint-help as user "ziegler".killer de bug wrote: I don't see you there. What is your name? Are in #help channel?
Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
Great write-up, Pjotr. Thanks!Pjotr wrote:
This is indeed a problem in Mint, but thankfully it's easy to fix: you can set Update Manager to check for new updates at boot time. Like this:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... ew-updates
(item 2, left column)
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EDIT: (writing this one day later)
It works like a charm! Shortly after boot-up, I noticed there was an update (for Firefox).
Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
It appears that it is no longer working. Tonight I booted into Mint, and about 15-20 minutes later I opened Update Manager and clicked Refresh, and then it showed that there were updates. What happened? I checked the rc.local file and it hasn't changed.
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Re: Software Update Manager should run after boot or wake-up
There's this possibility: the updates were just added to the Mint repo's in the 20 minutes *after* booting. It's a small chance, but it can happen....helloimustbegoing wrote:It appears that it is no longer working. Tonight I booted into Mint, and about 15-20 minutes later I opened Update Manager and clicked Refresh, and then it showed that there were updates. What happened? I checked the rc.local file and it hasn't changed.
Other possibility: due to the way Update Manager works, "my" tweak could cause the updates to show only "automatically" at the next boot: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 0#p1018443
(the message of Frankus333)
That would cause a relatively small delay as well. Small enough to be acceptable to me.
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