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Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:46 am
by atheistsunited
Hello all,

I have an old ( 2002) Asus machine (1.7ghz- 2gb memory) with windows xp installed. I use it once in a while and when we have guests( family/close friends), we let them use it. I am thinking of installing mint on it and keep windows XP, of-course. Could someone tell me which mint version would be ideal for this machine?

Also, please let me know the commands for the grub file so that I can set windows XP as a default OS when the system boots.

This machine has no WiFi, so for internet, we use the ethernet cable . Could someone explain how to set up internet manually while/after isntalling mint? - I am familiar with the windows set ups, but new to Linux.

Many thanks in advance,

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:28 am
by WharfRat
Either the Mate or XFCE desktop versions. I use and like the Mate version, It will make the transition easier.

For networking the connection should happen automatically for the ethernet cable connection.

For the default OS, post back here once you get Mint up and running.

Good luck :wink:

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:35 am
by atheistsunited
Thank you WharfRat, just to make sure I got you right, is this one you mentioned?
http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=206
pls let me know,

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:39 am
by WharfRat
That's the one. Now are you sure you have a dual core processor :?:

If not then you will have to install the 32 bit version.

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:43 am
by atheistsunited
Yes, it has dual core processor

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:45 am
by WharfRat
atheistsunited wrote:Yes, it has dual core processor
Then the MATE (64-bit) version is the one you want :wink:

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:54 am
by supertuxkart
I beg your pardon, which processor is it ?

I believe in 2002 dualcores were not in production.

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:52 am
by atheistsunited
it is Asus F3JC Intel core duo T2250 1.74ghz. I guess I wrote the year wrong, i think this model was released in 2006 :)

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:15 pm
by supertuxkart
The processor has a benchmark of 770, it's enough for Linux Mint Mate from version 17 on.
It works well, for normal purposes, on Atom 1.6 Ghz single core, dual threads with benchmark of about 500.

Before, you must try it in live, to see if in the kernel there are all drivers for your own hardware.

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:22 pm
by atheistsunited
Thank you supertuxkart

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:13 am
by atheistsunited
hello there, I am getting an error " this kernel requires an X86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. unable to boot"
Does it mean I should opt for 32 bit Mint? I have windows XP 64 already running on this machine and will be installing mint along with XP.
Thanks very much

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:32 am
by WharfRat
atheistsunited wrote:hello there, I am getting an error " this kernel requires an X86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. unable to boot"
Does it mean I should opt for 32 bit Mint? I have windows XP 64 already running on this machine and will be installing mint along with XP.
Thanks very much
I was suspect of the 64bit capability.

The message " this kernel requires an X86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. unable to boot" means you have a 32bit processor so the 32 bit Mint is the way to go..

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:59 am
by Mute Ant
Hidden out in the open it was...
http://ark.intel.com/products/27232/Int ... 33-MHz-FSB
Instruction Set : 32-bit
Perhaps XP downgraded itself to match the machine?

Warning Warning Warning : Ubuntu gparted included in Mint 17 has been found "incompetent" when it comes to resizing Microsoft file systems, both FAT32 and NTFS can (will) be permanently damaged. Please don't skip the back-up-your-unique-data-to-a-removable-drive step.

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:23 am
by atheistsunited
Mute Ant wrote: Warning Warning Warning : Ubuntu gparted included in Mint 17 has been found "incompetent" when it comes to resizing Microsoft file systems, both FAT32 and NTFS can (will) be permanently damaged. Please don't skip the back-up-your-unique-data-to-a-removable-drive step.
Thank you for this warning!

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:41 pm
by atheistsunited
On a lighter note, I am quite surprised that a 32 bit machine let me run 64bit windows OS for so many years without any problems! I don't use it so often but it never gave any problem. Actually with my other systems I have always faced hardware /software issues.

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:42 pm
by supertuxkart
A 64bit machine can run 32bit O.S.
A 32bit machine cannot run 64bit system.

You have to be little bit skilled with linux to correct some small problems.

It's better to backup all important data everytime you use a partition program, whatever the program or O.S. is.
In Windows you must start with scandisk, then defrag the system, backup your data ( better an image for example with True Image ) and resizing with a Windows partition program. From Vista on, there's an integrated tool for. That is for 32bit system with legacy MBR bios.

Beside, i used the Mint Mate 17 gparted to resize partition in Windows XP and Windows 7, nothing wrong happened.
But it is possible sometime, you cannot enter anymore the hidden OEM recovery partition or other troubles.

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:05 pm
by atheistsunited
"A 32bit machine cannot run 64bit system" Supertuxkart, does it mean that I have a 64bit machine? then why this kernel requires an X86-64 CPU error message while installing Mint?

By the way, while installing Mint on my HP laptop ( 64bit) last week showed memory error and when I did a check on bios, it showed hard rive failure. Memory was fine and ended up replacing the hardrive.

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:08 pm
by LinuxJim
atheistsunited wrote:On a lighter note, I am quite surprised that a 32 bit machine let me run 64bit windows OS for so many years without any problems!
You didn't run 64-bit Windows. You ran 32-bit Windows. The Intel Core Duo processor is not capable of running 64-bit *anything*. It was not until a year after your laptop was made that the first 64-bit Intel processor came out - the Core *2* Duo.

So, you can only use 32-bit (Windows *or* Linux).

Re: Which Mint version is ideal for an older machine?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:48 am
by supertuxkart
No, it's viceversa.

32 bit machine is not able to manage 64bit lenght instruction set, for physical impossibility.