Update manager, level 5

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Update manager, level 5

Post by Windpower »

Hi

Normally I install Linux update from level 1 to 3 but I receive an update at level 5 which refer to the kernel drivers. See enclosed picture.
My xfce is working ok.

Should this update be installed?

Thank you for any help.
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Windpower wrote: Should this update be installed?
Yes, it's a security update.
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Being classified as a level 5 update means it might break something on your system.
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Windpower wrote:My xfce is working ok. Should this update be installed?
This is a gray area for me. Level 5 (and Level 4) Security updates can pose a risk to a system (see Cosmo's post above), but then risk exists if the security updates are not applied (see Laurent85's post above). Both are warranted views.

Allow me to pass along a couple of well-written posts by Clem on the subject, which helped educate me, and helped me decide what to do in my own situation. Stability vs. Security, and On the topic of the Update Manager.

EDIT: Another informative article on Update Manager.

Lastly, here's what I do, and let me be clear in saying this is not what everyone should blindly do. If there are Level 4 or 5 Security updates (indicated by the exclamation point icon), I apply them. If there are Level 4 or 5 Package updates (indicated by the down-arrow icon), I do not apply them. In my own situation, I am comfortable with the risks associated with applying Level 4 & 5 Security updates. I'm confident others have their opinions as well, as everyone's situation is different.

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Re: Update manager, level 5

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I was wondering about that too. Mine locked up and wouldn't let me proceed until I did that update. Since then my google tabs won't fully resolve in Firefox.

Error message: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/d ... le/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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I've been ignoring this one so far. Looks scary for some reason :?
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Carnuck wrote:Error message: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/d ... le/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
That's an innocent "hickup" caused by Google withdrawing support for 32-bit Chrome. It's likely that Google will fix this for 64-bit Chrome in the coming days. :)
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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I forgot how to tell if mine is 32 bit or 64 bit (I blame it on the head injury)
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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I try to wait a few days on security updates for levels 4 and 5 to see if the people start showing up on the forum reporting issues. It isn't a fool proof strategy, but if makes me feel a little more comfortable moving forward with them if other people aren't complaining that they broke their systems.
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Carnuck wrote:I was wondering about that too. Mine locked up and wouldn't let me proceed until I did that update. Since then my google tabs won't fully resolve in Firefox.

Error message: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/d ... le/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
There is a work around for this discussed at the end of this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=143&t=214847
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Well crap, I found out I'm running 32 bit.
egrep -w 'RELEASE|CODENAME|EDITION|DESKTOP|TOOLKIT' /etc/linuxmint/info
RELEASE=17.3
CODENAME=rosa
EDITION="Cinnamon 32-bit"
DESKTOP=Gnome
TOOLKIT=GTK

I don't think I can upgrade to 64 bit either. (old Toshiba Portege Vista machine)
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Carnuck wrote: I don't think I can upgrade to 64 bit either. (old Toshiba Portege Vista machine)
if you want to be sure, try:

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$ grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep " lm "
If that commands finds " lm ", that means your cpu shuold support a 64 bit OS
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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$ grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep " lm "
result:
$: command not found

Error in code or?
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Sorry, my command that I pasted in there had the "$" from my command prompt at the beginning of the line. Try this one that doesn't include the "$" at the beginning.

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grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep " lm "
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Use the arch command to determine running architecture:

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Re: Update manager, level 5

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cholq wrote:I try to wait a few days on security updates for levels 4 and 5 to see if the people start showing up on the forum reporting issues. It isn't a fool proof strategy, but if makes me feel a little more comfortable moving forward with them if other people aren't complaining that they broke their systems.
If you think that this makes you feel more comfortable, than you can do this. But to be honest, with this method you could apply the update also at once.
Consider, that the updates are (exceptions may exist, but that is not covered by the level system) tested and well done. (We speak in this context about packages from the official repositories.) That means that they will work perfectly on most machines and most users will report that it does. But if you are unlucky your machine does not belong to the "most". In this case your comfortable feeling will be of short duration.

There are 2 methods for safely applying those updates, which come into my mind:
1. Make an image backup of your system, in this case you can reset the system to the previous state.
2. Create a small second installation of your Mint on the same machine. You can apply the update there and test it. If this works without problems, you may really apply the update with comfortable feeling on your main system.
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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I ran sudo apt-get upgrade and got a bunch of updates but don't know if I should run them or not.

(removed) ~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade
[sudo] password for computer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
mint-backgrounds-rebecca
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages have been kept back:
linux-kernel-generic virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils
virtualbox-guest-x11
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base-files grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common libegl1-mesa
libegl1-mesa-drivers libgbm1 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa
libgles2-mesa libopenvg1-mesa libplymouth2 libwayland-egl1-mesa
libxatracker2 linux-libc-dev plymouth plymouth-label
plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text upstart x11-common xorg xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-radeon
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Configuration file '/etc/issue'

Configuration file '/etc/issue.net'
==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:
Y or I : install the package maintainer's version
N or O : keep your currently-installed version
D : show the differences between the versions
Z : start a shell to examine the situation
The default action is to keep your current version.
*** issue.net (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?


I don't know which to choose?
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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cholq wrote:Sorry, my command that I pasted in there had the "$" from my command prompt at the beginning of the line. Try this one that doesn't include the "$" at the beginning.

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grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep " lm "
I tried and it just came back to command prompt but I have 2 terminal screens open to try to do this (awaiting consensus on which option to choose with the other update link I ran) so that may have affected it.

Previous thread on this laptop viewtopic.php?t=197165
Intel says 32 bit instruction only for my processor.
http://ark.intel.com/products/27240/Int ... 33-MHz-FSB
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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Carnuck wrote:I ran sudo apt-get upgrade and got a bunch of updates but don't know if I should run them or not.
You realise that apt-get upgrade does not respect the different update levels, right?
Why not use the Updater? You'll get a lot more information, and can make informed choices.
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Re: Update manager, level 5

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The updater is showing a red X (because of the google chrome update links) and now shows a blank shield. "Another application is using APT" message.

So should I choose option N or ?

I'm sorry I only understand a small amount of this in bits and bites. I had a "friend" help me set it up originally and he may have left a bad code in there. He stopped helping me and abandoned 3 cars and a load of garbage at my place to keep me from moving in.
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