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Re: BleachBit My Question

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Yes - form YOUR OWN opinion.

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daveinuk wrote:Bleachbit is bad, really really bad, trust us on this one, it's really bad, no one ever used it and survived, I heard it eats ntfs or sumthin'? or was it ext3? I dunno it's just really really bad, there was this one time, this one guy, called Freddie Starr or someone, well, Bleachbit ate his HAMSTER !!!1101LO!
True story, new question, same answer, Bleachbit is really bad, it destroys satellites etc, rinse, repeat.
Did you made this aware at the BB developer? My best guess is not, since ranting about your problems is so much easier than posting your problems/issues on the BB forum.....

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@linuxfreak, i think daveinuk was joking, as in doing a parody of all those that like to say bad things about Bleachbit.

I took peoples advice from here (the mint forums) in general, in relation to be wary of Bleachbit, but as i had tools like it in Windows i knew to be safe, and enjoyed the convenience of using, i decided to take the risk and give Bleachbit a go. With a bit of reading up i decided that yes Bleachbit was more dangerous than CCleaner (equivalent in windows), and i could see it could be possible to use it in a way that could mess up my installation, and most of that info was from the Bleachbit program and site itself.

Still with careful use, and i do use it every day after i have finished using the internet, it seems so far to be possible to use it in a way that clears up left over junk it would be difficult/time consuming to remove in other ways. This is just my personal experience from using it, and not being a Linux expert at all you can take that for what it is, it is interesting that so many people do have such strong feelings about the program though, and maybe when (if) it screws up my Mint install i will join those that call for Bleachbit to be removed/not used etc?
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ZakGordon, as long as you keep your hamster far away from your computer... :lol:
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linuxfreak wrote:
daveinuk wrote:Bleachbit is bad, really really bad, trust us on this one, it's really bad, no one ever used it and survived, I heard it eats ntfs or sumthin'? or was it ext3? I dunno it's just really really bad, there was this one time, this one guy, called Freddie Starr or someone, well, Bleachbit ate his HAMSTER !!!1101LO!
True story, new question, same answer, Bleachbit is really bad, it destroys satellites etc, rinse, repeat.
Did you made this aware at the BB developer? My best guess is not, since ranting about your problems is so much easier than posting your problems/issues on the BB forum.....
OK Mr Mackey.
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The Old Timer wrote: OK Mr Mackey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M
We're not getting personal here, aren't we?

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Well I installed BleachBit and ran only the browser cleaning part and checked all of the boxes.
Nothing bad happened and my Linux system didn't break.

It did show a lot of tracking cookies according to the preview prior to running the cleaner.
I don't at this point see any need in running BleachBit as root since that has no browser cleaner.


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All this fear for BB is really exaggerated. I used BB for years (weekly, sometimes daily) in Linux Mint without any problem. BB automatize conveniently the cleaning of the system, so it saves time and space on the HDD/SSD. Really BB is an useful program.
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xfrank wrote:All this fear for BB is really exaggerated. I used BB for years (weekly, sometimes daily) in Linux Mint without any problem. BB automatize conveniently the cleaning of the system, so it saves time and space on the HDD/SSD. Really BB is an useful program.
I ain't scared worst that can happen is I break my system and that ain't no big deal.
If one never takes chances than one never learns anything and this is not life-threatening it is only an OS.
With learning there sometimes comes risk and that is tuition for the price of an education.

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The Old Timer wrote:
xfrank wrote:All this fear for BB is really exaggerated. I used BB for years (weekly, sometimes daily) in Linux Mint without any problem. BB automatize conveniently the cleaning of the system, so it saves time and space on the HDD/SSD. Really BB is an useful program.
I ain't scared worst that can happen is I break my system and that ain't no big deal.
If one never takes chances than one never learns anything and this is not life-threatening it is only an OS.
With learning there sometimes comes risk and that is tuition for the price of an education.

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There are other way's to break your system, but nobody is talking about those ways.

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I have read a lot of the threads about BleachBit that are on this forum and they all seem to wind up with the same biased opinions.
No documentation as to what happened and as to how or what caused it to happen.

I can see where a knowledgeable user understanding the functions of the features in BleachBit would and can have excellent results.
I can see where a user without knowledge and understanding of the functions of the features in BleachBit would and can and probably did have an unsatisfactory experience due only to the fault of their own actions.

As I am running BleachBit only for personal learning purposes I have used the features APT / Browser / System to clear out temporary files and have not experienced anything bad.
No problems.
No broken system.
No change at all.

So I will keep using this and see what I learn over the months from my own user experience.

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xfrank wrote:All this fear for BB is really exaggerated. I used BB for years (weekly, sometimes daily) in Linux Mint without any problem. BB automatize conveniently the cleaning of the system, so it saves time and space on the HDD/SSD. Really BB is an useful program.
Will you provide a good tutorial to run it safely?
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The Old Timer wrote:Well I installed BleachBit and ran only the browser cleaning part and checked all of the boxes.

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You installed it, I thought it came by default? well in Mint, but maybe not Xfce? But we don't know what you are running?
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pcpunk wrote:Will you provide a good tutorial to run it safely?
The BB author claims, that there are no unsafe functions without special warning. If a "good tutorial to run it safely" gets requested it means implicitly, that you don't trust the authors claim. The next question is, why you want to use it with this precondition and trust a tutorial? (Rhetorical)

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In my case I am willing to break and destroy my Linux distro as BleachBit is being used on a test computer for learning purposes.
If an end-user has doubts about using or doesn't understand how to use BleachBit then don't.

Here is a proven solution to use by Pjotr from "Easy Linux Tips Project".

https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/4

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@The Old Timer, Thanks forgot about that one.
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Well all is still good as I am trying more of the features and some that I check give me a warning.
When I come across a warning I don't use that feature until I discover exactly what it does.
So far so good no problems or deficiencies noticed with my running Linux distro.
I will agree that I don't notice much as far as amount of crap / trash etc being removed as I don't think Linux creates much.

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The Old Timer wrote:Well all is still good as I am trying more of the features and some that I check give me a warning.
When I come across a warning I don't use that feature until I discover exactly what it does.
So far so good no problems or deficiencies noticed with my running Linux distro.
I will agree that I don't notice much as far as amount of crap / trash etc being removed as I don't think Linux creates much.

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Good to see that everything is running fine after using BB! Good proof that there's is not much wrong with this application.

I run it maybe once every 2 months but the first time it did removed lot of stuff cleaning up hundreds of megabytes. After that first cleaning round it cleans out some megabytes but not much.

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I believe BleachBit is a good cleaner if an end-user will take the needed time to learn how to use it.

I have had some error messages occur when using certain features of BleachBit.
BleachBit wasn't allowed access to certain files for cleaning and that may have been the reason for the errors.

Again my purpose of this endeavor is only for my own learning about using BleachBit in Linux. If necessary for this learning purpose I'm willing to destroy or break my Linux distro.

BleachBit IMO doesn't deserve the bashing that it does seem to receive. I do respect all of the posters opinions good or bad about their experience with BleachBit as there is always a risk that can occur when using third party software.

If an end-user has any hesitation about using BleachBit then DON'T.
There are other methods of cleaning Linux as the one in "Easy Linux Tips Projects" which is an excellent proven solution.

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Re: [Solved] BleachBit My Question

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BleachBit used non root with all features checked EXCEPT.

In Deep Scan were not checked.
Backup Files

In System not checked.
Custom
Free Disk Space
Localizations
Memory
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BleachBit used as root with all features checked EXCEPT.

In Deep Scan were not checked.
Backup Files

In System not checked.
Custom
Free Disk Space
Localizations
Memory

These features I choose not to use at this time.
Again my Linux system didn't break and I haven't noticed any problems and all is working well.

An end-user can only decide if BleachBit is safe to use on their own computer.
These are MY RESULTS and I am NOT an IT PROFESSIONAL so use BleachBit at your OWN RISK.

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