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[CLOSED]Shutdown problems w/mint 18.1 cinnamon serena..

Postby sncalaska » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:35 pm

[CLOSED]i have been having problems getting this os to shutdown.
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Re: Shutdown problems w/mint 18.1 cinnamon serena..

Postby prestonR » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:53 am

What kernel are you using? Please open a terminal and give us the results of:

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inxi -Fxz

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Re: Shutdown problems w/mint 18.1 cinnamon serena..

Postby sncalaska » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:08 pm

Kernel: 4.4.0-53

I also do have the preferred nvidia driver. i upgraded from mint 18 cinnamon sarah to serena.
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Re: Shutdown problems w/mint 18.1 cinnamon serena..

Postby sncalaska » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:27 pm

also having a reboot problem; not so great as i'm dual booted to windows 10.

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shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby sncalaska » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:17 am

cinnamon serena. can anyone offer any step by step command line solutions?

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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby austin.texas » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:00 am

Does this mean it will not shutdown? Or reboot?
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inxi -Fxz
Mint 18.2 Cinnamon, Quad core AMD A8-3870 with Radeon HD Graphics 6550D, 8GB DDR3, Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby sncalaska » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:51 pm

shutdown intermittently works. this is an old dell xps 410 tower.

Dell-DXP061 ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: -Dell-DXP061 Kernel: 4.4.0-53-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.1)
Distro: Linux Mint 18.1 Serena
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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby Mik3e » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:06 pm

The command line for shutdown is: shutdown -P now
for restart: shutdown -r now

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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby sncalaska » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:09 pm

Thanks Mike; i'll use those til i find a solution. shutdown is still intermittent.

Later: command didn't shutdown, but command to reboot worked.
Can anyone offer suggestion to fix shutdown issue?

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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby austin.texas » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:10 pm

Do you have the same problems when using the live Mint USB or DVD?
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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby sncalaska » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:57 am

the shutdown/reboot problems just cropped up in the last few weeks. i did the install on a usb stick, but that was mint 18, not 18.1.18.1 was an upgrade.
i am getting an occasional proper shutdown, but mostly i have to depress the button and hold on my tower to turn mint 18.1 off.

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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby deepakdeshp » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:06 am

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man shutdown
will give all details about the shutdown command.

You can see http://askubuntu.com/questions/578144/w ... -shut-down .
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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby austin.texas » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:11 am

sncalaska wrote:Later: command didn't shutdown, but command to reboot worked.
The command to shutdown is

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sudo shutdown -h now
("h" for "halt")
sncalaska wrote:i am getting an occasional proper shutdown, but mostly i have to depress the button and hold on my tower to turn mint 18.1 off.
Forcing a power off can damage the filesystem. Use REISUB (reboot) or REISUO (shut down) instead.
Hold down the Alt and SysRq (Print Screen) keys, and enter r e i s u o
On my computer I can hold down Alt and tap the SysRq key, then enter reisuo.
On some computers it has to be Shift-Alt and tap the SysRq key. Or it can be Ctrl-Alt and SysRq.
Laptops may require you to hold down the function key (fn) along with alt and sysrq.

Pause after each key to give the computer time to compute. (particularly after e, i, and s.)

Technical details:
r = unRaw (take control of keyboard back from X),
e = tErminate (send SIGTERM to all processes, allowing them to terminate gracefully),
i = kIll (send SIGKILL to all processes, forcing them to terminate immediately),
s = Sync (flush data to disk),
u = Unmount (remount all filesystems read-only),
b = reBoot.

I remember it as "Reboot Even If System Utterly Borked "
(or REISUB is just BUSIER backwards)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby sncalaska » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:44 pm

deepakdeshp wrote:

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man shutdown
will give all details about the shutdown command.

You can see http://askubuntu.com/questions/578144/w ... -shut-down .

Thanks for the webpage, but my shutdown/reboot by normal means is not solved.

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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby sncalaska » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:49 pm

austin.texas wrote:
sncalaska wrote:Later: command didn't shutdown, but command to reboot worked.
The command to shutdown is

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sudo shutdown -h now
("h" for "halt")
sncalaska wrote:i am getting an occasional proper shutdown, but mostly i have to depress the button and hold on my tower to turn mint 18.1 off.
Forcing a power off can damage the filesystem. Use REISUB (reboot) or REISUO (shut down) instead.
Hold down the Alt and SysRq (Print Screen) keys, and enter r e i s u o
On my computer I can hold down Alt and tap the SysRq key, then enter reisuo.
On some computers it has to be Shift-Alt and tap the SysRq key. Or it can be Ctrl-Alt and SysRq.
Laptops may require you to hold down the function key (fn) along with alt and sysrq.

Pause after each key to give the computer time to compute. (particularly after e, i, and s.)

Technical details:
r = unRaw (take control of keyboard back from X),
e = tErminate (send SIGTERM to all processes, allowing them to terminate gracefully),
i = kIll (send SIGKILL to all processes, forcing them to terminate immediately),
s = Sync (flush data to disk),
u = Unmount (remount all filesystems read-only),
b = reBoot.

I remember it as "Reboot Even If System Utterly Borked "
(or REISUB is just BUSIER backwards)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

thanks for the keyboard tips.
i'm still stuck with os not shutting down or rebooting consistently; more times not.
i was afraid of data lose by shutting down w/button on tower.
do you know anything i can do to fix these issues? preferably with command line?
when i do not get a proper shutdown or reboot, i'm stuck on a screen that gives me no option to go backwards and use your commands.

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Re: shutdown and reboot problems w/linux mint 18.1...

Postby sncalaska » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:10 pm

austin.texas, i see: the Alt+print screen+ reisuo works on the screen that hangs up when i try to shut down, too. good deal!

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Re: Shutdown problems w/mint 18.1 cinnamon serena..

Postby Sand » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:53 pm

Hi everybody

I have a similar problem with shut down and have been searching for solutions here and there (Linus forum and similar) without any solution/s that worked for me.
So is shut down issue a known bug in the Linux kernel without a fix?

I'm using 4.8.0-34-generic x86_64 kernel on Mint 18.1 Serena (AMD A8-5600K APU with Radeon HD Graphics)

I have tried to modify Grub with different tweaks (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=) on this line without success. Funny thing is that after every different change computer has shut down properly once but after start it hangs again in splash window.
The only nominator that i have noticed working is that in the end of line changes in Grub i upgrade it in terminal and i wonder if this is what actually shuts down my desktop not the line tweaks :D
And no, it wont shut down with the different commands like the above. (sudo init 0,sudo shutdown -P now and similar)

If some out there has useful info or better a solution i also would be happy.

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Re: Shutdown problems w/mint 18.1 cinnamon serena..

Postby sncalaska » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:43 pm

Sand wrote:Hi everybody

I have a similar problem with shut down and have been searching for solutions here and there (Linus forum and similar) without any solution/s that worked for me.
So is shut down issue a known bug in the Linux kernel without a fix?

I'm using 4.8.0-34-generic x86_64 kernel on Mint 18.1 Serena (AMD A8-5600K APU with Radeon HD Graphics)

I have tried to modify Grub with different tweaks (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=) on this line without success. Funny thing is that after every different change computer has shut down properly once but after start it hangs again in splash window.
The only nominator that i have noticed working is that in the end of line changes in Grub i upgrade it in terminal and i wonder if this is what actually shuts down my desktop not the line tweaks :D
And no, it wont shut down with the different commands like the above. (sudo init 0,sudo shutdown -P now and similar)

If some out there has useful info or better a solution i also would be happy.

Regards
Sand


I had wondered if a higher # kernel would fix my shutdown/reboot issues, but you are way out ahead of me as i only have 4.4.0-53 which is being recommended for security.

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Re: Shutdown problems w/mint 18.1 cinnamon serena..

Postby Sand » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:23 pm

Hi sncalaska

A higher number on the kernel should give new/r hardware some advantage generally. And a good thing to know is that if your system works u don't need to upgrade to the latest kernel.

If u still have problem with shutdown u can try this solution and see if it helps:


Step 1: Go to terminal and type

sudo gedit /etc/default/grub


It will open the grub file. Change the line
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
to
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" acpi=force apm=power_off
and close it after saving.


Step 2: Again hit the terminal and type


sudo gedit /etc/modules


It will open the modules - just type apm power_off=1 below lp and save the file.


Step 3: Next type in the terminal
sudo update-grub


Now the grub will be updated and you won't face any issue with shutdown.
There are quite many different variants of this code line in the different forums and it can be idea to try some of them to see what works for your hardware in the end.
This problem seems to happen to some users and what i understood. ( there isn't just one fix to this bug even if it has been around for a while. (have seen the same shutdown problems in cinnamon 17.3 also)

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Re: Shutdown problems w/mint 18.1 cinnamon serena..

Postby sncalaska » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:58 pm

Sand, i had actually found what you provided googling a few weeks ago, trying to solve it myself. i already did the modifications then. please see the attachment to see if i put
modules2.jpg
the entry in correct place in modules(did not know what you meant by "lp"). Thought "#" was just stuff visible to person modifying.
i have 17.3 on another machine and it used to be on this one, never experienced this issue,

i did try to shutdown and had to use "reisuo+alt+print screen" after the Command line w/grub update.

let me see how shutdowns go to see if grub update helped.
thanks.

also, i've had a big problem w/ vlc media player only giving me audio on downloaded movies(which all work properly w/default media player on serena). you know anything on that? i have it posted in software.

i like mint cinnamon; wish i could get rid of these bugs.

thanks,
sc


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