Mint 18.1 all forms So Slow

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Mint 18.1 all forms So Slow

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I hope there is someone who can help me please. I'm new to Linux and almost giving up, on an old laptop....
I tried Cinnamon but this pc wasn't powerful enough and it was unstable.
I installed Mate !8.0, everything good, but the pc kept freezing on a fairly infrequent basis but often enough to be problematic.
I updated to Mate 18.1 but the freezing continued, but otherwise a normal pc experience.
I downloaded and installed the newest version of Mate 18.1 and hooray the freezing stopped but after a short period of use the the pc behaved like a snail pulling a train, it's so slow that a an email times out before it's sent, I've tried all the "how to make your Linux Mint 18.1 go faster" with no success, and Googled until i'm "blue in the face" without success.
In desperation I burnt yet another ISO and loaded !8.1Xfce but the pc is still so slow as to be unusable.
I'm using Thunderbird and Firefox, please what can I do to improve matters and retain my sanity.
Memtest checks out OK.
Thanks in anticipation.

The output from inxi-Fxz is:

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andrew@andrew-Latitude-D820 ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: andrew-Latitude-D820 Kernel: 4.4.0-53-generic i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.28) Distro: Linux Mint 18.1 Serena
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Latitude D820
           Mobo: Dell model: 0GF470 Bios: Dell v: A09 date: 06/04/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel T2400 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 vmx) bmips: 7315
           clock speeds: max: 1833 MHz 1: 1000 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1680x1050@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GM x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 11.2.0 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-53-generic
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
           driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 09:00.0
           IF: enp9s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
           driver: iwl3945 v: in-tree:s bus-ID: 0c:00.0
           IF: wlp12s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (4.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1600BEVS size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 145G used: 5.2G (4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.14GB used: 0.01GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 178 Uptime: 4:20 Memory: 610.2/2004.5MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.461) inxi: 2.2.35

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Try (all or some of) these speed tweaks:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/3
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My wife has a 9 year old PC and she was using Mint 17.3 with the KDE desktop. Ran pretty good. A few weeks ago I decided to update to 18 (or 18.1 I forgot) and it was as slow as your snail pulling the train.
I tried Manjaro 17.1 on it and it was pretty fast again. Now she has a new PC and it is lightning fast with an i3-7100 processor, 8GB of DDR 4 ram and an m2. SSD drive. Of course powered by Manjaro. Sorry to say this on the Mint forum but Manjaro, based on Arch, is so much faster than the Debian based distro's, or should I say the Ubuntu based distro's?

What you can do is install Mint 17.x on the computer if you want to use Mint. I found it faster on older hardware than 18.x.

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Hi Pjotr,
Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your time..
I should have been clearer in my post. I've tried all (or most the applicable things) that are cited in the https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/3" without any kind of improvement. In my limited experiece this is a problem that is more fundamental than tweaking the system.

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Mint 17.3 xfce is surely worth a try.

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Thanks for your input Cosmo.
I sort of took your advice and loaded Mint 17.3 Mate (I didn't like the interface of Xfce but I understand the loading are similar?).
But the same thing happened: snail like activity persisted.
By installing Htop I saw that any Firefox/Thunderbird action sent the CPU activity shooting up to 100% where it stayed.
On another Linux site, this post http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... 175583886/ popped up.
I don't even begin to understand the explanation of what is/was going on but by blindly following the "disabling of 'compositing' in Windows Manager", has for the moment improved the situation to a remarkable degree. I can listen to Iplayer and have a bit of a surf simultaneously. The CPU still peaks at 100% but only for a short time.
If there's anyone who would be kind enough to explain, very very simply, what's going on I'd be really grateful.
What I find difficult to comprehend is that I've got Mate 18.1 running on 2 Dell Dimension 3100 tower PCs of about the same age (2005) without a problem.
Another poster in a different forum (which I cant find for the moment) has said that installing "xorg-server-lts-vivid" from the Level4 update manager will also be an improvement... anyone know or have an opinion on this?
Thanks in anticipation...

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AndrewC wrote:Another poster in a different forum (which I cant find for the moment) has said that installing "xorg-server-lts-vivid" from the Level4 update manager will also be an improvement... anyone know or have an opinion on this?
That looks very unlikely to me.
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Pjotr,
I'm really stumbling about in the dark here.
I'm sure you've got a lot of knowledge to impart on this matter.
Would you like to expand on your reply a bit please?

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Have you tried any other distros besides Mint?

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other distros besides Mint?
In another life I tried Ubuntu, I can't remember which version, not a good experience.
Besides, I've got Mint on 2 other machines that work well, I don't really want to have another distro. Other Mint users don't seem to suffer (I know a few) so it can only be an anomaly with this laptop (Dell D820, ex XP, 2 gb memory Intel Centrino Duo CPU... I just wish I could find out what it is!
You didn't say what you use to prompt the question?

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