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SOLVED - 6/21/2017 - Yet Another Update - (SOLVED - UPDATE SOLVED) - System Requirements - which Linux Mint.?

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I'm not exactly a newbie but I have a newbie type question. I'm running Linux Mint Serena 18.1 64Bit, Cinnamon and Mate on a Dual Boot Athlon II X3 425 w/4Gigs ram. Each OS has its own Hard Drive. They run Great. I like them both. Cinnamon is Definitely the Mint Flagship, being it's so customize-able. Mate is not as customize-able but faster and more stable. I of course refer to this system of mine only.

I like to tinker around with hardware, play with software and consider myself a computer enthusiast. My Mantra is a computer is not outdated as long as it does what you want. I retired a P4 2.6GHz w/2Gigs Ram, 2 160G HDD's on an AOpen motherboard because Windows XP was done and a single core was not capable of playing HD movies. I realize there's more to a computer than play movies and with Linux Mint coming complete with Libra Office, an older system can still be useful.

Here is my question:

I want to revive my old P4 2.6GHz w/2Gigs Ram, 32Bit on an AOpen motherboard. I have spent some money & I am waiting on parts and a case from NewEgg for this project so there is no turning back even if you think it's a waste. I am doing it for the fun of doing it. I have built to many new systems, My Last an 8 core AMD. So an old system I had not done. With that in mind, What Linux Mint 32Bit is recommended for this system.? I have downloaded and burned to disk Mint Mate 17.3 and Mint Mate18.1. Do I need to go older.? :D
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You can't/shouldn't go older given that they are no longer supported.

As far as requirements go http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3182 has the answer.

They are surprisingly low.
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There's also the wonderful Xfce edition to consider.
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I have done several installs of 17.3 and 18.0 and 18.1 cinnamon with single cores in both 64 bit and 32 bit machines. Some things like Skype and video downloads are a bit taxing but usable and the Office suites are great with either.

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I haven't played with the Xfce desktop. Wonder what it's like.?

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Tomgin5 wrote:I have done several installs of 17.3 and 18.0 and 18.1 cinnamon with single cores in both 64 bit and 32 bit machines. Some things like Skype and video downloads are a bit taxing but usable and the Office suites are great with either.

That's good info and encouraging. With a P4 2.6Ghz w/2G ram, I am Pretty sure its only a 32bit system, From your experience which do you think will work best.?

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MintyO wrote:There's also the wonderful Xfce edition to consider.
I haven't played with the Xfce desktop. Wonder what it's like.?

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PlutoPup wrote:
MintyO wrote:There's also the wonderful Xfce edition to consider.
I haven't played with the Xfce desktop. Wonder what it's like.?
Like I wrote, wonderful. :wink:

Seriously though, it's easiest for you to make a stick or a disc and take a look yourself. I like Cinnamon very much, but still something keeps luring me back to using Xfce more (I have both as separate installs).
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PlutoPup wrote:I haven't played with the Xfce desktop. Wonder what it's like.?
Runs great on lower spec'd systems.
Close to a "Windows experience" as any in Linux, IMO.

It is very stable and durable and consistent.
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With respect considering it's a Mint forum, may I humbly suggest you also have a play with MX 16 which is based on AntiX but uses Debian software.
There are two 32bit versions here,

https://mxlinux.org/download-links

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To those who have suggested Xfce, What build or version are you suggesting I try, Xfce18.1, Xfce17.3 or an older Xfce......?

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turtlebay wrote:With respect considering it's a Mint forum, may I humbly suggest you also have a play with MX 16 which is based on AntiX but uses Debian software.
There are two 32bit versions here,

https://mxlinux.org/download-links

Never heard of it.. If Mint doesn't work, I'll look into it but for now I would like to stick with Mint..

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Habitual wrote:
PlutoPup wrote:I haven't played with the Xfce desktop. Wonder what it's like.?
Runs great on lower spec'd systems.
Close to a "Windows experience" as any in Linux, IMO.

It is very stable and durable and consistent.
My Daily driver for 5 years until recently. :wink:
Great to hear. I'm sold on trying Xfce. All I need to know is what version to try; 18.1, 17.3 or older.

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PlutoPup wrote:
Habitual wrote:
PlutoPup wrote:I haven't played with the Xfce desktop. Wonder what it's like.?
Runs great on lower spec'd systems.
Close to a "Windows experience" as any in Linux, IMO.

It is very stable and durable and consistent.
My Daily driver for 5 years until recently. :wink:[/quote

Great to hear. I'm sold on trying Xfce. All I need to know is what version to try; 18.1, 17.3 or older.
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Personally I have found very little advantage in 32 bit or 64 bit installations in older single core desktops from the early XP machines. Personally I prefer the GUI in the Cinnamon and the easy ability to customize things. I tried a couple of different pre 2000 machines and I really did not care to spend 3/4 ths of my time fighting to make things work in terminal mode. I am not a coder and gave up on it before windows came around and switched to 100% machine code and compiling for industrial robots. around 2001 I decided to forgo even that and turned it over to C++ programmers. They could do that while I was busy designing the wiring to make things work from the computer I/O to the accessories. This last year I have resurrected over 80 bricked systems that had TOO Many windows in them for new convert users. All have been LM 17.3 - LM 18.1 Cinnamon.

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PlutoPup wrote:To those who have suggested Xfce, What build or version are you suggesting I try, Xfce18.1, Xfce17.3 or an older Xfce......?
Nothing before the 17.xxx series as they are no longer supported, meaning no updates at all and the repos of software have been disconnected.

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I rather like XFCE. When I installed Mint 17 on my computer, I thought I'd go with the flagship, Cinnamon. And I do like it. But I have installed XFCE on a couple of older computers, and I'm thinking when I upgrade from17.3 to 18.x, I may just go with XFCE. It uses WAY less resources than Cinnamon, and will run reasonably fast even on the older machines.
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I have also used MX on older computers. I installed MX on an older single core laptop for a friend after finding that it didn't like Mint so well, and MX worked fine. It's Debian based, like all the best distros, and the MX devs are pretty good about taking requests for new software that people want. If it weren't for MInt, I might use MX.
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"I want to revive my old P4 2.6GHz w/2Gigs Ram, 32Bit on an AOpen motherboard.".

in my book, that's a fairly med spec machine, as most of my Ex win-xp based PCs,
only ever had just 1Gb ram, so having 2Gb was always a bonus.
& with a faster 2,6 cpu, as well, that would make the machine really fly,

- either MX xfce OR Mint mate / xfce will work well on that thing.
not Cinnamon, though.
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If you want to take pressure off a single core CPU, the easiest way is to toss in a graphics card capable of handling the HD video.
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