18.2 Cinnamon seems slower than 17.3

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chetvaldes
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18.2 Cinnamon seems slower than 17.3

Postby chetvaldes » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:40 am

Hello,
after upgrading from 17.3 Cinnamon 64 bit to 18.2 64 bit Cinnamon on my Lenovo X61, the menu seems laggy and I've noticed a definite slower response in Firefox, especially when typing emails. I have 4 GB ram installed. Is this caused by changes in the Cinnamon DE, the latest kernel, Firefox, or a combination of all of them? I'm considering downgrading since I was pretty happy with the performance before the upgrades. Or could I just go back to an earlier kernel?

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Re: 18.2 Cinnamon seems slower than 17.3

Postby Hoser Rob » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:30 am

May be hardware related ... copy/paste this into the terminal and copy/paste the yexy output here:

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inxi -Fxz

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Re: 18.2 Cinnamon seems slower than 17.3

Postby michael louwe » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:40 am

@ chetvaldes,.......

Lenovo Thinkpad X61 = 2007. (manufacture date)
Linux Mint 17.3 = 2015 release date. (EOL = 2019)
Linux Mint 18.2 = 2017 release date. (EOL = 2021)

For your very old 2007 computer, LM 17.3 may be the last compatible or fully-supported OS. Soon, your computer will reach EOL, in terms of software support, ie cannot run modern OS and software/programs smoothly.
... As for running LM 18.2, try downgrading the Linux kernel to 4.4 LTS or 3.13 LTS and see whether your old computer runs smoother/faster.

Similarly, most Win XP era computers(= manufactured at around 2001) could not run the 2012-released Win 8.x or the 2015-released Win 10. Most Win XP era computers should be in the junkyard by now.

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Re: 18.2 Cinnamon seems slower than 17.3

Postby Petermint » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:20 pm

I notice Javascript based editing is slower in Firefox after using Firefox for a while. Restarting Firefox helps. Does restarting Firefox help on your machine?

I notice all typing can slow down after starting Skype or a video player. Stopping the application usually helps but sometimes I have to reboot. Does a reboot help your system?

You can look at application usage using the system manager. Set it to show everything, display processes, and sort based on CPU usage. You might find things running that you did not have running before.

Is the speed difference significant? LM 18.3 has a Cinnamon with some performance improvements. You might get back some of the speed you lost.

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Re: 18.2 Cinnamon seems slower than 17.3

Postby chetvaldes » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:51 am

chet@chet-ThinkPad-X61 ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System: Host: chet-ThinkPad-X61 Kernel: 4.4.0-93-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
Desktop: Cinnamon 3.4.6 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
Distro: Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya
Machine: System: LENOVO (portable) product: 76734NU v: ThinkPad X61
Mobo: LENOVO model: 76734NU
Bios: LENOVO v: 7NETC2WW (2.22 ) date: 03/22/2011
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo T7300 (-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 7979
clock speeds: max: 2001 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1200 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary)
bus-ID: 00:02.0
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1024x768@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM
GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 12.0.6 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-93-generic
Network: Card-1: Intel 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection
driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 1840 bus-ID: 00:19.0
IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR5212 802.11abg NIC
driver: ath5k bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: wls3 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 256.1GB (9.3% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: SanDisk_SD8SBAT2 size: 256.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 231G used: 19G (9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.22GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0C mobo: 50.0C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 3254 fan-2: 0
Info: Processes: 170 Uptime: 1:07 Memory: 1738.8/3878.4MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
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Re: 18.2 Cinnamon seems slower than 17.3

Postby Hoser Rob » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:50 am

michael louwe wrote:...
For your very old 2007 computer, LM 17.3 may be the last compatible or fully-supported OS. ....


What are you talking about? Cinnamon isn't really the right choice for a GM45 card but it's still supported.

It's not unusual for a new poin t release to run slower than the old one. In fact it's more the norm. Sometimes a newer release will be faster ... I installed 18.2 KDE in my laptop and Plasma 5 runs faster than 4 did in 17 ... but it's uncommon.

That same laptop, with newer Intel graphics than a GM45 but still old, doesn't run Cinnamon all that well. No glitches in the UI but slow. I wouldn't install Cinnamon on a GM45 equipped machine and my recommendation would be a data backup and a clean reinnstall of 18.2 Xfce or Mate.

When they say that Linux is good for savng old hardware, that's true. But it depends on the DE choice. Cinnamon, like Unity or Gnome 3, is meant for newer and more powerful machines. So are a lot of Steam games and some app software.


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