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Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:18 pm

Downloaded and ran cinnamon 17.1 on new HP Pavilion laptop but got that "Running in..." message that is the thread subject. I have reviewed past threads concerning this problem but the answers suggest using sudo apt-get commands. But since my computer won't connect on-line, I cannot do that. Mate 18.2 does download and runs fine except the WiFi is very, very weak.Nearly nonexistant except when right next to the router. I have use an ethernet cable to connect to my satellite. I suspect the problems I have are connected with the Windows 10 loaded on the Hewlett Packard. Microsoft seems to be in cahoots with HP and sees any divergence from using Win 10 as violation of their proprietary equipment. Anyway, can anyone help/

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby FreedomTruth » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:59 pm

Open the "Driver manager" from your menu. What are your options, and what are the current settings?
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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby Hoser Rob » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:21 am

I wouldn't suspect any grand conspiracies, just basic common hardware support issues.

To get some useful info, copy/paste this to the terminal and copy/paste the text output here:

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inxi -Fxz

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:48 am

I have to copy that to a thumb drive, then retrieve it to post here. Have to use different computers. Might take a awhile Rob. Thnx..

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:36 am

inxi -Fxz
System: Host: mint Kernel: 3.13.0-37-generic x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) Desktop: Gnome Distro: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca
Machine: System: HP (portable) product: HP Notebook version: Type1ProductConfigId
Mobo: HP model: 8207 version: 77.61 Bios: Insyde version: F.26 date: 06/01/2017
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100U CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9211.88
Clock Speeds: 1: 2300.00 MHz 2: 2300.00 MHz 3: 400.00 MHz 4: 2300.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Device 1916 bus-ID: 00:02.0
X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: fbdev,intel (unloaded: vesa) Resolution: 1600x900@77.0hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 256 bits) GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card: Intel Device 9d70 driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 Sound: ALSA ver: k3.13.0-37-generic
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be port: 3000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Card-2: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 4000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1008.2GB (0.6% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD1 size: 1000.2GB temp: 31C
2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: Cruzer size: 8.0GB temp: 0C
Partition: ID: / size: 3.9G used: 37M (1%) fs: overlayfs
RAID: No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0C mobo: 35.0C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 166 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 565.8/7873.5MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.2 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:53 am

I'm not sure this helps but I tried booting cinnamon 17.1 using an ethernet cable connected to the computer. Instead of booting to the normal Mint screen with that "...Software Rendering..." error message, it booted to a login screen (with background pic) but my user-name password wouldn't work. Neither would the user-name "admin" and password "admin", nor just hitting the enter key with empty fields.

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:13 pm

The Driver Manager is completely empty. An error message says "No proprietary drivers are in use".

Is it possible I downloaded a corrupted copy? I did download a copy of Cinnamon 18.1 and use that on an old Acer laptop I have. But that version is very complicated and again only connects when very close to the router.

I have an older copy of Cinnamon 17.1 on a older HP that had Windows 7 on it as well. I completely deleted the Windows OS. Cinnamon 17.1 runs fine on that computer and even connects to the router from another room. But the hardware is old. Sticky keys, etc.

There have been many complaints about Windows 10. Microsoft has used predatory business practice in the past. I have read they are making there platform unfriendly to other OSs. That is not "grand conspiracy". That is fact.

We are entering an era of either/or. Linux or Microsoft. Dual booting has become difficult. Maybe Ubuntu would still work?

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby mr_raider » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:24 pm

Mint 17 was released in 2014, and probably does not support skylake graphics properly.

I see two option:

1. Install Mint 18.2

2. Perform extensive surgery on the kernel and graphics stack of your Mint install, with possible unpredictable results.

I recommend 1, but I'm willing to help you try 2 if you are game.
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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:53 pm

I'm going for option one.

I have tried Cinnamon 18.1 and also Mate 18.2. Both have a problem connecting to my Internet WiFi from any distance other than right next to the router. I can connect those versions with double the speeds using Ethernet cable, but then I have to sit right next to the router. Yet the Cinnamon 17.1 on my old laptop connects from my living room, no problem.

I would use Mate 18.2, and dual boot, if it connected better. Maybe I need to invest in a new router? I have Hughes satellite and the HT2000W router. Or maybe the router settings could be adjusted for Mate to be compatible?

Maybe downloading and running Cinnamon 18.2 will work. But again, Mate 18.2 will not connect from any distance other than right next to the router so I'm guesing Cinnamon 18.2 might have the same problem.

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:18 am

Does anyone have any suggestions on a new more Linux compatible router rather than the one issued by Hughes satellite?

I also noticed both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies are turned on in the router. Could this be the reason for the poor connection issues? If not both then which frequency might be better/ I wonder if there are other settings in the router that might also be preventing the newer Linux versions from ccnnecting?

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby mr_raider » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:49 pm

dquinn618 wrote:Does anyone have any suggestions on a new more Linux compatible router rather than the one issued by Hughes satellite?

I also noticed both the 2.4GHz and 5GHz frequencies are turned on in the router. Could this be the reason for the poor connection issues? If not both then which frequency might be better/ I wonder if there are other settings in the router that might also be preventing the newer Linux versions from ccnnecting?


Start with the basics.

Boot your laptop with live USB or installed Mint, open a terminal and type:


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sudo lshw -C network 


AN d post the output
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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:53 pm

This is Mate 18.2

mint@mint ~ $ sudo lshw -c network
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
logical name: enp1s0
version: 07
serial: 30:e1:71:2e:39:45
size: 10Mbit/s
capacity: 100Mbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=half firmware=rtl8106e-1_0.0.1 06/29/12 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
resources: irq:126 ioport:4000(size=256) memory:b1500000-b1500fff memory:b1200000-b1203fff
*-network DISABLED
description: Wireless interface
product: RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
logical name: wlo1
version: 00
serial: 3c:95:09:8d:0a:f9
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8723be driverversion=4.8.0-53-generic firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: irq:17 ioport:3000(size=256) memory:b1400000-b1403fff

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby mr_raider » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:57 pm

Seems to be a recurrent issue. Some things to try

https://askubuntu.com/questions/628641/ ... 4-to-15-04
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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:38 am

I sent customer service technical support an email about this problem. Their response in a
DONOTREPLY email was: Mr. Quinn, with regards to your request, please contact your Firmware support. They are the one who can help us with that. And who might that be and how do I contact them? I thought Hughes issued that router. The Hughes name is on it. That's called passing the buck and denying responsibility, or simply not doing your job.

I'll never understand why some peons think passing the buck is easier than just doing the task. They are expending more energy doing that than just doing their jobs.

Then last night somebody named corrosive said my firmware is up to date. But today his and about 5 other emails are gone. This is support?

Things like this are exactly the reason so many people a frustrated and unhappy with Hughes.

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:08 pm

Oops, meant to say today corrosive's and about 5 other posts here are gone.

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Postby dquinn618 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:35 am

Loaded mate 18.2 onto hard drive. Still very week wifi. Found fix, driver
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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:40 am

Loaded Mate 18.2. Still very ify wifi. Found advertised fix, download driver for RTL8723BE

sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential git
git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new ... new_btcoex
cd rock.new_btcoex
make
sudo make install
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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:04 pm

Did not work

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Re: Running in Software Rendering Mode

Postby dquinn618 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:10 pm

I spent pretty much the entire day trying to make the wifi work right. HUGE waste of time. Everybody and their brother seems to have THE answer. None of them worked. The only answers really are Hewlett Packard or Microsoft or Linux Mint, or any combination therof, suck. Mate 18.2 does connect but only if you're in the same room as the router. And yet on my old Hewlett Packard running Cinnamon 17.1 laptop, wifi connects from anywhere in the house.

This seems to be a very common problem. The only thing I've read that even comes close to answering the problem is this:

re: No wifi in my hp laptop

Postby JeremyB » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:48 pm
The wireless is basically unsupported at this time it is a Realtek RTL8723DE
Realtek might have the source code to Larry Finger in the next 3 months


That must be true for the RTL8723BE as well. NOTHING I tried, and that was lotsa stuff, worked. Try again in 3 months maybe.


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