Update manager doesn't work

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[Boca]

Hi,

Despite the input of several helpful contributors, I have had this problem for 6 months now ( viewtopic.php?f=90&t=244016).

I am living with this by manually updating any Level 1/2 recommended updates.

At some point, a more serious issue may require a reinstall... and hopefully fix this issue as well.

Thanks to all for trying to help

Tony

[Säteri]

Well... in my case, after about a day the update manager stopped working again.
I still can update with terminal but yesterday, after i ran updates i got a new problem too and started a new thread for that.
But if anyone has a solution or even a suggestion what to do this one i would like to try fix this.

[Spearmint2]

May we assume your user is an administrator account? Check in Groups and Users area.

[Säteri]

In the user settings it says that the type of id is custom...
However i can't change anything in user settings and i can't open the advanced settins.
It's obvious that i have done something wrong with these administrator/user account things but what?

[Säteri]

I did some research and managed to do something right, i guess...
The situation was that in the right lower corner(notice area or something like that) i had a picture of shield with an "i" in it and when i clicked it, the update manager launched and said that there is 2 updates available, so i checked them and clicked install updates.
Every time it kept saying that security updates could not be installed.
Then i somehow got the idea of what "as root" meant.
Looked from google how to open update manager with terminal command and typed "sudo mintupdate"...
So, this time it did everything by the book and now i finally got the kernel update that i wanted so badly, although now conky is acting very strangely.
The system is now up to date but i'm wondering is it supposed to do like this or a'm i doing it the hard way?

[minitux]

Don't run mintupdate with sudo, but with

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gksudo mintupdate

And this output what say?

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groups

If with gksudo mintupdate work properly, try to Change the Exec= line in /usr/share/applications/mintupdate.desktop

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gksudo xed /usr/share/applications/mintupdate.desktop

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Exec=gksudo mintupdate

Save and close the file.

[Säteri]

Command groups gave this: jouko adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
Is that ok?

I allready ran those two updates by opening the update manager with command sudo mintupdate.
Should i now do something about it or is everything fine?

[Moem]

You're doing this the hard way. Normally, you click the shield, the updater starts, you select the updates and you give your password to authenticate. Then the update goes through.
Mintupdate is a graphical application, so here the same rule applies as with Synaptic: don't start it with sudo. If there is a reason why you must start it with elevated rights (which you don't generally need to do; it'll ask for a password if/when it needs one) then always use gksudo.

Sudo means 'as a SuperUser, DO this'. If you only want to say 'Do this', there is no need for sudo.

Try starting it with only mintupdate. Does it start?

[Säteri]

Rrrriiight...
Yes it open's the update manager window as it has always done.
It also open's when i click the shield sign and from menu--control center--administration--update manager.
The update manager also find's a list of updates, if there are any, but by doing like this i couldn't install any of the updates available.
Earlier today i opened the update manager with terminal command sudo mintupdate and i finally got those updates installed that way.
Since i've done that i changed the "exec=" line in the file with terminal into a form: exec= gksudo mintupdate.
After today's updates the update manager hasn't offered any updates so i don't know does it install updates or not.

I'm just wondering should i do something now that i launched update manager with sudo command and installed a new kernel?
Everything seem's to be just fine.....for now...

[Moem]

Yes it open's the update manager window as it has always done.

Okay, then I misread, sorry about that. I can't answer your question, I hope someone else can.

[Säteri]

My output may not be so clear because i'm from the promised land of racecar driver, finland.

[Spearmint2]

Then i somehow got the idea of what "as root" meant.

Ever watch on TV the show "Person of Interest"? Root rules all.

In the user settings it says that the type of id is custom...
However i can't change anything in user settings and i can't open the advanced settins.
It's obvious that i have done something wrong with these administrator/user account things but what?

You have more than one user profile on the system? It sounds like you may not have your profile assigned to the Administrator group, but if so, I doubt your password would have worked with sudo. Where you saw that, if you open with an administrator account, you can assign your profile username to be an Admin also. As for updates, just like other programs that can change the system, it will always ask for your password. That's one of the biggest methods of protection in Linux.

[Säteri]

I have only one profile.
I can open the users and groups window from menu--control center---administration--users and groups, but i can't change anything from there.
What's the command in terminal if i open users and groups in there with sudo command and then change the settings?
Is it ok to do that?

[kukamuumuka]

I have only one profile.
I can open the users and groups window from menu--control center---administration--users and groups, but i can't change anything from there.
What's the command in terminal if i open users and groups in there with sudo command and then change the settings?
Is it ok to do that?

You user and groups are ok, but you have some another problem. If you have opened graphical applications using sudo, it messes the permissions. To check your $HOME privileges, run

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find $HOME ! -user $USER -type f

An another issue can be that if you have disabled policykit from Startup Applications. To check if polkit is running, run

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(ps -ef|grep -v grep|grep polkit >/dev/null && echo ”running” || echo ”not running”)

[Säteri]

find: ”/home/jouko/.cache/dconf”: Lupa evätty
/home/jouko/.config/xed/accels
find: ”/home/jouko/.config/enchant”: Lupa evätty
That's what i got. What can i do to change that?

Policykit says it's running.

[Spearmint2]

you have dconf-editor installed? If so, maybe poking around in it will help you find the problem.

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gksu dconf-editor

[Säteri]

Probably not because that command did nothing?

[Spearmint2]

Probably not because that command did nothing?

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sudo apt-get install dconf-editor

So many changes can be made in it.

[Säteri]

It's now installed.
What am i looking for?