VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

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VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby AZgl1500 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:57 pm

I have been thinking about VirtualBox for quite a while, I have my laptop now totally formatted and on Mint 18.3 Cinnamon, but hey, there are things that live only in the Windows world that I need to use briefly....

I just looked at Software Manager and searched for VirtualBox and got more than a page full of options.

How in the world, is a Linux newbie supposed to know what is the Complete Package for my version of Mint? :?
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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby dark » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:02 am

Download .deb file for Ubuntu 16.04 from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads AMD64 if Linux Mint 18.3 is 64-bit.

Tutorial to use VirtualBox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prP2HWenpmQ

You can also use Gnome Boxes which is very easy to use and gives near native performance as it uses QEMU.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/12/gnom ... s-directly
sudo apt install gnome-boxes

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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby WharfRat » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:15 am

To install VB from the repo, virtualbox virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-ext-pack virtualbox-guest-additions-iso virtualbox-qt
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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby Cosmo. » Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:13 am

In case of VB (as the one big exception to the rule) the Windows way to install is also the recommended method for Mint: Download the needed file (it is really only one file, which is needed for installation), double click it and follow the dialogue.

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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby AZgl1500 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:49 pm

Thanks to all, and I see that I need to update my Signature to 64 bit.
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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby Cosmo. » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:04 pm

Better remove the specs from the signature, it is the wrong place. Some users do not see the signature at all, because the content is often wrong or simply waste of screen space. System specs belong into a post, usually into the starting post.

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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby davidmedin » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:20 pm

Make sure the installer creates the right groups (vboxusers and others) and puts your user account into them. Last time I installed VirtualBox from the Linux Mint repo it didn't. Manifested in me being unable to attach USB devices even after installing the guest additions.

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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby AZgl1500 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:31 pm

davidmedin wrote:Make sure the installer creates the right groups (vboxusers and others) and puts your user account into them. Last time I installed VirtualBox from the Linux Mint repo it didn't. Manifested in me being unable to attach USB devices even after installing the guest additions.


well, the "installer" will be me, no one within a 100 miles of me who knows Linux.

the only group I am concerned with is myself, no one else ever uses my equipment.

so, is there an actual need for me to create a group?
I am just now thinking that maybe so, have a 2nd user named 'Windows" and install VirtualBox inside that user's domain.

am I thinking right?

I am looking at the Admin's Users and Groups menu.
Do I want to create a new user, or just a special Group?

My foggy mind is thinking that I want something that I can just up and delete if a possible bad install ocurrs and can just go away with the deleted user/group. ??
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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby davidmedin » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:19 am

AZgl1500 wrote:
davidmedin wrote:Make sure the installer creates the right groups (vboxusers and others) and puts your user account into them. Last time I installed VirtualBox from the Linux Mint repo it didn't. Manifested in me being unable to attach USB devices even after installing the guest additions.


well, the "installer" will be me, no one within a 100 miles of me who knows Linux.

the only group I am concerned with is myself, no one else ever uses my equipment.

so, is there an actual need for me to create a group?
I am just now thinking that maybe so, have a 2nd user named 'Windows" and install VirtualBox inside that user's domain.

am I thinking right?

I am looking at the Admin's Users and Groups menu.
Do I want to create a new user, or just a special Group?

My foggy mind is thinking that I want something that I can just up and delete if a possible bad install ocurrs and can just go away with the deleted user/group. ??



My apologies - by installer I meant the installation routine of VirtualBox from the repo. (I still use Windows terminology for things in Linux)

I actually went and did things the hard way because I couldn't get VirtualBox from the official Linux Mint repo to work as I would like it.

So what I did was, roughly following the instructions here for Debian-based Linux - https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads - get it directly from source.

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to include this line:

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deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial contrib


Then add the keys

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sudo apt-key add oracle_vbox_2016.asc
sudo apt-key add oracle_vbox.asc


Install latest version

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sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install virtualbox-5.2


Add my account into the two necessary groups

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sudo usermod -aG  vboxsf,vboxusers david


Log out and log back in again.

Open VirtualBox, download and install the extensions pack when prompted.

Everything seems to work great and functionality is the same as in Windows.

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Re: VirtualBox - How do I know what to select for the install?

Postby AZgl1500 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:01 am

Thank for that detailed info.

I will print that out, and get on that tomorrow...
I am fighting the flu, or a cold??
whatever, don't feel so good right now.
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