4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

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4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Jeremy Mendes » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:27 pm

Currently in "rendering mode" I think it's called. I'd like to get new kernal running,if possible. Is there a solution for me and this 10yr old hp pavilion dv6700 special edition notebook?s
bbswitch, 0.8, 4.10.0-40-generic, x86_64: installed
bbswitch, 0.8, 4.10.0-42-generic, x86_64: installed
bbswitch, 0.8, 4.13.0-26-generic, x86_64: installed
ndiswrapper, 1.60, 4.10.0-40-generic, x86_64: installed
ndiswrapper, 1.60, 4.10.0-42-generic, x86_64: installed
nvidia-340, 340.102, 4.10.0-40-generic, x86_64: installed
nvidia-340, 340.102, 4.10.0-42-generic, x86_64: installed
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I can post my system/hardware info,too,if necessary.
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by mtj » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:01 pm

Try installing 4.4.0-109
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Jeremy Mendes » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:11 pm

It looks like I'm going to have to do just that. Kind of regressive,isn't it? I haven't been on Linux long enough to even have had that kernal active.

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Host: hppav Kernel: 4.13.0-26-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.4.6  Distro: Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: HP Pavilion dv6700 Notebook PC v: Rev 1
           Mobo: Quanta model: 30D2 v: 79.29
           Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: F.52 date: 03/24/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo T5550 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 1833 MHz 1: 1333 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G86M [GeForce 8400M GS]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia,vesa,nouveau (unloaded: fbdev)
           Resolution: 1024x768@61.00hz
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A
Audio:     Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-26-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
           driver: iwl3945
           IF: wlp2s0 state: down mac: 00:1f:3c:08:87:67
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169
           IF: enp6s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:1e:68:40:d3:fd
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (18.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: FUJITSU_MHY2250B size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 227G used: 39G (18%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 3.22GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 174 Uptime: 1:46 Memory: 1040.4/3000.9MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35 
[    0.077912] ACPI Error: [CDW1] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20170531/psargs-364)
[    0.077984] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed \_SB._OSC, AE_NOT_FOUND (20170531/psparse-550)
[    1.464412] RAS: Correctable Errors collector initialized.
[   19.667105] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[   80.866905] cinnamon[1998]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f3d3e67006e sp 00007fff1f34e2a0 error 4 in libc-2.23.so[7f3d3e5e2000+1c0000]
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Pjotr » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:19 pm

Jeremy Mendes wrote:It looks like I'm going to have to do just that. Kind of regressive,isn't it?
No, it's not. It's falling back to the highest quality: the LTS kernel. :mrgreen:
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Flemur » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:24 pm

Jeremy Mendes wrote:active.Host: hppav Kernel: 4.13.0-26-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
...
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G86M [GeForce 8400M GS]
See this post, and the "Edit2":
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=261366#p1412413

AFAIK, Cinnamon pretty-much requires the proprietary driver; but with fluxbox I don't see any difference. (Dunno about the xfce desktop).
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Jeremy Mendes » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:02 pm

4.4.0.109 it is,then.
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Atypical User » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:21 pm

I also attempted to update my LM 18.2/Cinnamon with the 4.10.0-42-generic kernel to the 4.13.0.26 kernel. During the install's compile phase, I briefly saw the message "ERROR! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.13.0-26-generic (x86_64)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/ndiswrapper/1.60/build/make.log for more information."


I didn't see enough of it, since default LM 18.2 lacks the 17.3 feature that left the update progress report window showing until I selected the close button. I finally found info via an online search; make.log is in /var/lib/dkms/ndiswrapper/1.60/build/ and term.log is in /var/log/apt/. The message shown above is in term.log, twice for the same install of 4.13.0-26-generic.

At this point I removed the new kernel and rebooted back into 4.10, something consistent with the general advice given so far (as of this post).

@Jeremy Mendes, looking at your first post shows the older ndiswrapper for 4.10.0-42-generic mixed in with the 4.13 update stuff, so it probably failed on your update as well. Your problem might still be video-driver related, but for those who don't have Nvidia cards (or those who get the driver update), an updated and working system might not mean a fixed system.

In make.log, I saw that some fix-related stuff was missing declarations, probably a header file mismatch. Another search showed the same make.log (save for minor language-specific differences) here: Ubuntu (Linux Mint) crash with HWE Kernel 4.13.0-26.

One thing I'm going to test: Since we also had some header information offered by Update Manager at the same time, that might need to be put into place via reboot before attempting to update the kernel. I'll try that, but I'm not that hopeful... Edit: No change. Same errors in make.log.
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Pjotr » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:45 pm

The ndiswrapper error is harmless and can safely be ignored.
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by bob466 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:16 am

You're not alone...seems many people are having the same problem.

I just updated kernel 4.10.0-42 to 4.13.0-26 and when I Re-Booted got a black screen that said...

[0.000000] [Firmware bug] TSC_Deadline disabled due to Errata: Please update Microcode to Version:0x22 (or later).

The massage above means nothing to me...but I do know how to fix it...just Rollback to 4.10.0-42. problem solved. This is not the first time I've had this problem...some time ago I updated the kernel and got no sound or Internet...one thing I do know...it's not my Computer.

It seems this Kernel problem only happens now and then...but you don't know when. I created a Restore point with Timeshift but couldn't get to the Desktop and when I did through the Grub Menu the Desktop icons were 10 times their normal size with no Menu...I look forward to the next kernel update. :roll:
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Pjotr » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:40 am

@bob466: well, you might try a microcode update first, before installing a newer kernel.
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by SteffenD » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:23 am

Ah, glad I'm not alone.

I get a "Cinnamon crashed" message after I got updated to Kernel 4.13.0-26
This is on 2 completely different systems (one over ten year old Dell Precision 690 with 2 Xeons and a GTX 780 and one brand new Threadripper system with a 1080Ti) that were both installed from scratch less than a month ago.
Both have been running perfectly with previous Kernels, the last one to work was 4.13.0-21. I then tried installing the 4.13.0-25 Kernel but it also fails. So it has nothing to do with the Spectre / Meltdown fixes it seems.

On both systems I use the proprietary nVidia drivers and the microcode for Intel / AMD respectively. Might that be related?
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by halw » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:49 pm

Got the following reply to a bug report filed yesterday evening.

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Would it be possible for you to test the latest upstream kernel? Refer
to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds . Please test the latest
v4.15 kernel[0].

If this bug is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following
tag 'kernel-fixed-upstream'.

If the mainline kernel does not fix this bug, please add the tag:
'kernel-bug-exists-upstream'.

Once testing of the upstream kernel is complete, please mark this bug as
"Confirmed".


Thanks in advance.
Probably won't do this myself as I have nvidia drivers installed and using wifi. Someone else may more easily be able to test the new kernel.

BTW, I'm using 18.3 however, from what I've read this does not seem to be a distro issue but a kernel problem.

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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by curtvaughan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:01 pm

I too crashed Cinnamon with kernel update to 4.13.026. Backing down to 4.10.0-42-generic got things working again. This was on a 15 month old HP Omen laptop:

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curt-linuxmint183 ~ # lshw -C video && inxi -Fx
  *-display               
       description: 3D controller
       product: GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M]
       vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
       physical id: 0
       bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
       version: a2
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
       resources: irq:130 memory:a3000000-a3ffffff memory:90000000-9fffffff memory:a0000000-a1ffffff ioport:4000(size=128) memory:a4000000-a407ffff
  *-display
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: Intel Corporation
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 2
       bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
       version: 06
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
       resources: irq:131 memory:a2000000-a2ffffff memory:b0000000-bfffffff ioport:5000(size=64) memory:c0000-dffff
System:    Host: curt-linuxmint183 Kernel: 4.10.0-42-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   System: HP (portable) product: OMEN by HP Laptop v: Type1ProductConfigId serial: 5CD6475NC0
           Mobo: HP model: 8257 v: 82.30 serial: PFYLR068J531AF
           Bios: Insyde v: F.23 date: 10/13/2016
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-6700HQ (-HT-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 20736
           clock speeds: max: 3500 MHz 1: 799 MHz 2: 799 MHz 3: 799 MHz
           4: 799 MHz 5: 799 MHz 6: 799 MHz 7: 799 MHz 8: 799 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Skylake Integrated Graphics bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: NVIDIA GM107M [GeForce GTX 960M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: nouveau
           tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card Intel Sunrise Point-H HD Audio
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.0-42-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 08:00.0
           IF: wlo1 state: up mac: d0:57:7b:b7:b4:48
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 3000 bus-ID: 09:00.0
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: c8:d3:ff:d4:74:95
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2128.4GB (4.1% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SanDisk_SD8SNAT size: 128.0GB temp: 33C
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST2000LM003_HN size: 2000.4GB temp: 28C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 52G used: 12G (23%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
           ID-2: /home size: 616G used: 41G (7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb2
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 17.06GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb6
           ID-4: swap-2 size: 17.06GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 33.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 245 Uptime: 22 min Memory: 1460.8/15934.8MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35 
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Jeremy Mendes » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:13 pm

All is well running 4.4.0-109. I have to initiate this kernal in Grub menu every time I boot,though. Boot will automatically choose most recent kernal unless specified otherwise. No big deal. Ran update today from Update Mngr. which included new version intel microcode 3.20180108.0~ ubuntu 16.04.2. I applied this while using 4.4.0-109.though. Should I have applied this update sequence today to 4.13.0-26 while in "rendering mode" or whatever it's called? :?
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Post by bob466 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:29 pm

Pjotr wrote:@bob466: well, you might try a microcode update first, before installing a newer kernel.
Updated Microcode to version 0.23...then Re-Installed Kernel 4.13.0-26. Re-Booted and got the Mint Black Screen of Death with the cursor flashing in the top left-hand corner but no massage this time. A rollback fixed it...so it wasn't the Microcode and since many others are having the same problem it's the Kernel for sure.
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Termy » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:38 am

Unfortunately, with how quickly people are pushing to mitigate Meltdown and Spectre, we'll get bugs until things are ironed out. I can't run any virtual machines either, because there's a (known) bug with VirtualBox (something to do with the dkms, I think) which causes the entire system to completely freeze whenever a VM is loaded. :? We'll just have to wait until things smooth out, I think.

Also, there was quite a serious security issue with (IIRC) kernels 4.4 and before, so I would opt for 4.8 or later. I think even with patching, it was something just inherently wrong with them. I think actually it affected 4.8 as well. I can't remember. Maybe it's somehow been patched up by now. Remember when most (Mint included) started to switch to 4.10 and/or 4.11? I think it was around then.
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by jayalan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:44 am

@Termy, you mentioned:
there's a (known) bug with VirtualBox
Would you happen to have a reference to this bug. I've been searching everywhere.
This VirtualBox freezing my Linux 18.3 system has completely killed my all my work, I'd appreciate it if I could follow the bug's progress.

In addition, I've also noticed a frequent freeze of the 18.3 system when I'm using Visual Studio Code. It's not crashing 100% of the time, or every time I launch Code, but it happens randomly enough that it makes the system unusable.

... here's hoping some patches are released soon.

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Post by Termy » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:56 am

Yeah, it sucks, doesn't it? It's really got in the way for me as well. :( Not only do I use VB in an effort to help people here and on YouTube, but I also need it to test my programs in different environments. :( I think we're just going to have to sit and wait for the kernel to be updated. Either that, or install/use an older kernel, at the risk of putting ourself in-front of the Meltdown and/or Spectre firing line. I'm not willing to do that just yet, however.

Looking here, this article suggests that kernel 4.4.0-108.131, for those on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, has some patching for Meltdown and/or Spectre, on which Mint is based; I dunno how I feel about that though, since that is such an old kernel series now, despite its patches. I think this would translate to this:

linux-image-4.4.0-108-generic - Linux kernel image for version 4.4.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP

But there's a new one after that, I'm seeing:

linux-image-4.4.0-109-generic - Linux kernel image for version 4.4.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP

Assuming of course that you use the generic type. You presumably being on Mint, I'd suggest opening up mintupdate (the update applet thing) and going on view, I think it is, then there's an option for kernel versions, allowing you to switch them out very easily.
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Re: 4.13.0.26 kernal update crashed LM 18.2 Cinnamon

Post by Pjotr » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:06 am

For the record: in my Linux Mint 18.3 everything still works well, both with VirtualBox and Nvidia:

- kernel 4.4.0-109 (which includes the Meltdown patch);
- latest intel-microcode;
- closed non-free nvidia-340 driver.

So apparently the 4.4 kernel doesn't have this problem with VirtualBox....
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