Should I try Cinnamon ?

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Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by Jørn Rudolph » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:15 pm

I hope it is alright, that I ask this question here in "Installation & Boot" ...

Well. Have installed MATE version of Linux Mint "Tara" 19 ...

Work fine. I normal prefer MATE ...
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But I was thinking, and wondering :
"Should I try Cinnamon version of Linux Mint "Tara" 19 ?
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What would you say, who use Cinnamon ?
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Yes. I know it is a matter of personal taste !
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What have Cinnamon to offer, that MATE do not have ?
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Or is there not much difference between those two versions. You would say ?
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I have 2GB Ram (And can not have more) It is the limit of my, rather old, PC.
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Will I have troubles and problems with Cinnamon run on 2 GB ? - Compared running MATE ?
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By the way :
Is MATE build on Cinnamon ? I mean - what came first. As basic ?
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Have a Fine Weekend. All of You.
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I hope it is OK, that I ask these question here in "Installation & Boot" ...
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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by Moem » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:20 pm

If I were you, I'd try it out from a USB stick... but I predict that it will be a bit on the heavy side for 2GB and it may well feel a bit slow and sluggish.
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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by jimallyn » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:34 pm

MATE is good on older computers with not much RAM and not much CPU. XFCE is even better. Cinnamon, not so much. My desktop (quad core i7, 12 GB RAM) at home runs 17.3 Cinnamon just fine. On my old laptop with much lower specs, I have 17.3 XFCE. I like it enough that when I upgrade to Mint 19 on my desktop, I am going to put XFCE on it, even though it has plenty of oomph for Cinnamon. I figure why use up a substantial portion of my CPU and RAM just for the OS and DE, when I could put XFCE on it and leave all that for the applications I run?
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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by lmuserx4849 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:33 pm

> Work fine. I normal prefer MATE ...

I have been using KDE (since 3), currently on 4/LM17.3, but since LM 19 won't be supporting KDE 5, I've been trying Mate. Friends have been using Mate on LMDE for years. I like KDE's plasma, and a few apps. I turn-off as much as possible, with the Searching, Akonadi, Desktop Effects.

> "Should I try Cinnamon version of Linux Mint "Tara" 19 ?

imho, absolutely - live, usb, virtual machine, anyway you can. Cinnamon is developed by the folks behind Linux Mint, so you know it is going to have a high priority and there is active development.

> What would you say, who use Cinnamon ?

I'd say users that are coming from Windows. Users that have newer hardware. Anyone who wants to use a GTK desktop, with a little more sparkle and features, but not GNOME 3. There are user https://cinnamon-spices.linuxmint.com/ extensions, themes.

They are separate projects, with separate development teams.
- History of Mate
- History of Cinnamon

> I have 2GB Ram (And can not have more) It is the limit of my, rather old, PC.

Highly recommend reading LM blog. It has a lot of good info
Linux Mint 19 “Tara” Xfce – BETA Release
June 4, 2018 by Linux Mint
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System requirements:

1GB RAM (2GB recommended for a comfortable usage).
15GB of disk space (20GB recommended).
1024×768 resolution (on lower resolutions, press ALT to drag windows with the mouse if they don’t fit in the screen).
https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3583

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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by Jørn Rudolph » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:41 am

Hey - Many Thanks for four fast reply !
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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by Jørn Rudolph » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:58 am

Moem, and others ...

If I want to try Cinnamon - From an USB stick .... : How shall I do it ? - I mean : What way do I install it and test it ?
Sorry. I have not tried that before ...
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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by Moem » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:44 am

I would not install it at all. I would download it, make a bootable USB stick, boot my computer from that and then test it like that. If it's too heavy for the hardware, you will know... and your current MATE installation will be intact.
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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by Hoser Rob » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:26 am

Jørn Rudolph wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:15 pm
... What would you say, who use Cinnamon ? ... Yes. I know it is a matter of personal taste ! ...
It's only a matter of personal taste if it's on a computer that has decent power and a good properly supported video card in Linux. If it's one of the many old machines that originally ran XP, Mate is probably better. If I was to install Cinnamon it'd be on a machine with a good 1GB video card with good Linux drivers.

CInnamon isn't my taste but if that's the type of thing you want I think it's better than the alternatives. As mentioned, dl a Mint Cinnamon live boot iso and test it form USB boot. Installing more than one desktop environment is a BAD idea that will usually break things in your OS, and the usual recommendation to fix that is a data backup and clean reinstall of the DE version you prefer.

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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by shawnhcorey » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:51 am

Sure, go ahead and try it.
  1. Use the Software Manager to install Cinnamon.
  2. Log out.
  3. Change the desktop to Cinnamon via the sessions menu.
  4. Log back in.
You are now running Cinnamon.

You can change your desktop back to the old one by:
  1. Log out.
  2. Select the old desktop.
  3. Log back in.
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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by Pepi » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:16 am

My machine is lightning fast with Cinnamon

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System:    Host: pepi-HP-Z600-Workstation Kernel: 4.4.0-128-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.7  Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Z600 Workstation
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 0AE8h v: C
           Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: 786G4 v03.21 date: 08/24/2011
CPU:       Quad core Intel Xeon E5540 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 2528 MHz 1: 1596 MHz 2: 1596 MHz 3: 1596 MHz 4: 1596 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G94GL [Quadro FX 1800]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
           Resolution: 1680x1050@59.95hz
           GLX Renderer: Quadro FX 1800/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.104
Audio:     Card Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-128-generic
Network:   Card: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3
           IF: enp1s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 78:e7:d1:c5:e3:4f
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1512.3GB (5.5% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST500DM002 size: 500.1GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST3500418AS size: 500.1GB
           ID-3: /dev/sdc model: Samsung_SSD_840 size: 256.1GB
           ID-4: /dev/sdd model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 256.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 229G used: 72G (33%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdd1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 6.42GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdd5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 48C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 205 Uptime: 1 day Memory: 1661.9/5947.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

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Re: Should I try Cinnamon ?

Post by briliath » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:52 pm

I would try the new Tara Cinnamon if I had at least 8G RAM, might even work fine on 4G but I don't know...

I use xfce in my old Acer Aspire one, which I've upgraded to 1.5G Ram.

The new Tara Cinnamon kicks ass, by the way. I'm diggin' it. I've found that Cinnamon has a few features that make things just a bit easier to accomplish.

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