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Rhythmbox cover art? Solved

Post by David1293 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:08 pm

Hi all
I would like to browse my music with the cover art icons.
It's checked in my preferences, but I can't find a way to display the album covers.
Is there an easy way to show them?
If not, would I be better off using a different music player?
I'm told Exaile is a low-resource music player, but I could never get it to work satisfactorily in the past.
If this requires use of the terminal, can I respectfully ask for baby steps?
Thanks
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by Edison » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:56 am

David,

If you find an answer to this I would appreciate knowing-- I have the same issue.
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by Moem » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:14 am

Edison, I'd suggest you subscribe to the thread. There's an option for that in the drop down menu below every thread, it's the spanner icon.
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by Turtletronic » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:59 am

Rhythmbox does not allow the display per album art, it only uses the album cover (per track) in the play bar; that is however only one of its main drawbacks. As you can see from my signature I am not a friend of such commonly overpraised, outdated, and useless programs. Some White Knights might disagree, but so far not one came up with a truly usable alternative.

At work I have to use the Windows tools MusicBee, mp3tag, and TagScan so their functionality, ease of use, and flexibility is a goal Linux tools should at least try to achieve. Don't get me wrong, I hate Windows with a reason. But in this case the tools provided in the Linux world are way, way behind. Looking at taggers one could just about live with PuddleTag. One would have to cut back on a few functions and ignore the slow processing speed, but it's still better than many other Linux taggers. And Audacious does a pretty good job as simple player, too.

GFXPlayers/Libraries. Thin air for Linux. Exaile is - as you noted - not the best choice (and it sucks even more on Windows). A basic alternative would be Lollypop even if it's sometimes hard to install/compile. WARNING: former main page (gnumdk.github.io/lollypop-web/) only shows some Free Phone Numbers crap now; try Cédric Bellegarde's https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk/+archive/ubuntu/lollypop instead.
My music library includes 57,139 tracks. My advice? Forget Amarok, Banshee, Clementine or Rhythmbox.

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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by CtrlAltDel » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:05 pm

David1293 wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:08 pm
Hi all
I would like to browse my music with the cover art icons.
It's checked in my preferences, but I can't find a way to display the album covers.
Is there an easy way to show them?
If not, would I be better off using a different music player?
I'm told Exaile is a low-resource music player, but I could never get it to work satisfactorily in the past.
If this requires use of the terminal, can I respectfully ask for baby steps?
Thanks
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by Turtletronic » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:04 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:05 pm
Banshee allows you to do what you wish.
Outdated (4 years old). Slow. Regular crashes with various OS. Folder hierarchy/Album settings tear apart tracks with collabs & featured artists ('&', 'feat.', etc.), moving them into single 'folders' whatever you do, even if you really adapt your music folders and data to comply with the non-standard settings of Banshee. Problems with full Unicode support. Disrespects track/media numbers and varying album/track years. Also has massive problems with handling and (re)scanning Album images (e.g. standard cover.jpg in folders, some encased examples) often leaving you with having to double-click on each album to force-load the album image (again).

TL;DR: Banshee? Useless.
My music library includes 57,139 tracks. My advice? Forget Amarok, Banshee, Clementine or Rhythmbox.

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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by Edison » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:45 pm

Banshee always worked for me, however LM 19 broke it. It crashes now when importing music.
But then again, I'm not a real audiophile. I have maybe 400-500 tracks. I do like that I can
plugin radio stations quite easily with Banshee. I hope the problem is resolved soon.

Have you tried Clementine, David?
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by CtrlAltDel » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:55 pm

Turtletronic wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:04 pm
CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:05 pm
Banshee allows you to do what you wish.
Outdated (4 years old). Slow. Regular crashes with various OS. Folder hierarchy/Album settings tear apart tracks with collabs & featured artists ('&', 'feat.', etc.), moving them into single 'folders' whatever you do, even if you really adapt your music folders and data to comply with the non-standard settings of Banshee. Problems with full Unicode support. Disrespects track/media numbers and varying album/track years. Also has massive problems with handling and (re)scanning Album images (e.g. standard cover.jpg in folders, some encased examples) often leaving you with having to double-click on each album to force-load the album image (again).

TL;DR: Banshee? Useless.
Banshee does exactly what the OP was asking for recommendations to do, which is browse his music collection by cover art. You recommend Lollypop, which had a dead web page, isn't listed in the Mint repositories for some reason that is probably valid, and requires a ppa which installs a FlatPak, which you did not care to mention. Some people don't like the Flatpak architecture because it easily doubles, trebles, quadruples the sizes of your Timeshift images because they are so large in size.

There are pro's and con's to every piece of software. I merely presented a solution to the OP's question and did not state in any way that Banshee was a panacea for every single issue someone can find with each individual music player.

Your complete disregard, labeling it useless, for an valid answer is a bit melodramatic.
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by CtrlAltDel » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:00 pm

Edison wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:45 pm
Banshee always worked for me, however LM 19 broke it. It crashes now when importing music.
But then again, I'm not a real audiophile. I have maybe 400-500 tracks. I do like that I can
plugin radio stations quite easily with Banshee. I hope the problem is resolved soon.

Have you tried Clementine, David?
You can't browse your music collection using a cover art category with Clementine.
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by Edison » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:18 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:00 pm
You can't browse your music collection using a cover art category with Clementine.
Disappointing. I liked Banshee and would love it if the developers resolved the problem.
I didn't have the problem on LM 18.3, but as I mentioned, it crashes in LM 19.
In my earlier post I misspoke and said LM 19 broke it-- I should have said that it
broke in LM 19. I don't know what the actual cause it. Apologies.
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by CtrlAltDel » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:22 pm

Edison wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:18 pm
CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:00 pm
You can't browse your music collection using a cover art category with Clementine.
Disappointing. I liked Banshee and would love it if the developers resolved the problem.
I didn't have the problem on LM 18.3, but as I mentioned, it crashes in LM 19.
In my earlier post I misspoke and said LM 19 broke it-- I should have said that it
broke in LM 19. I don't know what the actual cause it. Apologies.
Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling it in Synaptic? Who knows if that would work but, why not give it a try?
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by Edison » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:44 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:22 pm
Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling it in Synaptic? Who knows if that would work but, why not give it a try?
Good idea, but I just tried it and the same issue presents itself.
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by smurphos » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:39 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:55 pm
You recommend Lollypop, which had a dead web page, isn't listed in the Mint repositories for some reason that is probably valid, and requires a ppa which installs a FlatPak, which you did not care to mention.
What makes you think the Lollypop PPA installs a flatpak? It installs a Deb same as any other PPA.

Lollypop is also available in the Software Manager as a flatpak - irrespective of whether you add the PPA or not. The PPA version is newer that the Flatpak

No particular axe to grind in any direction here but lollypop may not have a nice web page but it is in current development (last PPA builds seven hours ago), the PPA is maintained by the app author and the source is freely available on the Gnome gitlab - https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/lollypop/tags, and it's got a nice landing page on the Gnome wiki. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Lollypop

So no reason to be suspicious.

If installing the PPA version it be sure to install the recommended package python3-pylast. It's supposed to be a depend so that's a packaging error. Music import hangs without it.

It's a nice player.

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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by David1293 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:47 pm

Hi all
Many thanks for the many replies. I've been extremely busy with work, hence the delay in replying. It seems there is much disagreement, except that this function is problematic, to say the least.
So, should I go back to Banshee, or is it truly broken in Mint 19.? Try another player? Has anyone managed to get lyrics to work with Exaile? The program notes say that it can do this, but I've had no success.
Failing that, is there another player that could be made to do what I would like, i.e. display cover art and allow me to browse my music library this way?

I forgot to put that I'm using Mint Mate 19.
Thanks again for the replies
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by phd21 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:42 pm

HI David1293,

It would help to know more about your system setup. If you run "inxi -Fxzd" from the console terminal prompt, highlight the results, copy and paste them back here, that should provide enough information.

There are a lot of very good to excellent music applications that can be installed and used in Linux Mint with cover art options.

+1 for Audacious, newer versions (3.10) from PPA even for Linux Mint 19.x

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8

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sudo apt-get update

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sudo apt install audacious audacious-plugins

"Amarok" is still my favorite.
Rythmbox has 2 PPA's one for the player and another for various plug-ins which may provide more functionality, buyt not sure will work with the new Linux Mint 19 yet.

How to Install Rhythmbox (V3.4.2) on Ubuntu via PPA
https://www.ubuntupit.com/install-rhyth ... u-via-ppa/

Rhythmbox third-party plugins : fossfreedom
https://launchpad.net/~fossfreedom/+arc ... ox-plugins
Qmmp releases : Ilya Kotov
https://launchpad.net/~forkotov02/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:forkotov02/ppa

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sudo apt-get update

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sudo apt-get install qmmp qmmp-plugin-pack

"Sayonara" might be a music app you might like.

Sayonara is A Beautiful Lightweight Music Player for Linux | It's FOSS
https://itsfoss.com/sayonara-music-player/

Sayonara Player Official Site - Home
https://sayonara-player.com/


"Guayadeque" Music Player
http://www.guayadeque.org/

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:anonbeat/guayadeque

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sudo apt-get update

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sudo apt install guayadeque

6 Music Players for Linux that You might not have Heard of | It's FOSS
https://itsfoss.com/lesser-known-music-players-linux/

Lollypop - Linux Mint 19.x 64-bit or 32-bit
https://launchpad.net/~gnumdk/+archive/ ... ic_all.deb

"Yarock" link for Linux Mint 18.x and 19.x
64-bit
https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+ar ... _amd64.deb
32-bit
https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+ar ... 2_i386.deb

Musique
64-bit
https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+ar ... _amd64.deb
32-bit
https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+ar ... l_i386.deb


Hope this helps ...
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by CtrlAltDel » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:54 am

smurphos wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:39 am

No particular axe to grind in any direction here but lollypop may not have a nice web page but it is in current development (last PPA builds seven hours ago), the PPA is maintained by the app author and the source is freely available on the Gnome gitlab - https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/lollypop/tags, and it's got a nice landing page on the Gnome wiki. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Lollypop

So no reason to be suspicious.

If installing the PPA version it be sure to install the recommended package python3-pylast. It's supposed to be a depend so that's a packaging error. Music import hangs without it.

It's a nice player.
There a few problems with this player and maybe that is why it's not included in the repositories. One of them is this:
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Installing kid3-cli doesn't work and there seems to be no way to correct it; the message remains.

Couldn't get network access to work either. Tried it, too many issues for me that I don't have the time to hassle with, uninstalled it.
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by phd21 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:21 pm

Hi David1293, CtrlAltDel, and Everyone Else.

Last night I booted into Linux Mint Cinnamon 19 (64-bit) and was able to install all of the music apps including Lollypop (using their PPA or the deb file) also installed "kid3-cli" and they all worked fine. I updated my previous reply to include download links and more info.

Today I booted into Linux Mint Mate 19 (64-bit) and installed Lollypop (using their PPA or the deb file) also installed "kid3-cli" and they all worked fine. I still get the message in the Lollypop preference tab to install "kid3-cli" even though it is already installed, but it seems to be working very well regardless of that message which you only see in the preferences.


Hope this helps ...
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by David1293 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:01 pm

Hi, all

Many thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate it.
In response to phd21, my system is as follows:

System: Host: Ancholme Kernel: 4.15.0-20-generic x86_64
bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
Desktop: MATE 1.20.1 (Gtk 3.22.30-1ubuntu1)
Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: ASRock model: Z97 Anniversary serial: N/A
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P1.40 date: 01/16/2015
Battery hidpp__0: charge: 100% condition: NA/NA Wh
model: Logitech M570 status: Discharging
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-4790 (-MT-MCP-)
arch: Haswell rev.3 cache: 8192 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 28790
clock speeds: max: 4000 MHz 1: 2076 MHz 2: 2305 MHz 3: 2514 MHz
4: 1963 MHz 5: 2218 MHz 6: 1903 MHz 7: 1888 MHz 8: 1890 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] bus-ID: 01:00.0
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: NV137 version: 4.3 Mesa 18.0.5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio: Card-1 Intel 9 Series Family HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Card-2 NVIDIA GP107GL High Def. Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1
Card-3 Logitech Webcam C270 driver: USB Audio usb-ID: 003-002
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-20-generic
Network: Card: Intel Ethernet Connection (2) I218-V
driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: f040 bus-ID: 00:19.0
IF: enp0s25 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 10002.0GB (21.9% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST3000DM001 size: 3000.6GB
ID-2: USB /dev/sdc model: Expansion_Desk size: 5001.0GB
ID-3: USB /dev/sdd model: External_USB_3.0 size: 2000.4GB
Optical-1: /dev/sr0 model: ASUS BC-12D2HT
rev: 1.00 dev-links: cdrom,dvd,dvdrw
Features: speed: 1x multisession: yes
audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running
Optical-2: /dev/sr1 model: ATAPI iHAS122 F
rev: EL04 dev-links: cdrw
Features: speed: 48x multisession: yes
audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running
Partition: ID-1: / size: 2.7T used: 38G (2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 39.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 37.0
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 239 Uptime: 2:04 Memory: 1376.9/15991.5MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56
Hope this helps. I'm wondering about Amarok, but also wonder if it might slow down my system, which at the moment is pretty fast.
I'll take a look at all of these, and when I've decided on my favourite, maybe do a clean install? Or should I avail myself of timeshift?
Thanks again
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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by phd21 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:04 pm

Hi David1293,

You are welcome from all of us replying to your post...

- I do not see anything wrong with the results of the "inxi -Fxzd" console terminal command, so that is a good thing. Except, that you are not using the nVidia video card driver for your nVidia "GeForce GTX 1050 Ti" video card instead you are using the default "nouveau" driver. You would probably get much better video and graphics using their drivers. Looks like a nice computer.

NVIDIA: how to install the latest video card drivers - Easy Linux tips project
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/12

To install this using the PPA method, open a console terminal, type in, or copy & paste, each line below one by one: Click "Select All" above command, right click the highlighted command, select Copy (or Ctrl+Insert), click in the console terminal window, and right click paste (or Shift+Insert or "ctrl+Shift+v"), repeat for each command, restart computer afterward.

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sudo apt-get purge nvidia*

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

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sudo apt-get update

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sudo apt-get install nvidia-390

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David1293 wrote:I'm wondering about Amarok, but also wonder if it might slow down my system, which at the moment is pretty fast. I'll take a look at all of these, and when I've decided on my favourite, maybe do a clean install? Or should I avail myself of timeshift?Thanks again D
I always have more than one music application (most of them) installed because of various features and testing them for others, sometimes just for using something different. You have a fast computer with good amount of system memory (ram), so none of the music applications should slow your system down.

"Amarok" is still my favorite music application because it is the most complete music app I know of and has so many features and you can add more in its configure preferences. But Amarok does use more resources than other music apps like Audacious, and it can take a little longer to come up if you have a lot of Internet streaming stations although once it is up and running it is quick. So, if I don't already have a music app running, and I want to play something quickly, I use Audacious, Qmmp, or one of the others. Clementine and "exaile" are offshoots of Amarok. I have not seen any new updates for Amarok lately nor do I know if it is being maintained, but I do hope the Amarok project is not abandoned because it is a wonderful music management player app.

Why do you think you need to do a clean "fresh" install, or restore a "timeshift" backup? Not that there is anything wrong with doing a clean fresh install or restoring a timeshift backup.

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Re: Rhythmbox cover art?

Post by David1293 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:45 pm

Hi, all
Thank you for the replies.
I am wondering if Audacious might be the answer to my needs, as I do want a light and fast system. But, I am definitely open to persuasion.
I had just reinstalled, but have now adopted the nVidia driver.
There have been so many replies that frankly I am almost overwhelmed by the possibilities. I really appreciate that people would take time to reply.
I thought maybe time shift might be needed if I installed and needed to remove a repository- I had tried to install get-iplayer, which doesn't seem to be working in Mint 19, so I had a redundant repository.
Anyway, thank you for all the people who have taken the time to reply.
Regards
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