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Understanding Linux Mint Versions [SOLVED]

Post by Mintywav » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:45 pm

How does one tell just what version one is on?? My System monitor just says 18 Sarah
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Moem » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:50 pm

Mintywav wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:45 pm
My System monitor just says 18 Sarah
If that's what your System Info (I'm guessing) says, then that is probably what you're on. Any reason why it would not be?

Mine doesn't give the code name... it says Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon 64-bit.
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by all41 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 12:55 pm

Hi Mintywav,
Welcome to the forum

Just hover over the Menu icon in the panel

edit: This only works for MATE
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by I2k4 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:44 pm

Instead of "System Monitor" try "System Info" for more detail - in Mint Cinnamon for some (strange) reason it's under Preferences rather than Administration. Also shows up if you type "sys" in the Menu search box. Not sure about other Desktop Environments.
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Mintywav » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:54 pm

Thanks for the replies folk!

Where would System Info be for Matte?

And assuming I am at 18 and want to go to 18.3 why would Update Manager not give me that option? or am I looking in the wrong place?

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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Odysseys » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:07 pm

'sudo apt install screenfetch' and you get nice info in your terminal. :)
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Mintywav » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:12 pm

Update I found Sysinfo .7 to install and it shows the other 5 categories of info but 'crashes' closes when I select System. :( mmm

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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Mintywav » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:16 pm

Odysseys wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:07 pm
'sudo apt install screenfetch' and you get nice info in your terminal. :)
Ok did that and it says just Mint 18 Sarah kernel 4.4.9-21

So I guess I still want to know how to upgrade from 18 to 18.3 ..

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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by all41 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:18 pm

Mintywav wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:54 pm
Thanks for the replies folk!

Where would System Info be for Matte?

And assuming I am at 18 and want to go to 18.3 why would Update Manager not give me that option? or am I looking in the wrong place?
The system info can be viewed by opening a terminal and entering:

Code: Select all

inxi -S
If you have Mint 18 Sarah that has not been updated you will most likely need to apply updates for the Update Manager before it will show you an upgrade path.
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Odysseys » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:19 pm

Mintywav wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:54 pm
And assuming I am at 18 and want to go to 18.3 why would Update Manager not give me that option? or am I looking in the wrong place?
I assume you cannot update that way? If I recall it right, you can only update one version ahead?
And my opinion is that it's always better to do clean install, than update. Just my opinion, don't shoot me.
When you make first installation, make sure you make at least three (3) partitions on your hard drive: '/', 'home' and 'swap'. Then, when you need to make fresh install, you only need to format '/'-partition, not your 'home' partition. In that way you dont lose you data, or personal preferences at all.
But remember that it's always good idea to have fresh and working backup from your personal data before you install new system. Just in case.. :roll:
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by all41 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:31 pm

When 18 Sarah was released the Update Manager did not include an Upgrade path
because there were no newer releases to upgrade to.
After 18.1 Serena was released updates to Sarah Update Manager included a path to
Upgrade.
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by sueede » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:36 pm

Upgrade one step at a time - 18 and 18.1-> 18.2 18.2-> 18.3
Start down below.
blog.linuxmint.com/?s=upgrade+18.1+to+18.2&submit=Search

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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Mintywav » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:01 pm

Ok guys learning here thanks.
So except for some thing called poppler which is for pdfs update manager (mintupdate 5.1.0.6)
says I am up to date. If I need to update update manager how do i do that??

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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Moem » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:01 pm

I'd start here: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3185 How to upgrade to Linux Mint 18.1
Then https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3306 How to upgrade to Linux Mint 18.2
And then https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3462 How to upgrade to Linux Mint 18.3
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by all41 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:08 pm

Mintywav wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:01 pm
Ok guys learning here thanks.
So except for some thing called poppler which is for pdfs update manager (mintupdate 5.1.0.6)
says I am up to date. If I need to update update manager how do i do that??
There should be two updates offered.
mintupdate 5.1.0.6
and
mint-upgrade-info

After those updates Update Manager/Edit (in the toolbar) will display
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Mintywav » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:53 pm

Thanks everybody especially moem and all41 for the ref to the actual technique, under Edit? really :? :roll: :shock:
That has to be under the category of Hidden in Plain Sight :mrgreen:

Now I am still wondering why sysinfo crashes, but oh well.

Edit
oh moem are you saying do it in 3 steps ? I am only offered the upgrade to 18.3 there.

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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by all41 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:00 pm

It was mentioned earlier in this thread and still pertinent with any system upgrade--
Backup your stuff and verify the backup prior to proceeding.
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Mintywav » Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:14 pm

Odysseys wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:19 pm

I assume you cannot update that way? If I recall it right, you can only update one version ahead?
And my opinion is that it's always better to do clean install, than update. Just my opinion, don't shoot me.
When you make first installation, make sure you make at least three (3) partitions on your hard drive: '/', 'home' and 'swap'. Then, when you need to make fresh install, you only need to format '/'-partition, not your 'home' partition. In that way you dont lose you data, or personal preferences at all.
But remember that it's always good idea to have fresh and working backup from your personal data before you install new system. Just in case.. :roll:
Got the 3 partitions, actually 4 with 1 fat32 for data on a dual boot situation.
As I am not using this for a 'work horse' as long as I do not make a mess of the other disks (as Windows 10 has done to me several times) I am ok. I would like to keep everything I have managed to set up. Is there nothing I am likely to lose doing a clean install with that technique? What must I set up after wards to get back a working OS with my user intact?
Actually that is something I can search for on my own. Thanks again.

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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions

Post by Moem » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:00 am

Mintywav wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:14 pm
I would like to keep everything I have managed to set up. Is there nothing I am likely to lose doing a clean install with that technique? What must I set up after wards to get back a working OS with my user intact?
Doing an upgrade through the Update Manager should leave your user account, files and applications intact. I would nevertheless make a backup of important files just in case. That's always good to have after all.

This is not a clean install, it's an upgrade. It's pretty safe. There should not be anything to set up afterwards.
Mintywav wrote:
Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:53 pm
I am only offered the upgrade to 18.3 there.
Since that's what's being offered, I would go for that. I thought you would need to go step by step but I may have misremembered.
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Re: Understanding Linux Mint Versions [SOLVED]

Post by tenfoot » Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:08 am

Using v19.0 Mate currently. But I have used the following method on all my new installations.

I always do a new install for updated versions of LM. To retain my config files, I copy the following hidden files to an external hard drive

.gemini (my email client), .gramps, .local (which contains several hidden files of applications I use), .moonchildproductions (palemoon web browser), .mozilla (Firefox), .thunderbird (my wife's email client)

and then copy them to /home/<username> after the new install.

Remember, though, if you have launched any of the apps listed above, you will have to rename them (or you will get a message telling you the file already exists)

All the data I produce on the computer is saved to my /media/Data drive.
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