difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

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ieee488
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difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

Post by ieee488 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:21 pm

I am able to boot into the live USB within a minute but I need to use boot option of video=SVIDEO-1:d

After installing Linux Mint 19 xfce, I added that parameter to grub and ran sudo update-grub.
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash video=SVIDEO-1:d"
But the boot up is now just as long as without the parameter.

Am I doing something wrong?
Do I need to do something else?

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Re: difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

Post by gm10 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:00 pm

You might have added it in the wrong place, check how you actually booted:

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cat /proc/cmdline
Also your installed Linux Mint is using updated software and kernel versions (at least you should update it all via Update Manager) and possibly different drivers, so that may make a difference.

That why please accompany all support requests with the output of this terminal command so we don't have to guess:

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inxi -Fxz
Also to see your boot times this would be helpful:

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systemd-analyze;systemd-analyze blame

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Re: difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

Post by ieee488 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:57 pm

result of cat /proc/cmdline

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user1@HP-Compaq-2710p:~$ cat /proc/cmdline
BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-20-generic root=UUID=9d5e2052-4921-40e6-821e-b15570a564b3 ro video=SVIDEO-1:d splash
user1@HP-Compaq-2710p:~$ 
result of systemd-analyze blame

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  4.695s networkd-dispatcher.service
          4.616s ModemManager.service
          4.289s udisks2.service
          4.151s dev-sda1.device
          3.796s accounts-daemon.service
          3.640s ubuntu-system-adjustments.service
          3.304s NetworkManager.service
          2.969s alsa-restore.service
          2.358s lightdm.service
          2.354s plymouth-quit-wait.service
          2.209s avahi-daemon.service
          2.183s grub-common.service
          2.177s apport.service
          2.041s hddtemp.service
          1.897s polkit.service
          1.897s thermald.service
          1.869s speech-dispatcher.service
          1.841s systemd-rfkill.service
          1.646s apparmor.service
          1.606s rsyslog.service
          1.377s keyboard-setup.service
          1.277s kerneloops.service
          1.240s systemd-logind.service


result of inxi -Fxz

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System:    Host: HP-Compaq-2710p Kernel: 4.15.0-20-generic i686
           bits: 32 gcc: 7.3.0
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.31) Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 2710p v: F.20 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30C8 v: KBC Version 74.3A serial: N/A
           BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MOU Ver. F.20 date: 12/08/2011
Battery    C23F: charge: 0.0 Wh 0.0% condition: 40.5/40.5 Wh (100%)
           model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: N/A
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo U7600 (-MCP-) 
           arch: Conroe rev.13 cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 4788
           clock speeds: max: 1201 MHz 1: 1197 MHz 2: 1197 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary)
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
           drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x800@58.48hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2
           version: 2.1 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-20-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection
           driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 4020 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: enp0s25 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection
           driver: iwl4965 v: in-tree: bus-ID: 10:00.0
           IF: wlp16s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 124.2GB (11.2% used)
           ID-1: USB /dev/sda model: Ultra size: 124.2GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 106G used: 5.1G (6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.87GB used: 0.00GB (0%)
           fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0C mobo: 20.0C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 165 Uptime: 7 min Memory: 626.4/2004.2MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56 

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Re: difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

Post by gm10 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:33 pm

Well, the kernel option is in place, so that's not it. You didn't give us the systemd-analyze output (you included only the blame part) so it's not clear how long the kernel actually hangs, but your inxi output shows that you didn't install any updates, so maybe try that first, that might just fix it.

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Re: difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

Post by ieee488 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:10 am

gm10 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:33 pm
Well, the kernel option is in place, so that's not it. You didn't give us the systemd-analyze output (you included only the blame part) so it's not clear how long the kernel actually hangs, but your inxi output shows that you didn't install any updates, so maybe try that first, that might just fix it.
You told me to give you the systemd-analyze blame part !
That is the top of the output.


I updated the kernel to the latest. Did not help.

Created live USB of 18.3 which booted fairly quickly.
Installation of 18.3 boots just as slowly as 19.


It appears from Googling I have done this slow boot is a problem with 19.


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Re: difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

Post by catweazel » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:13 am

ieee488 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:10 am
It appears from Googling I have done this slow boot is a problem with 19.
The problem isn't Mint 19 per se. It's this:
ieee488 wrote:

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BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MOU Ver. F.20 date: 12/08/2011
It's getting old.
"There is, ultimately, only one truth -- cogito, ergo sum -- everything else is an assumption." - Me, my swansong.

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Re: difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

Post by gm10 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:19 am

ieee488 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:10 am
You told me to give you the systemd-analyze blame part !
That is the top of the output.
That I did, but not only, those were two commands on one line:
gm10 wrote:
Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:00 pm
Also to see your boot times this would be helpful:

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systemd-analyze;systemd-analyze blame
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ieee488 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:10 am
I updated the kernel to the latest. Did not help.

Created live USB of 18.3 which booted fairly quickly.
Installation of 18.3 boots just as slowly as 19.
Hmm. You sure it's about that graphics parameter then? Sounds more like your HDD is slower than your USB or something like that.

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Re: difference between live USB and installed Linux Mint

Post by ieee488 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:20 am

catweazel wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:13 am
ieee488 wrote:
Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:10 am
It appears from Googling I have done this slow boot is a problem with 19.
The problem isn't Mint 19 per se. It's this:
ieee488 wrote:

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BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68MOU Ver. F.20 date: 12/08/2011
It's getting old.
It is fine when booting from live USB of 19 !


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