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[SOLVED] [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:33 am
by Joan_2018
Hi all,

I am coming from MacOSX, little by little, and searching the best Photos software management. In your opinion, which is the best to organizing/editing them ?

Best regards,

Joan

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:47 am
by Turtletronic
Also consider XNView MP, digiKam, or Darktable.
Personal experience for my personal needs shows that XNView MP was more stable than Shotwell when it came to huge amounts (20k) of tagged TIF files.

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:13 am
by cliffcoggin
I find Pix more than adequate for arranging photos. For editing I use Fottox which gives me the three features I want: cropping, brightness changes, and text insertion. If you want a Photoshop equivalent then try GIMP.

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:26 am
by BenTrabetere
My workflow consists of an image viewer, darktable, GIMP, ImageMagick, and digiKam.

I use an image viewer as a light table, to review and cull images quickly. I switch between using Geeqie and XnView MP, and currently Geeqie is my default for this work. I like, use and recommend both programs.

darktable is my RAW developer. I also use RAWTherapee, but I prefer darktable. Most of my processing is done in darktable.

GIMP is for editing and final processing, and very few of my photos get this treatment. Before I dumped it cold turkey about two years ago, I only used Photoshop to process and edit images; now I use only darktable.

I use ImageMagick to create a contact print, to reduce the size of images, to convert to another format, and to create a PDF "slideshow".

Finally, I use digiKam for image management. It can also be used to process and edit photos, but I only use it to manage my photos. For more information and downloads, see www.digikam.org. Download the AppImage, make it executable, and run.

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:10 pm
by wallyUSA
You might want to try xnviewmp from xnview.com.
Awesome software:photo viewer, image resizer, batch image converter and more!
Works on (Windows/MacOSX/Linux).

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:03 pm
by Joan_2018
Many thanks to all. I will keep an eye to all these softwares and take conclusions.

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:07 pm
by Moem
wallyUSA wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:10 pm
You might want to try xnviewmp form xnview.com.
Awesome software:photo viewer, image resizer, batch image converter and more!
Seconded. Amazingly good. It's in the software manager too.

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:44 am
by BenTrabetere
Moem wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:07 pm
wallyUSA wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:10 pm
You might want to try xnviewmp form xnview.com.
Awesome software:photo viewer, image resizer, batch image converter and more!
Seconded. Amazingly good. It's in the software manager too.
I am pretty sure XnViewMP is not in the default repositories. If it is showing up in Software Manager for you I suspect ppa:dhor/myway is in your sources. It is the PPA for a lot of photography-related tools: Converseen, Geeqie, RawTherapee, and Shutter, to name a few. I recommend it.

A snap package for an earlier version is available from the snapcraft store, https://snapcraft.io/xnviewmp, but I have a hard time recommending it as a snap, let alone a 3rd party snap.

To the OP, you can download XnView MP from https://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/. (Or you can add the PPA.)

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:44 am
by Moem
BenTrabetere wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:44 am
I am pretty sure XnViewMP is not in the default repositories. If it is showing up in Software Manager for you I suspect ppa:dhor/myway is in your sources. It is the PPA for a lot of photography-related tools: Converseen, Geeqie, RawTherapee, and Shutter, to name a few. I recommend it.
It's in my software manager, and I don't have that PPA. :?

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:50 am
by cliffcoggin
Moem wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:44 am

It's in my software manager, and I don't have that PPA. :?
Perhaps you use Mint 19 because it is not in Mint18.3 repository.

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:12 pm
by br1anstorm
cliffcoggin wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:50 am
Moem wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:44 am

It's in my software manager, and I don't have that PPA. :?
Perhaps you use Mint 19 because it is not in Mint18.3 repository.
This raises an interesting point. I have Mint 17.3 and 18.2 on my computers. I try to rely only on software from the Mint repository, mainly for reliability/security reasons. If new apps are added (say in the Mint 19 software manager) can they not be retrospectively added also to the software managers of other, previous, recent versions like 18.x or 17.x too? Or would that just be too difficult?

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:31 pm
by kevin987
br1anstorm wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:12 pm
cliffcoggin wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:50 am
Moem wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:44 am

It's in my software manager, and I don't have that PPA. :?
Perhaps you use Mint 19 because it is not in Mint18.3 repository.
This raises an interesting point. I have Mint 17.3 and 18.2 on my computers. I try to rely only on software from the Mint repository, mainly for reliability/security reasons. If new apps are added (say in the Mint 19 software manager) can they not be retrospectively added also to the software managers of other, previous, recent versions like 18.x or 17.x too? Or would that just be too difficult?
There could be dependency issues with the older versions of Mint.

This may be why Mint 17.x won't offer Chromium past version 65 for instance, when the latest is 71.

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:21 pm
by adrenalina
BenTrabetere wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:26 am
My workflow consists of an image viewer, darktable, GIMP, ImageMagick, and digiKam.

I use an image viewer as a light table, to review and cull images quickly. I switch between using Geeqie and XnView MP, and currently Geeqie is my default for this work. I like, use and recommend both programs.

darktable is my RAW developer. I also use RAWTherapee, but I prefer darktable. Most of my processing is done in darktable.

GIMP is for editing and final processing, and very few of my photos get this treatment. Before I dumped it cold turkey about two years ago, I only used Photoshop to process and edit images; now I use only darktable.

I use ImageMagick to create a contact print, to reduce the size of images, to convert to another format, and to create a PDF "slideshow".

Finally, I use digiKam for image management. It can also be used to process and edit photos, but I only use it to manage my photos. For more information and downloads, see www.digikam.org. Download the AppImage, make it executable, and run.
Hi, your post is very interesting, thanks.
I tried to "copy" you, however I've already find some issues:
- image view: either Geeqie and XnView seems to have a flaw, as they can import only within Home partition. My photos, however, are stored in a separate partition, which seems not accessible to these programs.
Other photo management programs such as Shotweel, Dikigam etc instead do easily access that partition.
I hope it is possibile also with Geeqie and XnView i.e. that I'm missing something. Otherwise I'd have to choose between: i) moving at least the "input" photo directory inside OS i.e. root; ii) do not use those image viewers.

Thanks for any help

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:33 pm
by BenTrabetere
adrenalina wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:21 pm
however I've already find some issues:
- image view: either Geeqie and XnView seems to have a flaw, as they can import only within Home partition.
My photos are on a separate "Data" partition, and I have no problem accessing them from either Geeqie or XnView. You should be able to open images on any mounted partition. You may need to navigate to it in the Geeqie/XnView file browser, and Geeqie will let you "bookmark" the location.

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:25 pm
by adrenalina
BenTrabetere wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:33 pm
adrenalina wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:21 pm
however I've already find some issues:
- image view: either Geeqie and XnView seems to have a flaw, as they can import only within Home partition.
My photos are on a separate "Data" partition, and I have no problem accessing them from either Geeqie or XnView. You should be able to open images on any mounted partition. You may need to navigate to it in the Geeqie/XnView file browser, and Geeqie will let you "bookmark" the location.
I'm somehow glad to hear that, thanks.
I've tried but can't figure out how to do it: it seems that the "higher" level i can make them navigate is my HOME partition, not any "further". I'll try ti send an image to make my issue more clear. BTW, I'm using 18.04 LTS and the lastest version of those programs.

Re: [SOLVED] [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:03 am
by decrepit
I'm running 19.1 mate and I can't find XnViewMP in the standard repositories

Re: [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:27 am
by RIH
adrenalina wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:25 pm
I've tried but can't figure out how to do it: it seems that the "higher" level i can make them navigate is my HOME partition, not any "further". I'll try ti send an image to make my issue more clear. BTW, I'm using 18.04 LTS and the lastest version of those programs.
Quite a few programs are like this the first time you open them.
What you have to do is go up a level from Home to root (/).
Open up root & come down to the Media Folder.
In the Media Folder click on your Name
Mounted drives will appear & you can navigate to your photo folders from there..

Re: [SOLVED] [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:29 am
by RIH
decrepit wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:03 am
I'm running 19.1 mate and I can't find XnViewMP in the standard repositories
So am I... :D
XnViewMP.png

Re: [SOLVED] [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:15 am
by decrepit
Well that's odd, I couldn't find it with "synaptic", but "software manager" is now installing it.

Re: [SOLVED] [PHOTOS] Pix / Shotwell or any better ?

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:43 am
by decrepit
So it's installed, but it says it's running as "superuser???????????????