Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...? [SOLVED]

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Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...? [SOLVED]

Post by dexl » Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:42 am

I am finding Linux Mint to be more and more sluggish and unresponsive. I've been running Mint on this computer ever since LM11 and no other version has given me so many frozen screens and hard resets (due to system hang) than Linux Mint 19 Tara. I know my computer is not a bleeding edge, state of the art super computer, but I would assume that simple tasks such as running a web browser and editing a pdf file in GIMP would not hang my system. But it does all the time.

Mint XFCE doesn't seem to be any lighter in terms of system requirements than MATE, my current desktop. I was wondering though if I would notice any difference if I switched from MATE to XFCE? And is it better to do a clean reinstall of Mint XFCE or will I get the same results by adding an XFCE desktop in addition to my current MATE desktop?

Here are my system specs:

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~$ inxi -Fx
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP xw6400 Workstation serial: N/A
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 0A04h v: NA serial: N/A
           BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 786D4 v02.35 date: 11/25/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Xeon 5130 (-MT-MCP-) arch: Conroe rev.11 cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 7979
           clock speeds: max: 1994 MHz 1: 1994 MHz 2: 1994 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G86 [Quadro NVS 290] bus-ID: 40:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) driver: FAILED: modesetting Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV86 version: 3.3 Mesa 18.0.5 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Creative Labs EMU10k2/CA0100/CA0102/CA10200 [Sound Blaster Audigy Series]
           driver: snd_emu10k1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 01:04.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-43-generic
Network:   Card: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
           driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 1f:00.0
           IF: enp31s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1f:29:47:4c:86
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 240.1GB (69.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD800JD size: 80.0GB temp: 38C
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST3160815AS size: 160.0GB temp: 38C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 23G used: 17G (77%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb3
           ID-2: /home size: 78G used: 61G (83%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb5
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.50GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb6
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 183 Uptime: 1:19 Memory: 1252.5/3944.1MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191) inxi: 2.3.56 
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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by wallyUSA » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:09 pm

Maybe gimp is the issue?
Just a shot-in-the-dark, have you looked for ways to make gimp run faster? I did a google 'gimp faster' and found some ideas.
I do not use gimp, but I have heard it is a large & complex program.

EDIT: The search mentioned someone on WIN10 said their gimp 2.10 was running slower!

Have you checked for gimp updates?

Just some ideas!
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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by dexl » Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:33 pm

Thank you for your suggestion. The thing is I've just had to hard restart LM (running XFCE desktop) because it hung up on me while ONLY using Chromium browser and having Thunar open. So it's not really a GIMP issue. Linux Mint is getting more resource hungry for no apparent reason. I guess it's time to switch to Sparky Linux.. :lol:

Even so, could anyone chime in as to why this is so? I don't believe my PC is all of a sudden so slow so as not to be able to have Chromium on.

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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by ajgringo619 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:07 pm

If your XFCE DE hung with only Chromium and Thunar open, you have a much bigger problem. Can you post the results of inxi -Fxxx?
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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by JoeFootball » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:22 pm

dexl wrote:And is it better to do a clean reinstall of Mint XFCE or will I get the same results by adding an XFCE desktop in addition to my current MATE desktop?
Performance aside, I never mix desktop environments in a single deployment. While technically feasible, I've seen far too many problems with doing that.

I do have multiple desktops on a single box, but each is segregated to its own deployment/partition.

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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by kevin987 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:25 pm

It may be getting slower because you're starting to fill up your hard drive.

Your sdb device is listed as 160 GB. I only see 101.5 GB allocated to root, home and swap with 78 GB being used. Are you using the remaining 58 GB for something else?
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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by dexl » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:42 pm

kevin987 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:25 pm
It may be getting slower because you're starting to fill up your hard drive.

Your sdb device is listed as 160 GB. I only see 101.5 GB allocated to root, home and swap with 78 GB being used. Are you using the remaining 58 GB for something else?
Mmm you may be right! I think I should first try formatting Windows 10 drive (as I haven't used it in more than a year) and allocate the remaining space to linux.

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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by dexl » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:13 pm

ajgringo619 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:07 pm
If your XFCE DE hung with only Chromium and Thunar open, you have a much bigger problem. Can you post the results of inxi -Fxxx?
Here it is:

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~$ inxi -Fxxx
System:    Host: di Kernel: 4.15.0-43-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.3.0
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.31) info: xfce4-panel dm: lightdm
           Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP xw6400 Workstation serial: N/A
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 0A04h v: NA serial: N/A
           BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 786D4 v02.35 date: 11/25/2008
           Chassis: type: 6 serial: N/A
CPU:       Dual core Intel Xeon 5130 (-MT-MCP-) 
           arch: Conroe rev.11 cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 7979
           clock speeds: max: 1994 MHz 1: 1994 MHz 2: 1994 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G86 [Quadro NVS 290]
           bus-ID: 40:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:042f
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) driver: FAILED: modesetting
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV86
           version: 3.3 Mesa 18.0.5 (compat-v: 3.0) Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Creative Labs EMU10k2/CA0100/CA0102/CA10200 [Sound Blaster Audigy Series]
           driver: snd_emu10k1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 01:04.0 chip-ID: 1102:0004
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-43-generic
Network:   Card: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet PCIE
           driver: tg3 v: 3.137 bus-ID: 1f:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1600
           IF: enp31s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:1f:29:47:4c:86
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 240.1GB (42.4% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD800JD size: 80.0GB
           serial: WD-WMAMD3090065
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST3160815AS size: 160.0GB serial: 6RX1P3DY
Partition: ID-1: / size: 23G used: 17G (77%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb3
           ID-2: /home size: 78G used: 58G (79%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb5
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.50GB used: 0.07GB (14%)
           fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb6
RAID:      System: supported: N/A
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 189 Uptime: 5:56 Memory: 1253.2/3944.1MB
           Init: systemd v: 237 runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.191 running in mate-terminal) inxi: 2.3.56 
Now, what does that all mean...? :)

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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by ajgringo619 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:16 pm

I'm concerned with your Graphics section:

Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G86 [Quadro NVS 290]
bus-ID: 40:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:042f
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) driver: FAILED: modesetting
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: NV86
version: 3.3 Mesa 18.0.5 (compat-v: 3.0) Direct Render: Yes

Have you tried to install an Nvidia driver in the past?
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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by dexl » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:24 pm

ajgringo619 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:16 pm
I'm concerned with your Graphics section:
Have you tried to install an Nvidia driver in the past?
Well, this morning I was unable to log in to my MATE. I figured it was because last night I upgraded the kernel because the Update Manager was nagging me to do so.. ;) I have no idea what happened but all of a sudden, instead of automatic login as it always did, I was presented with a login screen. I typed my password (correct!) and it would just get stuck in a loop asking me to type in the password, black screen, type in the password. So I searched on this forum for solutions, I did uninstall xorg (or something similar) and reinstalled again. To no avail. So in an act of desperation I installed XFCE desktop and it works! however, I still cannot login to MATE, a never-ending loop... other than that I don't remember installing anything else. To answer your question, I "might" have installed Nvidia driver in the past, yes. I shouldn't do that?

As I'm typing this, I'm downloading the latest LM 19.1 Mate and I am just going to do a clean install - I don't feel like spending hours figuring out what's wrong with this installation. I'm deleting the whole Windows 10 partition and will install LM19.1 there - over 70GB - I hope this will fix the issue of Mint being slow and unresponsive. Thanks everyone for your help.

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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by hcentaur13 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:51 pm

mint is not designed to run exactly 1 desktop. Missing desktops up results in best in slowdon each and anything significantly. In worst nothing will work anyway.
Dinstalling something preinstalled will destroy some functionality.

Mint comes with separate ISO for different desktops. Select one and use it. To change the desktop you have do make a clean install of the ISO builded for that.

There are other distributions around which are designed to boot each user in its own desktop. The distributore went a huge amount of time only for that. Mint is a distibutin that spends alle the time to have one desktop working at its best - for each desktop on its own.

Make a clean install of mit with exactlyx one desktop. Don't never install another desktop too. It will not work right but disturbs other.

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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by gm10 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:04 pm

^ having only a single desktop is recommended but by no means impossible. Many people have several desktop environments installed without issues.
ajgringo619 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:16 pm
I'm concerned with your Graphics section:
That should be normal output for his inxi version.
dexl wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:24 pm
As I'm typing this, I'm downloading the latest LM 19.1 Mate and I am just going to do a clean install - I don't feel like spending hours figuring out what's wrong with this installation.
That's the sane choice. Fingers crossed.

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Re: Why is LM getting more and more resource-hungry...?

Post by dexl » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:11 am

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but as an update to my initial post in this thread, I did reinstall LM 19, got rid of the old Windows partition allocating the WHOLE disk to Linux Mint. As of now I only have 14% disk space used for the system files (as opposed to 95% before), the other partition, /home, uses only 50%. The result? Linux Mint is not lagging or hanging any more. I suppose the problem was, as someone pointed out, lack of disk space. Thank you all for your suggestions!

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