The development team promised an improved performance for Mint 19 Cinnamon.
From my tests, 19 does seem as quick as 17.
This is only for Cinnamon and probably won't apply to Xfce or MATE.
The development team promised an improved performance for Mint 19 Cinnamon.
Both Linux Mint 13 and Linux Mint 17 were supported for 5 years. No difference.
HEAR HEAR!!!rbeltz48 wrote: ⤴Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:03 am Mint 17.3 is by FAR Mint's very best release ever. Everything just works! And with a LOW memory footprint. Once everyone jumped on the bandwagon and went to GTK3 and Sysyemd, things went downhill with 18.x and 19.x. The Distrowatch hits over the past 2 years confirm this. Everything became more sluggish and required more memory. After 35 years of using PCs and various OS's I do not call that progress. Long live Mint 17.3!
UEFI is an open standard, I doubt anybody has any side-deals, that doesn't appear plausible. But LM 19.1 supports installing with secure boot enabled so just give it a try.
I did so and I'm pleased to say that, so far, all has gone well. It works! My brief dalliance with Opensuse was interesting but at times frustrating. I'm glad to be back in the Mint camp. My dual boot is preserved and the problem I was having with being unceremoniously booted out to the login screen was solved by changing to the proprietary NVIDIA driver from the open source one.
Unlikely, it's part of the "community maintained" repository but the package doesn't appear to be actively maintained, it's been broken for years and hasn't been updated in that long. You can grab the latest release here, just follow their installation instructions: https://sourceforge.net/projects/gprena ... /gprename/Sobieski wrote: ⤴Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:15 pm Also, the gprenamer program installs OK but it can only be started up and run from the terminal. Installation from Synaptic as well as from a .deb binary did not put icons or links in the main menu. I'm using gprenamer as a replacement for the now defunct pyRenamer. This is a bug that will be addressed In updates?
Yes: you'll be running an unsupported OS, which does not get any security updates anymore. That is an issue.BananaTech wrote: ⤴Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:09 am will i run into any issues continuing to run 17.3 till there is better apu support in the later versions ?
This is the real point. Its not just an LM team thing.Pjotr wrote: ⤴Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:55 amAs Mint 17.x is based on Ubuntu 14.04 (some 90 % of its packages are unchanged upstream Ubuntu), you'd have to ask the Ubuntu developers that.
Maintaining the EOL upstream Ubuntu packages would be quite impossible for the small Mint team (even if they would want to do so).
Diverging from your own opinion on all points: I'm fine with that. But would you care to explain why praise for LM 17.3 as a mature distro in itself that probably didn't need a full makeover is wrong in the absolute? I understand the necessity to keep up with Ubuntu, since that's the distro that LM is based on; what I don't quite understand is the impulse to fix what ain't broke. I'm not saying that LM is the only distro to follow the path of change for change: it is, in fact quite the opposite. I was very happy with the conservative stance that LM took about desktop environments while Ubuntu was doing that crazy Unity thing (Canonical itself later ditched that malformed and grotesque creation, by the way), but today I'm worried about the future of Cinnamon as a middleweight DE, hence my remark about maybe having to leave it. I perceive Cinnamon as fragile (I may be wrong about that, but it's a feeling I've got), because it's being pulled in two directions, i.e. traditional (wooden) desktop analogy versus smartphonish presentation à la Gnome 3. It's ironic that KDE was discarded from LM 19 only for Cinnamon to slowly take it's place (but I'm not saying that Cinnamon is yet half as bloated as KDE is, of course).oldgranola wrote: ⤴Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:55 pm This is the real point. Its not just an LM team thing.
And to the bizarre posts above saying that 17.3 is better than 19.1...Wrong on all points.
Dear Rosa,
In May 2016 I got fed up with Microsoft's pushing towards Windows10. My Windows7 pro had been doing reasonably okay, so why "upgrade" ? I admit it was slow .... but so am I ..... so I could live with that.
I decided to move to Linux, no matter how much learning and effort would be involved. I first dated Ubuntu but that was not my type.
And then I met YOU. My Mate.
My computer-life was about to change. Okay, we had some issues but we sorted those out. As a result, I let you handle all PC's in the house, and even my GF likes you. A lot! My kids sticked to W10. But hehe .... kids don't listen to their parents, do they ?
I realise that you spoiled me. Fast booting, running smoothly, no complaints, no virusses .... always willing to serve. Gosh, I got fond of you. And still am.
But the time has come that I have to let you go. With pain in my heart.
In a month time your upkeep will stop. And I have to move on. It's a time-thingie. For humans, time moves in one direction, as you probably know. If not, ask The Guide Mk2.
I met Tara in an earlier stage, but there was no spark. Then Tessa. That went better but we had problems with sharing files.
Spicy Sylvia OTOH looks like a good successor of you, dear Rosa.
I thank you for your companionship these 3 years. Goodbye.
For starters, Mint was *not* originally made to replace Unity. Mint began years before Unity.RubyStone wrote: ⤴Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:28 am So many glowing comments about the amazing 17.x (especially 17.3).
I have to say that I might consider moving to 18.3 until its EOL. However, it is my understanding that Mint (Cinnamon, etc.) are off-shoots that are based on the base code of Ubuntu. Everything else is home-baked by Mint. So, in order to keep Mint working fine, only the additional changes would need to be updated and all should be fine. After all, Mint was originally made to replace Unity.
All along, regardless of what was put on top of any version of Ubuntu, the repositories were pushed without major issue. So, just pull Unity off of the next Ubuntu release and slap Cinnamon (from 17.3) desktop on it.
Or better yet, modify the Cinnamon 17.3 desktop to go on to 19.3. All problems solved.
Again, the WHOLE concept of the Kernel and Desktop being separate is modularity. If the desktop and kernel are so mutually exclusive then it almost seems like Linux is no better than M$.