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Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:48 pm
by pbear
ganamant wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:16 am
At this point, I would do my tests from a live medium with the HDD disconnected, just in case.
+1. No point risking the HDD (and, more importantly, the data on it) until the machine is either fixed or replaced.

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:00 pm
by Neil Edmond
Could be a weak, failing power supply. I had one acting in a similar fashion a few years ago, and after everything else checked good we decided to try a different power supply. That did the trick.

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:03 am
by SamLearnsLinux
Pierre wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:09 am
so, with that HDD still being removed:
- try some other video methods, thus:
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132

did you also try the 'nomodeset' option ?.
How do I do this from the grub menu?

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:04 am
by SamLearnsLinux
Quetzal wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:22 am
Just a thought from remembering Windows fault finding:-

Maybe check that the RAM modules are firmly seated in their slots - (easy to check anyway when running out of ideas).

If loose, that could give an intermittent fault - though on more remembering - perhaps that used to give a "No operating system found" message.
Yeah I've checked this. I removed, cleaned and re-seated the RAM in both the slots. No difference

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:06 am
by SamLearnsLinux
ganamant wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:16 am
Quetzal wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:22 am
Maybe check that the RAM modules are firmly seated in their slots - (easy to check anyway when running out of ideas).
Either that, or maybe one RAM stick has failed. In this case, the sticks should be tested in sequence, only one at a time. At this point, I would do my tests from a live medium with the HDD disconnected, just in case.
I have only 1 RAM stick. I also ran memtest and it passed the entire test twice without any errros

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:13 am
by SamLearnsLinux
Neil Edmond wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:00 pm
Could be a weak, failing power supply. I had one acting in a similar fashion a few years ago, and after everything else checked good we decided to try a different power supply. That did the trick.
Done. Checked this as well. No difference. Same error

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:44 am
by SamLearnsLinux
pbear wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:48 pm
ganamant wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:16 am
At this point, I would do my tests from a live medium with the HDD disconnected, just in case.
+1. No point risking the HDD (and, more importantly, the data on it) until the machine is either fixed or replaced.
Alright. Done. I have disconnected the HDD

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:47 am
by Pierre
SamLearnsLinux wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:03 am
did you also try the 'nomodeset' option ?.

How do I do this from the grub menu?
do look at that Tutorial:
- - What are these options? - - nomodeset
read that section . .

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:06 am
by SamLearnsLinux
Pierre wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:47 am
SamLearnsLinux wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:03 am
did you also try the 'nomodeset' option ?.

How do I do this from the grub menu?
do look at that Tutorial:
- - What are these options? - - nomodeset
read that section . .
Sorry. So alright I tried this. Brings me back to the same issue I talked about during the first post on reddit https://m.imgur.com/JuuAa8W

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:21 am
by SamLearnsLinux
Pierre wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:47 am
SamLearnsLinux wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:03 am
did you also try the 'nomodeset' option ?.

How do I do this from the grub menu?
do look at that Tutorial:
- - What are these options? - - nomodeset
read that section . .
And if I try it for the live usb, I get the same 'uncompression error -- system halted'

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:25 pm
by SamLearnsLinux
Anyone anything? Is just replacing the whole system the only answer now?

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:37 pm
by ganamant
SamLearnsLinux wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:25 pm
Anyone anything? Is just replacing the whole system the only answer now?
I'm afraid it is. Computers die from time to time. The biggest loss in that case is the data. If the HDD is OK, you have been lucky after all.

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:02 pm
by SamLearnsLinux
ganamant wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:37 pm
SamLearnsLinux wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:25 pm
Anyone anything? Is just replacing the whole system the only answer now?
I'm afraid it is. Computers die from time to time. The biggest loss in that case is the data. If the HDD is OK, you have been lucky after all.
Yeah I'm afraid as well that's the case. Is there anyway I can salvage the motherboard or especially the processor cuz those little things are damn expensive. How do I tell which part is faulty and which is fine?

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:05 pm
by JeremyB
The picture posted https://m.imgur.com/JuuAa8W shows me that there is an issue with the kernel, I would try to use the Grub menu on the install to use Advanced options and pick an older kernel to boot into

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:09 am
by SamLearnsLinux
JeremyB wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:05 pm
The picture posted https://m.imgur.com/JuuAa8W shows me that there is an issue with the kernel, I would try to use the Grub menu on the install to use Advanced options and pick an older kernel to boot into
Tried a lot of older kernels under advanced options. None boot

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:14 am
by ganamant
SamLearnsLinux wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:02 pm
How do I tell which part is faulty and which is fine?
That's pretty easy if the problem is as simple as a blown capacitor, but hard otherwise. If the PSU is ok, I'd try changing the mobo first. However, if it was a defective PSU that blew the mobo, both need replacing. This is hard to tell without some instruments and a little training. Maybe, try a repair lab if there's one near you.

Re: Unable to boot into live usb or system. Completely locked out. Help!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:06 pm
by Marie SWE
What strikes me is, check the motherboard's battery.... When it is empty, many strange phenomenon can occur