REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

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REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

Post by MtnDewManiac »

Had to do in-place upgrade this time. Checked via terminal and have 17.3 (Xfce). Followed the link for going from that to 18. Installed mintupgrade via terminal. Ran mintupgrade check and things looked okay. Ran mintupgrade download and things looked okay (this took about 42 minutes).

Ran mintupgrade upgrade and it stated that it failed:

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!!  ERROR: Failed to upgrade some of the packages. Please review the error message, use APT to fix the situation and try again.
!!  Exiting.
------------------------------------------------
The last few lines above that message:

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Checking for services that may need to be restarted...
Checking init scripts...
Nothing to restart.
Removing obsolete conffile /etc/ld.so.conf.d/i686-linux-gnu.conf ...
Setting up libgpg-error0:amd64 (1.21-2ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libgpg-error0:i386 (1.21-2ubuntu1) ...
W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish
W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish is the only error message that I could find. And this is odd because I didn't interrupt the operation - I've been sitting here not interrupting it :roll: . At one point I was told to stop xscreensaver and something else (somethinglocksomething), so I opened a separate terminal window and pkilled both, then closed that window and pressed Enter in the one that was doing the upgrade (and that had paused). Other than that, I had just been sitting here waiting.

It seemed unlikely in the extreme that I might somehow have interrupted the operation, but I was forced to take the computer's word for it and decided to move my chair five feet back, retype mintupgrade upgrade, and then go sit down where I would be unable to physically reach the computer.

It failed again:

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user@computer ~ $ mintupgrade upgrade


  + Checking your Linux Mint codename...

  + Checking your Linux Mint edition...

  + Setting up the repositories for Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'...
OK
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security InRelease [109 kB]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah InRelease                              
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah Release.gpg                            
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial InRelease                                 
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial InRelease                              
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main amd64 Packages [638 kB]  
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah Release                                
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner amd64 Packages                 
Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates InRelease [109 kB]              
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main amd64 Packages                    
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner i386 Packages                  
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner Translation-en                 
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream amd64 Packages                
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import amd64 Packages                  
Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports InRelease [107 kB]            
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted amd64 Packages [7,204 B]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main amd64 Packages                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted amd64 Packages                 
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport amd64 Packages                
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe amd64 Packages [434 kB]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/universe amd64 Packages                   
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main i386 Packages                     
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/multiverse amd64 Packages                 
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream i386 Packages                 
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [5,604 B]
Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main i386 Packages [530 kB]   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main i386 Packages                        
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import i386 Packages                   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted i386 Packages               
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport i386 Packages              
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/universe i386 Packages                
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/multiverse i386 Packages                  
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted i386 Packages [7,224 B]
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe i386 Packages [378 kB]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/multiverse Translation-en                 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted Translation-en                 
Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse i386 Packages [5,764 B]
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main Translation-en             
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/universe Translation-en                   
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted Translation-en
Get:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages [947 kB]
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe Translation-en         
Get:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [7,616 B]
Get:14 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe amd64 Packages [747 kB]
Get:15 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [16.7 kB]
Get:16 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main i386 Packages [819 kB]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import Translation-en_US               
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import Translation-en                  
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main Translation-en_US                 
Get:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted i386 Packages [7,580 B]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main Translation-en                    
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream Translation-en_US             
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream Translation-en                
Get:18 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe i386 Packages [683 kB]
Get:19 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [15.8 kB]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main Translation-en               
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse Translation-en         
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted Translation-en         
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe Translation-en           
Get:20 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main amd64 Packages [7,280 B]
Get:21 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted amd64 Packages [64 B]
Get:22 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe amd64 Packages [7,804 B]
Get:23 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse amd64 Packages [64 B]
Get:24 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main i386 Packages [7,288 B] 
Get:25 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted i386 Packages [64 B]
Get:26 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe i386 Packages [7,488 B]
Get:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse i386 Packages [64 B]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main Translation-en             
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse Translation-en       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted Translation-en       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe Translation-en         
Fetched 5,604 kB in 9s (601 kB/s)                                              
Reading package lists... Done
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libxapian-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-wayland'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-x11'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libkf5sysguard-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-psr-http-message-implementation
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-psr-log-implementation
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-seclib
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-sabre-http
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-math-biginteger
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libxapian-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-wayland'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-x11'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libkf5sysguard-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package xserver-xorg
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-math-biginteger
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package xserver-xorg
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

  + Downloading upgrade packages...

-------------------------------------------------
    APT will now download the package updates necessary for the upgrade to Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'.

    Do you want to continue? [y/n]:y
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.20) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
 libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.15) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
 libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.15) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

------------------------------------------------
!!  ERROR: Failed to download packages for the upgrade.
!!  Exiting.
------------------------------------------------

user@computer ~ $ 
Can I get help with this one, please? I'm afraid to even shut it down now, and it's a laptop with a bad power port jack and non-functioning battery, so I don't like to just leave it on in case it should somehow happen to get moved and the power cable get jiggled. (This did NOT happen during the upgrade attempt. The computer and I both just sat here, separately!)

No, I did not do a backup prior to this attempted upgrade. Optical drive doesn't work and there was no USB storage device available. Which has never been more painful than it is right now.

The computer appears to be functioning at present; when I gave up on trying to get it going again by myself, I simply ran Firefox as per normal and opened the forum's webpage to post this. Which is good, lol, but I need to get the upgrade finished because I just read earlier today that 17.3 is no longer supported. I've tried 18 on this computer before and it worked, so I thought I would be able to switch to it.

Thanks in advance,
MDM
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

Post by Pierre »

that's not Good :o

what you could do, and assuming that the New Repository has now been set, by the upgrades:
- - on the Taskbar - click on the Update Icon - - Edit - Software Sources:
at the Bottom of the Main Screen - click on 'Restore the default setting' - then click on 'Update cache' at the Top of that Screen.

then, wait for 2 - 3 min for the Updater to refresh, again & maybe, now show what updates are still pending.

this is an nice exercise to go through, and if things do go south, then you can still go with an Clean Install anyway:
- depending, on little, on your current HDDs partition layout., as well.
8)

been there, done that, it's an nice learning curve, with not too many critical issues, to encounter.
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

Post by MtnDewManiac »

More information:

I followed this how-to as much as possible:
https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2316

I hovered on my upper panel to see what time it was, and while the panel was visible, I saw the mintUpdate icon had changed to the "!" one, so I opened the app and it is now showing that there are new versions of both mintupdate (from 4.9.9.2 to 5.1.0.6) and mint-upgrade-info (from 1.0.5 to 1.1.1).

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user@computer ~ $ cat /etc/linuxmint/infoRELEASE=17.3
CODENAME=rosa
EDITION="Xfce 64-bit"
DESCRIPTION="Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa"
DESKTOP=Xfce
TOOLKIT=GTK
NEW_FEATURES_URL=http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_rosa_xfce_whatsnew.php
RELEASE_NOTES_URL=http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_rosa_xfce.php
USER_GUIDE_URL=help:linuxmint
GRUB_TITLE=Linux Mint 17.3 Xfce 64-bit
user@computer ~ $ 
While mintupdate was open, I did View/Information and read:

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05.05@19:52 ++ Launching mintUpdate 
05.05@19:52 ++ Starting refresh 
05.05@19:52 ++ Initial refresh will happen in 10 minutes, 0 hours and 0 days 
05.05@19:53 ++ System is up to date 
05.05@19:53 ++ Refresh finished 
05.05@20:02 ++ MintUpdate is in tray mode, performing initial refresh 
05.05@20:02 ++ Starting refresh (including refreshing the APT cache) 
05.05@20:02 ++ Auto-refresh will happen in 0 minutes, 2 hours and 0 days 
05.05@20:02 ++ Error in checkAPT.py, could not refresh the list of updates 
05.05@20:15 ++ Starting refresh (including refreshing the APT cache) 
05.05@20:16 ++ System is up to date 
05.05@20:16 ++ Refresh finished 
05.05@22:02 ++ MintUpdate is in tray mode, performing auto-refresh 
05.05@22:02 ++ Starting refresh (including refreshing the APT cache) 
05.05@22:02 ++ Auto-refresh will happen in 0 minutes, 2 hours and 0 days 
05.05@22:03 ++ Found a new version of mintupdate 
05.05@22:03 ++ Refresh finished 
Did mintupdate interrupt mintupgrade's operation? I see that it tried to refresh its information and failed. Would this have been the case if it tried to do so while mintupgrade was running?

I don't know what to do. Typing mintupgrade upgrade a third time seems pointless. I'm afraid to shut the computer down. I'm afraid to leave it running. Pretty worried that if I allow mintupdate to install the two newer versions of those files, it'll just make things even worse - and I have some hope that I might be able (with much help) to recover from this one, because, as I mentioned, the computer is still functioning even after mintupgrade broke partway through.
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

Post by Pierre »

try not to panic too much - you've hopefully, still got some spare hours,
in the rest of your evening. :)

do try, to Reset that New Repository back it it's default - it may still be set to the old LM17 repository,
but give that a go anyway & see just what happens.

- did you have the foresight, to get an New ISO, for the 'worst case scenario? it's not critical, if you didn't.
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

Post by MtnDewManiac »

Again, the .ISO would be useless to me.
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I ran mintupgrade check again and this happened

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user@computer ~ $ mintupgrade check


  + Checking your Linux Mint codename...

  + Checking your Linux Mint edition...

  + Setting up the repositories for Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'...
[sudo] password for randy: 
OK
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial InRelease
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah InRelease                              
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah Release.gpg                            
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner amd64 Packages                 
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner i386 Packages                  
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security InRelease [109 kB]            
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial InRelease                                 
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner Translation-en                 
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah Release                                
Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates InRelease [109 kB]              
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main amd64 Packages                    
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream amd64 Packages                
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import amd64 Packages                  
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main amd64 Packages [638 kB]  
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport amd64 Packages                
Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports InRelease [107 kB]            
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main i386 Packages                     
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream i386 Packages                 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main amd64 Packages                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted amd64 Packages                 
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import i386 Packages                   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/universe amd64 Packages                   
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport i386 Packages                 
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted amd64 Packages [7,204 B]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/multiverse amd64 Packages                 
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe amd64 Packages [434 kB]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main i386 Packages                        
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted i386 Packages              
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/universe i386 Packages                    
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [5,604 B]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/multiverse i386 Packages                  
Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main i386 Packages [530 kB]   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/multiverse Translation-en                 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted Translation-en                 
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted i386 Packages [7,224 B]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/universe Translation-en                   
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe i386 Packages [378 kB]
Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages [947 kB]
Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse i386 Packages [5,764 B]
Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main Translation-en [261 kB] 
Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse Translation-en [2,676 B]
Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted Translation-en [2,152 B]
Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe Translation-en [176 kB]
Get:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [7,616 B]
Get:18 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe amd64 Packages [747 kB]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport Translation-en_US             
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream Translation-en      
Get:19 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [16.7 kB]
Get:20 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main i386 Packages [819 kB]
Get:21 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted i386 Packages [7,580 B]
Get:22 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe i386 Packages [683 kB]
Get:23 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [15.8 kB]
Get:24 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main Translation-en [379 kB]   
Get:25 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse Translation-en [8,440 B]
Get:26 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted Translation-en [2,272 B]
Get:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe Translation-en [311 kB]
Get:28 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main amd64 Packages [7,280 B]
Get:29 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted amd64 Packages [64 B]
Get:30 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe amd64 Packages [7,804 B]
Get:31 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse amd64 Packages [64 B]
Get:32 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main i386 Packages [7,288 B] 
Get:33 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted i386 Packages [64 B]
Get:34 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe i386 Packages [7,488 B]
Get:35 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse i386 Packages [64 B]
Get:36 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main Translation-en [4,456 B]
Get:37 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse Translation-en [64 B]
Get:38 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted Translation-en [64 B]
Get:39 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe Translation-en [4,184 B]
Fetched 6,755 kB in 9s (697 kB/s)                                              
Reading package lists... Done
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libxapian-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-wayland'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-x11'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libkf5sysguard-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-psr-http-message-implementation
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-psr-log-implementation
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-seclib
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-sabre-http
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-math-biginteger
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libxapian-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-wayland'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-x11'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libkf5sysguard-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package xserver-xorg
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-math-biginteger
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package xserver-xorg
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

  + Simulating an upgrade...

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    APT will now calculate the package changes necessary to upgrade to Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'.
    If conflicts are detected and APT is unable to perform the upgrade, take note of the packages causing the issue, remove them, and re-install them after the upgrade.
    Pay close attention to what appears on the screen, and review the list of packages being REMOVED during the upgrade.
    Take note of the packages being removed, so you can eventually reinstall them after the upgrade.

    Do you want to continue? [y/n]:y
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.20) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
 libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.15) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
 libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.15) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

  + Restoring your backed up APT sources...
user@computer ~ $ 
Mintupdate still shows those two files that it wants to install new versions of (mintupdate and mint-upgrade-info). I thought, "Well, maybe it's the new way and all that other downloading in the terminal was just to get me to that point and since this is free software, no one had gotten around to finishing the instructions yet???" So I hit the install button, typed in my password - and mintupdate told me that it was GOING TO REMOVE OVER 100 FILES! It said it was going to install some, too, but the ones it wanted to remove weren't on the list of things it was going to then install. Files such as Chrome, Gimp, LibreOffice, and other stuff that, as far as I know, they still put out updates to, so I don't think that upgrading from 17.3 to Mint 18 is supposed to uninstall all that stuff as if it were all old, unsupported by its developers, and versions that work in Mint 18 did not exist. So... No, mintupgrade surely isn't supposed to tear all that stuff out, is it?

This is stressful. And annoying; I would like to get it straightened out so that I can safely shut down the computer and get to bed. I thought about trying that hibernate thing, maybe save it to the hard drive and get back to it tommorrow evening, but I've never used it before and read some time ago that some computers choke on it. Suspend isn't helpful, because the battery is pooched. If I try to move the computer it'll jiggle the power cable and it'll die. I probably shouldn't have had it right next to the bed anyway but that's where the desk lamp is so I just pulled the chair up to it and strted trying to do the upgrade that we have to do now from 17.3. More than a little afraid if I just go to sleep it'll either shut off on its own or I'll bump it with my arm in my sleep and it'll die hard.

Anyone been through this? And/or know stuff about linux and terminals and stuff? Help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
MDM
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

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No, mintupgrade surely isn't supposed to tear all that stuff out, is it?
ya, it is... upgrading will involve a lot of deleting of existing files and installing a bunch of new ones. Thats part of the normal process. Not sure why that bugs you.

Also upgrading an OS is not something to be done when time is short or nerves are tight or you really have to have that computer working at that time. I also was not able to upgrade from LM17.3 to 18 due to hardware issues in one case. Upgrading is rarely as good as a clean install anyway.In this case, I gave it a rest (played with dual booting other OS's like mxlinux and manjaro arch) When ready, I did a clean install of LM19.0. Now on LM19.1. Can't tell from the above what is stalling yours as you haven't listed any hardware info like results from

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sudo inxi -Fxzd
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Quite frankly, skipping LM18 for most is a better choice. Unless you have specific hardware needs or for now want to keep a SAMBA setup, I'd go for LM 19.1 via clean install. It has been a big upgrade from LM18 for me. My druthers: Back up your 'home' directory and anything else you want. List your favourite apps to be re-installed later. Then download the new ISO and make your live USB from that and install. With a tiny bit of research you can even learn to install it as a second OS to play with till comfy.
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

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Your trying to straddle two different, distinct, platform builds...LM 17.xx is ubuntu based "trusty" platform, whereas LM18.xx is ubuntu based "xenial" platform...upgrading within the same builds (such as 17, 17,1, 17.2, 17.3 is generally not a problem, but trying to upgrade between totally different platform builds is usually always a problem... a clean install is usually recommended in these cases...back up anything important to you at the very least on USBs first, then do a clean install and then use your USB back up to reinstall what you need back to your hard drive...DAMIEN

EDIT...is there any GOOD reason why your going for LM 18.xx rather than going for the latest LM 19.1 "bionic" series ???
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

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Unfortunate man. :cry: Sorry to hear it.

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W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

  + Downloading upgrade packages...

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    APT will now download the package updates necessary for the upgrade to Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'.

    Do you want to continue? [y/n]:y
Should've been n.

It's a bad situation, and like you've mentioned, never more painful.

But on a good note it may very well be able to be saved, with a lot of back and forth here, reverted enough to be able to start the upgrade again from scratch. But unfortunately with you in a pressed timeframe that's probably not an option. And it's perfectly a bad hour since right now most of the US is getting to bed and Europe is so early in the morning.

My guess is that after you clean install an 18.x or 19.x series you'll be in a 100% better position anyway and will be able to realize it. Hopefully you can gather your patience enough to copy some of your old personal files to a usb stick or maybe you're archiving a bunch of stuff and trying to email them to yourself or use some cloud space to save anything you might've wanted.

You could get crazy if you have enough free space available on the drive, create space, another partition, be able to download and grub mount an iso for a clean install to the new partition scheme, and then you can go digging back into the old setup for files later.
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

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DAMIEN1307 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:19 am
Your trying to straddle two different, distinct, platform builds...LM 17.xx is ubuntu based "trusty" platform, whereas LM18.xx is ubuntu based "xenial" platform...upgrading within the same builds (such as 17, 17,1, 17.2, 17.3 is generally not a problem, but trying to upgrade between totally different platform builds is usually always a problem... a clean install is usually recommended in these cases...back up anything important to you at the very least on USBs first, then do a clean install and then use your USB back up to reinstall what you need back to your hard drive...DAMIEN

EDIT...is there any GOOD reason why your going for LM 18.xx rather than going for the latest LM 19.1 "bionic" series ???
going from 17.3 to 18.0 via mint update was advertised as ok but didnt' work for me on one computer. was ok for two others. Point release OS's .....
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

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"as advertised" is one thing...recommended practice, ie, (clean install) is another when upgrading between distinctly different platform builds...depends on each individual computer system...one size does not fit all...DAMIEN
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Re: REQUEST ASSISTANCE: Upgrade from 17.3 to 18 Failed Halfway Through

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oldgranola wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:06 am
No, mintupgrade surely isn't supposed to tear all that stuff out, is it?
ya, it is... upgrading will involve a lot of deleting of existing files and installing a bunch of new ones. Thats part of the normal process. Not sure why that bugs you.
It's normal for me to lose one of the two most popular web browsers, one of the most popular word processor / office suites, one of the most popular image editors, et cetera? Forgive me for not anticipating that, but I would have expected the forum to be full of threads by angry Mint users if that was a common event. Besides, these are some of the most popular applications for doing some pretty routine/regular computer tasks in linux - I wouldn't be surprised if a new installation includes at least some of them, so why should an upgrade remove them?

Again, the ones I mentioned as being on the list for removal weren't on the list for (re)installation! I'd expect these types of applications (and these specific ones) to either: (a) get updated to their currently-supported versions for the currently-supported distro version that whole massive upgrade download is supposed to put on the computer, (b) not get upgraded but remain untouched, while still functioning at their previous level, or (c) not get updated but remain untouched and no longer function.

But I'm obviously no expert. If you're telling me that the Mint version upgrade process is supposed to remove all the most popular installed applications (and for which current versions seem to be available) while simultaneously downloading gigabytes' worth of all the stuff that I installed on a whim over time and ran once (if that) and never thought to uninstall before starting the distro upgrade process, well... I suppose you probably know more about this linux stuff than I do. But it doesn't seem... like linux. Traditionally, we have had to PAY for an OS that would put us in a big hole (in terms of having to manually remember which applications we've previously installed, compare them against the smaller list of applications that upgrading has left the user, reinstalling the missing ones, and trying to get them back to the same general configuration that we had painstakingly gotten them to before. Progress, maybe?
oldgranola wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:06 am
Also upgrading an OS is not something to be done when time is short or nerves are tight or you really have to have that computer working at that time.
Time wasn't short when I started. Nerves weren't "tight" (AFAIK). I didn't have to have the computer working for at least the (then) next 24 hours. I hadn't expected that I would have to stay awake and babysit it all night so that it would remain powered up, not itself "go to sleep" or suffer a power interruption that would force me to find out if it was even still capable of booting normally.

The last time I installed an OS onto this computer - which, coincidentally, was Mint 18 Xfce :roll: - by downloading the file(s) to the hard drive first, it only took a few minutes. And that was for a complete install! Now I'm just trying to upgrade what was already here, :roll: that ought to be quicker (surely there are one or two bits that haven't changed, unlike a fresh install where you know you'll have to change 100% of 100% of the files, because you've just erased them all).
oldgranola wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:06 am
I also was not able to upgrade from LM17.3 to 18 due to hardware issues in one case. Upgrading is rarely as good as a clean install anyway.In this case, I gave it a rest (played with dual booting other OS's like mxlinux and manjaro arch) When ready, I did a clean install of LM19.0. Now on LM19.1. Can't tell from the above what is stalling yours as you haven't listed any hardware info like results from

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sudo inxi -Fxzd
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The hardware is compatible with Mint 18 Xfce, because I was able to install it in the past when I was able to move stuff off of the hard drive. I'm not angry with Mint of its developers, so I don't need to do the sour grapes thing for a while. Besides, I did the distro (and OS) hopping thing in the past, and not only was unable to find an alternate that I liked as much as Mint... I was not able to find an alternate that I liked. Apologies for not posting the results of that command, but I did not see where anyone had asked for it (until now, I mean).

Which hardware-related errors were in the dump from the mintupgrade attempts I made? I'm trying not to muddy the path (and make my confusion 100 times worse by introducing possible irrelevancies).

Here's the most recent try, in case I forgot to post it in this thread:

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user@computer ~ $ mintupgrade check


  + Checking your Linux Mint codename...

  + Checking your Linux Mint edition...

  + Setting up the repositories for Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'...
[sudo] password for user: 
OK
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial InRelease
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah InRelease                              
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah Release.gpg                            
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner amd64 Packages                 
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner i386 Packages                  
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security InRelease [109 kB]            
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial InRelease                                 
Hit http://archive.canonical.com xenial/partner Translation-en                 
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah Release                                
Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates InRelease [109 kB]              
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main amd64 Packages                    
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream amd64 Packages                
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import amd64 Packages                  
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main amd64 Packages [638 kB]  
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport amd64 Packages                
Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports InRelease [107 kB]            
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main i386 Packages                     
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream i386 Packages                 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main amd64 Packages                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted amd64 Packages                 
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import i386 Packages                   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/universe amd64 Packages                   
Hit http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport i386 Packages                 
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted amd64 Packages [7,204 B]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/multiverse amd64 Packages                 
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe amd64 Packages [434 kB]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main i386 Packages                        
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted i386 Packages              
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Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [5,604 B]
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Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main i386 Packages [530 kB]   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/multiverse Translation-en                 
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/restricted Translation-en                 
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted i386 Packages [7,224 B]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial/universe Translation-en                   
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe i386 Packages [378 kB]
Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages [947 kB]
Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse i386 Packages [5,764 B]
Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/main Translation-en [261 kB] 
Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/multiverse Translation-en [2,676 B]
Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/restricted Translation-en [2,152 B]
Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com xenial-security/universe Translation-en [176 kB]
Get:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [7,616 B]
Get:18 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe amd64 Packages [747 kB]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport Translation-en_US             
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/backport Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/import Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/main Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com sarah/upstream Translation-en      
Get:19 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [16.7 kB]
Get:20 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main i386 Packages [819 kB]
Get:21 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted i386 Packages [7,580 B]
Get:22 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe i386 Packages [683 kB]
Get:23 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [15.8 kB]
Get:24 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/main Translation-en [379 kB]   
Get:25 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/multiverse Translation-en [8,440 B]
Get:26 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/restricted Translation-en [2,272 B]
Get:27 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-updates/universe Translation-en [311 kB]
Get:28 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main amd64 Packages [7,280 B]
Get:29 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted amd64 Packages [64 B]
Get:30 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe amd64 Packages [7,804 B]
Get:31 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse amd64 Packages [64 B]
Get:32 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main i386 Packages [7,288 B] 
Get:33 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted i386 Packages [64 B]
Get:34 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe i386 Packages [7,488 B]
Get:35 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse i386 Packages [64 B]
Get:36 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/main Translation-en [4,456 B]
Get:37 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/multiverse Translation-en [64 B]
Get:38 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/restricted Translation-en [64 B]
Get:39 http://archive.ubuntu.com xenial-backports/universe Translation-en [4,184 B]
Fetched 6,755 kB in 9s (697 kB/s)                                              
Reading package lists... Done
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libxapian-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-wayland'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-x11'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libkf5sysguard-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-psr-http-message-implementation
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-psr-log-implementation
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W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libxapian-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package python3-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-dev'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-wayland'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'kwin-x11'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'libkf5sysguard-dev'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package xserver-xorg
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-math-biginteger
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-core'
W: Unknown Multi-Arch type 'no' for package 'compiz-gnome'
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package xserver-xorg
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-max
W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package pypy-cffi-backend-api-min
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

  + Simulating an upgrade...

-------------------------------------------------
    APT will now calculate the package changes necessary to upgrade to Linux Mint 18 'Sarah'.
    If conflicts are detected and APT is unable to perform the upgrade, take note of the packages causing the issue, remove them, and re-install them after the upgrade.
    Pay close attention to what appears on the screen, and review the list of packages being REMOVED during the upgrade.
    Take note of the packages being removed, so you can eventually reinstall them after the upgrade.

    Do you want to continue? [y/n]:y
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc-dev-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.20) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
 libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.15) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
 libc6-i386 : Depends: libc6 (= 2.19-0ubuntu6.15) but 2.23-0ubuntu11 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.

  + Restoring your backed up APT sources...
user@computer ~ $
And while I'm thinking about it, here is something from mintupdate:

Huh. I just realized that I don't know how to get a copy of the sources list or whatever it's called. Someone mentioned something about it maybe being screwed up now on top of everything else, so I wanted to copy and paste it here. There's also an update history menu item in mintupdate, and it looks like a few files were installed last evening (the first one is "base files" which went from 7.2ubuntu5.6 to 18.0.2, and there's a locales one, and the rest are lib* files). Is there a terminal command for getting text copies of these two lists (sources and update history)? That might at least help me let you all know what was done before mintupgrade broke on me.
oldgranola wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:06 am
Quite frankly, skipping LM18 for most is a better choice.
How so? Is 18 full of problems and known not to function correctly? I require the newest possible version of Mint because my computer, only being seven years old, is way too new for Mint 18 to function on :lol: ? Clem pulled a fast one and lopped two years of its support period? Or you're predicting that this laptop, which has already lost its optical drive and that the board that the power jack is connected to is only being held together by gravity... is going to last me longer than two more years and, therefore, you're hoping to save me from having to possibly go through this ordeal again in two years? (That would be awfully nice of you if that was your goal but, frankly, I seriously doubt it will last that long, I am not entirely certain that I'll last that long, and my vision seems on track to have decreased enough by then that I won't be able to read the screen by that time anyway.)
oldgranola wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 1:06 am
Unless you have specific hardware needs or for now want to keep a SAMBA setup, I'd go for LM 19.1 via clean install. It has been a big upgrade from LM18 for me.
Specific hardware needs? Yeah, I need an extra hard drive (or, I suppose, a new DVD burner/reader and a stack of DVD-Rs or a handful of USB flash drives) - or to figure out how to fix this upgrade in place thing so that I don't have to either obtain one of those things or lose my data. Oh, and by the way, SAMBA was part of the name of a bunch of the files that were on the list of things to be removed and not on the list of things to be installed. I'm glad you mentioned that one; I forgot.

We've heretofore been instructed not to upgrade to a newer version unless there was a need. My version just lost its support (security updates). That's my need. By extrapolation, it seems sensible to... go this far - but no farther (so to speak) with my choice of upgrade. Otherwise, I'd be upgrading twice "in spirit."

Besides, while I'm not a great fan of Mint 18, I know I can use it (because I have, in the past, on this very computer). I cannot say that about Mint 19. Maybe I can, but I don't know one way or the other, and if I can't, well, that's just one more headache - and that's if there's some kind of hidden DOWNGRADE option to go from Mint 19 to Mint 18, lol, otherwise I'd just be completely screwed then.

So, yeah, Mint 18 makes more sense in this case.
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Mon May 06, 2019 1:06 am
My druthers: Back up your 'home' directory and anything else you want. List your favourite apps to be re-installed later. Then download the new ISO and make your live USB from that and install. With a tiny bit of research you can even learn to install it as a second OS to play with till comfy.
That means "advice," I assume? Yeah, that'd be my "druthers," too. Like Pop used to say, though, "Wish in one hand..." Again, no method or means for backing up files, no provision for booting from a USB port (installing a new motherboard in a laptop is both beyond my skill level even if they sell them for laptops)), and while I've been trying not to come right out and state it, no financial ability to blow money on computer parts or devices... otherwise I'd have just bought a new DVD drive and one of those spindles of blanks and burned all my data to them, burned an .ISO for Mint 18 while I was at it, formatted, and so on. I have no need to install something as a second OS unless I can't get this to work (and then it wouldn't be my second OS, it's be my only one, and I'd be looking for things to do that didn't involve a computer any more).

I'm not looking for the newest, latest and (perceived) greatest version of Mint - just the closest version to what I have (had?) that is currently receiving official security updates. I'm not looking to install multiple OS, just the one. I'm not looking for a way to perform a fresh install after hosing all my data; I'm looking for a way to keep my data (isn't that the entire point of wanting to do an OS upgrade in the first place, as opposed to a fresh install?).

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You're being penny wise and pound foolish. That hard drive is going to fail eventually. Given its age, maybe soon. Then the data will be gone, irretrievably gone, Nothing lasts forever. Not a car, not a fridge, not a computer. Time has come to find the money to replace this tool. Around here, a used Win7 laptop runs about a hundred bucks. Then, you would remove the hard drive from the old machine, attach an adapter cable and transfer the files to the "new" machine. Your choice, obviously, but what you're trying to do doesn't have to work because you want it to, or even need it to.
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Save yourself all the headaches, just clean install Mint 18 if you can.
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He (or she) can't. No working optical drive or USB port.

ETA: Just remembered something. austin.texas did a tutorial on booting an ISO from hard drive. Never done it myself, but trust anything from austin without hesitation. Doesn't solve the backup problem, though, which IMHO is the big one.
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pbear wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 12:13 pm
He (or she) can't. No working optical drive or USB port.
HEY, thanks for reading! It's a little frustrating having to keep mentioning that. That's probably the reason that I didn't bother posting a lengthy financial report and point out that, while on a good day I can keep an elderly widowed parent fed and in her home, sometimes life doesn't leave ready piles of cash laying around for me to spend on a bunch of luxuries like electronic toys, parts and upgrades for same, multiple daily meals, or fancy new cars (or... you know... a car). Having to repeat THAT multiple times in the same thread would not only be frustrating, it would probably be a wee bit embarrassing, too. So I tried to infer it while basically stating that I was unable to fix or upgrade my hardware. Maybe it's the fault of my upbringing, but when someone tells me that "they can't do something," I don't automatically assume that they actually mean they just don't want to - I assume it means that they can't.

I can't get newer hardware means there are no funds available for it. Sure, it's on the list - but if I find myself in possession of an "extra" twenty dollars this year, I won't go buy a new hard drive or DVD burner - I'll go buy a new pair of shoes and be happy that I was able to do so (this year). Okay, what I would actually do would be to go figure out which bill I'd forgotten to pay on. But a guy can dream... :lol:

When this computer stops functioning, I won't be grumbling because I had to unclench and let some money fall out so I can go buy a new one; I'll be the guy who no longer owns a computer. That's pretty much a given, and it would probably help a great deal if it was just accepted as such. At the very least, it'd be one less reminder of how, in practical terms, poor equates to "not really much of a person" these days.

Er... Apologies for expressing some minor frustration.
pbear wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 12:13 pm
ETA: Just remembered something. austin.texas did a tutorial on booting an ISO from hard drive. Never done it myself, but trust anything from austin without hesitation. Doesn't solve the backup problem, though, which IMHO is the big one.
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Yes, he is the person (if I remember correctly) who helped me download one of the Mint .ISO files to my hard drive and install it onto that very same hard drive! That was an awesome experience - no additional installation media required. And the process was *FAST*, and so simple that even I eventually managed to do it, lol. I highly recommend it, unless you are trying to eat a sandwich during the OS installation (you might not have time to finish every bite ;) ).

But like you reiterated, that's not really my problem, not having a backup device is. I have (among other things) years' worth of versions of audio/video content that I've bought in the past and either digitized myself or found and downloaded on the assumption that, since I had a right to it, it didn't matter who actually created the copy; lots and lots and LOTS of text files, a personalized reference library of sorts on everything from first aid for people and pets up through and including maintenance, repairs, and rebuilding of vehicles (and home electrical, plumbing, roofing, etc.) that I've gathered in order to help me get through life, so to speak (poor people can't afford to pay other people to fix things, and because they DO fix things, their family members think that means they both like doing so and are proficient at it (both bad assumptions, IMHO)); a big chunk of Project Gutenberg's ebook collection (it's 100X easier to zoom hard to read font on a computer than it is when reading a physical book, and I don't have to hold the things in my pained hands, either); a lifetime's worth of "digitized memories," since I have become the family repository of old photographs, voice recordings, and videos (much of which is no longer replaceable, and many of the people in them are now deceased). Plus the inevitable large quantity of semi-random stuff that I would have thought might be useful - or at least interesting - one day.

I realize that there are online backup/storage options, and I thought about trying to figure something out in that regard. I'm not entirely convinced that those types of services are secure against misuse (even by the people running the services), but the real issue here is that it's a relatively large hard drive that's relatively full. I don't know of any online file storage services that are completely free to use... for hundreds of gigabytes. I also don't know how I'd make the data transfer in any reasonable amount of time with limited bandwidth (both in terms of speed and monthly data allowance).

I spent the morning here at home (today's work isn't time-sensitive; I just won't get paid until I've done it) so that I could look for a USB storage device, because I knew I had one somewhere. And I finally found it. I plugged it in, looked at its capacity... and saw that it'd just about hold one digitized CD :roll: .

Still looking for an upgrade guru to walk me through recovery from the original "Installation interrupted error" that I still don't understand and, hopefully, to walk me through a proper in-place upgrade. But, failing that, I suppose just getting me back to Mint 17.3 would be acceptable. I could just be one of those people that other folks laugh at because he's asking for trouble running an unsupported OS. From where I'm sitting, that seems like something to aspire to, sadly.

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pbear wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 12:13 pm
He (or she) can't. No working optical drive or USB port.
In my defense, I did say "if you can". :)
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Sorry to have wasted your time. Good luck.
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it would be nice to know, just what that machine, now thinks, that it is:

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inxi -S
would give that information, as would the full:

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inxi -F
ie: has the upgrade worked / is it now corrupted ?.
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sorry to have wasted your time too. good luck.
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