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[SOLVED] Old laptop

Post by ron23565 » Wed May 08, 2019 10:39 am

I decided to install Linux Mint as a clean install on an old Laptop (Toshiba Satellite A200-27R) when it was struggling to cope with Win 10. However the boot up time under the new OS was longer than Win 10. It took 5 minutes and more to get to the front page. The spec for the laptop is : RAM 4GB, HDD 120 GB, 32 bit, Intel Centrino Duo Processor T5250 (1.5 GHz) Bus 667 MHz. I was really disappointed as Linux Mint looked lovely and clean. It appears that my laptop processor/motherboard is just not able to cope even with this operating system. Am I flogging a dead horse ? Anyone any ideas ?
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Re: OLD LAPTOP

Post by JoeFootball » Wed May 08, 2019 10:50 am

ron23565 wrote: Anyone any ideas ?
With those specs, I'd suggest one of the Xfce desktop versions of LM, either LM 18.3 Xfce (still supported until April 2021), or LM 19.1 Xfce.

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Re: OLD LAPTOP

Post by ron23565 » Wed May 08, 2019 11:00 am

Many thx Joe. I will give it a go.

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Re: OLD LAPTOP

Post by sarge816 » Wed May 08, 2019 11:13 am

I second that suggestion to try Linux Mint Xfce. If you don't mind replacing the hard drive, a small SSD will vastly improve the boot times and response of the system more than any other upgrade you could possibly make to that old computer. Pretty sure your HD is an early SATA so most current SSDs should work fine. Talking $20 for what will feel like a new computer.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-120GB-S ... B01N6JQS8C

edit: For reference, I'm typing this on an equally ancient yr2007 Dell m6300 with C2Duo 2.5GHz CPU / 4GB DDR2 667 / 120GB SSD on LM19.1 Xfce and boot times are less than 30 seconds. Performance is superb for every task I throw at it.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by missmoondog » Wed May 08, 2019 12:10 pm

have an old toshiba laptop here also that i run lubuntu on it with xfce and it runs fairly well. definitely doesn't take 5 minutes to get to desktop. it only has 2 GB's memory and a single core 1.5ghz cpu also.

installing mint xfce should make a decent difference. been debating on switching that laptop over to mint as all my other machines have mint. just been to lazy to give it a try.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by ron23565 » Wed May 08, 2019 1:07 pm

Many thx everyone for giving me a few suggestions. Its good to hear that my old laptop can be put to some use with a linux OS tailored for an older machine such as mine. The SSD to replace the old HDD is another very good suggestion. :D

I am so fed up with Windows 10 and its uncontrolled bloat it will be refreshing to work with an OS which does what you want it to do without all the extra rubbish.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by br1anstorm » Wed May 08, 2019 7:03 pm

I'm a Mint loyalist....and use Mint XFCE version because I like it and because it's fairly light on resources.

But I too have a couple of older and feebler computers, and I have to say that MXLinux runs superbly on them. MX
Linux also uses the XFCE desktop environment but unlike Mint is not based directly on Ubuntu - which in a way is also a plus point (not having all eggs in one basket.....).

So I'd say, give MXLinux a try. It's still offered in 32-bit version, and will work with non-pae processors, two other good points when trying to keep older machines running.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by lsemmens » Wed May 08, 2019 11:04 pm

Another suggestion to help the older lappies, if they can handle SATA then an SSD might be a worthy investment.
Kernel: 4.15.0-46-generic x86_64 bits
Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.9
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Laptop HP-ProBook-470-G2 8Gb RAM SSD
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+ three other Mint machines
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Re: Old laptop

Post by Dot_mdb » Wed May 08, 2019 11:19 pm

I have an old Dell 1505 with a Intel T2050 cpu which benchmarks lower than the OP's. It has the original hard drive installed and is running 32 bit Linux Mint Xfce. It boots in 1 minute 30 seconds. Seems unlikely to me that the difference between Xfce and Cinnamon would cause a difference of more than 3 minutes in boot time. Something else is probably holding up the boot.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by I2k4 » Thu May 09, 2019 10:54 am

I doubt it's the laptop's age or specs - it's M19.1. I recently replaced M17.3, which I'd run happily and snappily for four years through all the point releases, with M19.1 on several machines and both the 32 bit installs and 64 bit Live USB testers are taking much longer to boot than either M17.x or Windows. No idea if it's the underlying Ubuntu or the Mint implementation, but it's a drag. Fortunately, Mint's running quite well once it gets there, and it's not necessary to reboot all that often.
TRUST BUT VERIFY any advice from anybody, including me. M18.3 XFCE (Dell 1520) 32 bit. Dual booting M19.1 XFCE / W7 (Acer netbook) and M19.1 Cinnamon / W7 (Lenovo desktop) 64 bit.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by ron23565 » Thu May 09, 2019 12:39 pm

Well I installed Mint 19.1 Xfce to replace Cinnamon with not much difference. My old laptop took quite a while to boot up. Its quite a strange behaviour. After 2 minutes the mint logo appears then it goes black for another two minutes and the drive does absolutely nothing. Then suddenly the drive comes back to life and splutters away for a further 2 minutes. Then as if by magic the desktop appears. The funny thing is that all the applications run quite swiftly so the only problem seems to be the bootup. Something is preventing a swift bootup. What could cause this slow bootup ?
The spec for the laptop is : RAM 4GB, HDD 120 GB, 32 bit, Intel Centrino Duo Processor T5250 (1.5 GHz) Bus 667 MHz.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by deepakdeshp » Thu May 09, 2019 1:41 pm

If I have helped you solve a problem, please add [SOLVED] to your first post title, it helps other users looking for help, and keeps the forum clean.
I am using Mint 19.1 Cinnamon 64 bit with AMD A8/7410 processor . Memory 8GB

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Re: Old laptop

Post by Larry78723 » Thu May 09, 2019 1:50 pm

Please open a terminal and run the following command

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inxi -Fxz
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systemd-analyze blame
Highlight the results and copy them (ctrl-shft-c) then paste them in your reply. Enclose the results between the code markers by selecting </> from the mini toolbar above the textbox where you type your reply.

The results will help us to help you.
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Re: Old laptop

Post by ron23565 » Thu May 09, 2019 2:25 pm

Well I have done as you asked Larry not that I have a clue what it all means ! The first section of code deals with the first command. The second command didnt even finish properly as lengthy as it is. The results are given below :

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System:
  Host: xxxxxxxx-Satellite-A200 Kernel: 4.15.0-20-generic i686 bits: 32
  compiler: gcc v: 7.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa
  base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite A200 v: PSAE3E-07H027EN
  serial: <filter>
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: ISKAA v: 1.00 serial: <filter> BIOS: TOSHIBA v: 2.20
  date: 03/10/2008
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 44.4 Wh condition: 44.4/44.4 Wh (100%)
  model: TOSHIBA PA3534U status: Unknown
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo T5550 bits: 64 type: MCP
  arch: Core Merom rev: D L2 cache: 2048 KiB
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 7315
  Speed: 998 MHz min/max: 1000/1833 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 998 2: 998
system
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics
  vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel
  bus ID: 00:02.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
  resolution: 1280x800~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 2.1 Mesa 18.2.8
  direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.15.0-20-generic
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet
  vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI
  port: 3000 bus ID: 04:00.0
  IF: enp4s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network driver: iwl3945
  v: in-tree:s port: 3000 bus ID: 05:00.0
  IF: wlp5s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Realtek type: USB driver: rtl8xxxu bus ID: 2-5:3
  IF: wlx001ea6c37de2 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 12.94 GiB (11.6%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Fujitsu model: MHY2120BH size: 111.79 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 105.57 GiB used: 12.94 GiB (12.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 3.99 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 168 Uptime: 3h 42m Memory: 3.94 GiB used: 562.6 MiB (14.0%)
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.4.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.19
  inxi: 3.0.27

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Re: Old laptop

Post by ron23565 » Fri May 10, 2019 12:49 pm

Im sure this problem is universal - MS Fonts. I have gone through all the various methods of getting MS Fonts and I end up with a what looks like 5 or 6 additional fonts. Why is this problem so maddening ? There are dozens of foreign looking fonts which are of no use yet we can never get our hands on the MS ones !

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Re: Old laptop

Post by Larry78723 » Fri May 10, 2019 3:19 pm

Ron, to get the MS fonts go to https://packages.debian.org/en/sid/all/ ... r/download and click on the first listing under North America. After it downloads, click on open and the installer will come up then click on install.

To remove all those asian fonts go to https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... t.html#ID8 and follow the instructions there.
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Re: Old laptop

Post by NChewie » Fri May 10, 2019 3:33 pm

I agree with the SSD recommendation. Currently I am running Cinnamon 19.1 on an old laptop with very similar specs to the OP - but using an SSD. Bootup takes about 15 seconds - much quicker than Win 7 on my dual boot. The system runs very well.

System:
Host: nc-Satellite-C650 Kernel: 4.15.0-48-generic x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 7.3.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.0.10
Distro: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C650 v: PSC08E-033001EN
serial: <filter>
Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC serial: <filter> BIOS: INSYDE v: 1.60
date: 03/18/2011
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 15.5 Wh condition: 27.2/47.5 Wh (57%) model: N/A
status: Discharging
CPU:
Topology: Dual Core model: Celeron T3300 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn
rev: A L2 cache: 1024 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 7979
Speed: 1995 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1995 2: 1995
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics
vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel
Toshiba Satellite Pro C650-191 LM19.1 Cinnamon

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Re: Old laptop

Post by ron23565 » Sat May 11, 2019 11:04 am

Thanks for your reply Larry. I tried your suggestion but it didnt work even after a reboot. It seems the MS Fonts problem is too difficult to solve. The Asian fonts - its difficult to say if I have removed any there are loads on there and the moment. Its not a good outcome but someone somewhere will come up with a solution.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by ron23565 » Sat May 11, 2019 11:06 am

Thanks for your reply NChewie. I plan to get an SSD installed next week. No doubt that will bring up another load of problems.

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Re: Old laptop

Post by NChewie » Sat May 11, 2019 6:27 pm

I plan to get an SSD installed next week.
Here is how I went about it, back in 2015:
viewtopic.php?t=211669
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