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Solved Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by Patrickclaims » Wed May 08, 2019 10:48 am

My machine and Linux Mint are humming along nicely. But I read that the latest Kernel is now 5.1 or even 5.2; so my question is: do I wait for Linux Mint to tell me to upgrade or do I hunt for the latest and attempt to install it?
Patrick

Thanks everyone for the guidance (and fixing my typo on Kernel!). As a newbie, I will wait for Linux Mint to tell when to update the Kernel. Maybe some day when I gain some expertise I will push the limits!

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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernal 5.X

Post by sleeper12 » Wed May 08, 2019 11:01 am

I'd wait, no need to rush. Not sure which Mint version you have, but on 19, I have kernel 4.15.0-48.

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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by Moem » Wed May 08, 2019 11:03 am

Wait until it is offered to you by the Mint Updater, so you can be sure that it's supported to be used on Mint. Also consider: is there an actual problem that would be solved by installing a newer kernel?
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by Cyberphy » Wed May 08, 2019 11:10 am

I would wait until the Mint Team update the kernel
Right now im using Kernel 4.15.0-48 with no problems
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by Pjotr » Wed May 08, 2019 11:28 am

Patrickclaims wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 10:48 am
My machine and Linux Mint are humming along nicely.
Upgrading the kernel when there's no valid reason to, makes no sense at all. Newer isn't always better. Stick to the officially supported kernels for your Linux Mint. :wink:
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by missmoondog » Wed May 08, 2019 12:17 pm

aw, come on you people that replied. how can you be "geeky" if not trying the latest and greatest even if you almost know it might break things!! :)

i'd also say stick with what the updater offers.

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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by mediclaser » Wed May 08, 2019 12:31 pm

The latest and greatest won't let me install the driver for my WiFi adapter. I'll stick with what Mint gives me.
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by dancer_69 » Wed May 08, 2019 2:21 pm

I have already install 5.1, after I read about ukuu(an application for installing-update ubuntu kernels), and works fine on my machine so far. I don't believe that can harm to install the latest kernels if you have also the latest officially supported installed. It's very easy to boot to it from grub menu if some problems occur.

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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by Pjotr » Wed May 08, 2019 2:33 pm

dancer_69 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 2:21 pm
ukuu(an application for installing-update ubuntu kernels)
Don't use UKUU:
https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... ml#ID6.3.2
(item 6.3.2)
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by phd21 » Wed May 08, 2019 2:55 pm

Hi Patrickclaims,

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

If your system is working well, then there is no good reason to update the Linux Kernel to a newer one. If you have much newer computer hardware or some hardware which a newer Linux Kernel would now be natively supported as part of the Kernel, then updating to a newer Kernel would make sense.

As others have already stated, I have a USB WiFI adapter that is plug-n-play with Linux (like a "Panda" n300 using the realtek chipset) which works perfectly without installing any drivers, but I also have a low-cost dual-band WiFi adapter for testing which requires installing drivers to match the Linux Kernel and that could not be done with the Linux Kernel 5 series so far (Update: just found out they updated the driver so now it works with Kernel 5.1, but had to go through dkms procedures to use it.).

Linux Kernel 5.0 Released! Check Out The New Features
https://itsfoss.com/linux-kernel-5/

Linus Torvalds Releases Linux 5.1 With Lots Of New Features
https://fossbytes.com/linux-5-1-kernel- ... oad-linus/

I used this script program to update my Linux Kernel - use low latency kernels if you are doing video or audio production.
ubuntu-mainline-kernel.sh: Bash script for Ubuntu (and derivatives) to easily (un)install kernels from the Ubuntu Kernel PPA
https://github.com/pimlie/ubuntu-mainline-kernel.sh

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by gm10 » Wed May 08, 2019 2:58 pm

Pjotr wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 2:33 pm
dancer_69 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 2:21 pm
ukuu(an application for installing-update ubuntu kernels)
Don't use UKUU:
https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... ml#ID6.3.2
(item 6.3.2)
On that note, is that warning in my Update Manager good enough or will I earn an extra warning on your page as well?! ;) (tried it yet? you wanted to let me know)
mintupdate-expert.png
As to the question in the OP: As others have said, unless you want to test it there's no reason to. If you do, do it on a dedicated testing rig or at least have backups. For a few months mainline series 4.18-4.20 corrupted your ext4 file system in certain situations before that got fixed. 'nuff said.

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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by Pjotr » Wed May 08, 2019 3:14 pm

gm10 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 2:58 pm
On that note, is that warning in my Update Manager good enough or will I earn an extra warning on your page as well?! ;) (tried it yet? you wanted to let me know)
mintupdate-expert.png
Sorry, haven't tried that yet....

But it looks like an adequate warning. :)
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by OveS » Wed May 08, 2019 3:22 pm

Well, I installed kernel 5.1 using Ukuu and everything seems to be working OK.

I read that there are improvements for AMD Ryzen systems and Vega graphics. That's precisely what I have in my 3 month old Ideapad 530S-14ARR.

Previously I was on kernel 4.18, and had to install two "tweaks" for wifi and touchpad. Thanks to dkms I suppose these migrated to kernel 5.1
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by gm10 » Wed May 08, 2019 3:27 pm

OveS wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 3:22 pm
Well, I installed kernel 5.1 using Ukuu and everything seems to be working OK.
As long as you know how to recover when it's not working that's fine. 5.1 works well for me as well, but the release candidates of that same series that I had tried had left my series unbootable. That aside, for 5.0 there are tested Ubuntu kernels available - not yet in Update Manager but Ubuntu 19.04 just released with that series (so you cold grab it from their repository if you cannot wait until it hits the Mint repos - which it will eventually, after some more testing on that platform).

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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by OveS » Wed May 08, 2019 4:34 pm

I did try with two different 5.0 kernels. If I remember correctly it was 5.0.4 and 5.0.6. Did not work.
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Re: Should I update to Linux Kernel 5.X

Post by gm10 » Wed May 08, 2019 4:41 pm

OveS wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 4:34 pm
I did try with two different 5.0 kernels. If I remember correctly it was 5.0.4 and 5.0.6. Did not work.
So 4.18 worked, 5.0 didn't but 5.1 does again? Interesting. That's pretty rare.

Anyway, just to conclude, your case is different from OP's. If someone asks "should I" we always answer like everybody did. But you've got a technical reason for upgrading then that's why the options exist and somebody would have pointed you to a kernel upgrade had you asked. It's not black & white. ;)

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