Whats different about debian mint?

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Whats different about debian mint?

Post by Phiver » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:37 am

I tried Linux Mint a couple years ago. I liked it, but when I started learning more about Linux and its derivatives and distros, I found out that it is built on Ubuntu. I then also found out that there is a mint version built on Debian.

What is the difference between the two? Is there an advantage of using one over the other?

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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by Lord Boltar » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:53 am

Might want to have a look here

https://linuxconfig.org/debian-vs-ubuntu
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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by athi » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:07 pm

Here is an article on differences between LMDE and Mint Cinnamon.
http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/linu ... in-edition
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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by Hoser Rob » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:25 am

The main differences to me are that LMDE isn't as beginner friendly, you get older versions of software than Ubuntu based Mint, and you can't add ppa sources. It's more restrictive but also more stable. However I'd never recommend LMDE for newbies.

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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by turtlebay » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:08 pm

When you start using it Debian based distros are far easier to maintain and use than anything based on Ubuntu. If you don't believe that have a look at MX Linux or Antix.

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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by Pjotr » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:15 pm

turtlebay wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:08 pm
When you start using it Debian based distros are far easier to maintain and use than anything based on Ubuntu. If you don't believe that have a look at MX Linux or Antix.
That's bollocks. Ubuntu is Debian made user-friendly, and Mint is Ubuntu made even user-friendlier.
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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by Phiver » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:26 pm

Hoser Rob wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:25 am
...However I'd never recommend LMDE for newbies.
I'm very experienced with Windows, but Linux is pretty new. Could you elaborate on why you would not recommend LMDE for newbies?

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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by Pjotr » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm

Phiver wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:26 pm
Hoser Rob wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:25 am
...However I'd never recommend LMDE for newbies.
I'm very experienced with Windows, but Linux is pretty new. Could you elaborate on why you would not recommend LMDE for newbies?
I don't want to speak for Hoser Rob, but LMDE is less user-friendly and therefore not suitable for beginners with Linux. Linux beginners simply aren't its target group. Therefore I strongly advise to select the main Linux Mint, at least in the beginning.

I myself use the main Linux Mint as well, not because I can't handle LMDE, but because I'm lazy. I love easy. :mrgreen:
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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by deanr72 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:50 am

turtlebay wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:08 pm
When you start using it Debian based distros are far easier to maintain and use than anything based on Ubuntu. If you don't believe that have a look at MX Linux or Antix.
I keep getting tempted by MX Linux and each time after a week or so of use something breaks and I end up re-installing Mint Xfce. Just a few days ago I installed the Nvidia drivers and MX wouldn't boot at all. Did exactly the same thing on Mint Xfce 19.2 with zero problems.

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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by Hoser Rob » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:58 am

Pjotr wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:30 pm
Phiver wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:26 pm
Hoser Rob wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:25 am
...However I'd never recommend LMDE for newbies.
I'm very experienced with Windows, but Linux is pretty new. Could you elaborate on why you would not recommend LMDE for newbies?
I don't want to speak for Hoser Rob, but LMDE is less user-friendly and therefore not suitable for beginners with Linux. Linux beginners simply aren't its target group. Therefore I strongly advise to select the main Linux Mint, at least in the beginning.

I myself use the main Linux Mint as well, not because I can't handle LMDE, but because I'm lazy. I love easy. :mrgreen:
No problem, that's about what I'd say too.

Another thing is that with a Ubuntu based distro you can find all kinds of support info in ubuntuforums.org and askubuntu.com, which are newbie friendly and you cannot argue with that user base. Newbies are going to have a much more difficult time iin the Debian support forums, whcih are decidedly NOT newbie friendly. In fact if you ask the typical sort of newbie question fouind here or ubuntuforums on the Debian equivalent, they will just suggest installing ubuntu or mint.

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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by athi » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:46 am

Stayed away from LMDE3 due to the older Debian9 base, but now that the cutting edge :wink: Debian10 is out, seriously thinking about trying out LMDE4 when it is released.
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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by turtlebay » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:18 pm

Pjotr wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:15 pm
turtlebay wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:08 pm
When you start using it Debian based distros are far easier to maintain and use than anything based on Ubuntu. If you don't believe that have a look at MX Linux or Antix.
That's bollocks. Ubuntu is Debian made user-friendly, and Mint is Ubuntu made even user-friendlier.
Ubuntu maybe based on Debian originally but it doesn't use the Debian repos and is a completely different system nowadays. If that weren't true why do you think Clem goes to all the hassle of making LMDE based on Debian rather than Ubuntu?

Several users of MX have reported the attitude of certain 'gurus' on Mint forums who are highly self opinionated and often misinformed!

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Re: Whats different about debian mint?

Post by Pjotr » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:23 pm

turtlebay wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:18 pm
Ubuntu maybe based on Debian originally but it doesn't use the Debian repos and is a completely different system nowadays.
"Completely different" is bollocks again. See for yourself how closely related it still is:

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cat /etc/debian_version
turtlebay wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:18 pm
why do you think Clem goes to all the hassle of making LMDE based on Debian rather than Ubuntu?
"Its main goal is for the Linux Mint team to see how viable our distribution would be and how much work would be necessary if Ubuntu was ever to disappear."
https://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

In short: it's an insurance policy. A life insurance against the death of Ubuntu.
turtlebay wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:18 pm
Several users of MX have reported the attitude of certain 'gurus' on Mint forums who are highly self opinionated and often misinformed!
I love you too, bro. :lol:
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