Wifi from thumb drive

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Wifi from thumb drive

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Is it possible to run a wifi connection when running from LM 18.3 on a thumb drive?

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Re: Wifi from thumb drive

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Hi stewschneider,

Running Linux Mint from a USB drive is just like running Linux Mint from a hard drive, so yes, you should be able to use your WiFi assuming that your WiFi adapter is recognized by Linux Mint.

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wifi has been a problem for Linux since forever. It's a problem that is slowly being solved, but there are still some wifi chips that are better supported than others. The chip more important the the wifi card maker or the model. Quite often similar models from one maker will have completely chips from each other. Some chips require drivers that need to be installed or compiled from external sources, and some are just built into the Linux kernel stack. That's why identifying the wifi chip is son much more important than the manufacturer, brand name, or even the model number.

That's why you might be able to run wifi from the installer, and sometimes not.

Mine uses a fairly common driver module directly included with almost every known Linux distro, and it just connected to my router the moment it was plugged into my desktop for the very first time, without any help from me. The Ralink chip inside the Panda PAU09 wifi adapter on my desktop unit.

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$ inxi -n
Network:   Card-1: Intel Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V driver: e1000e
           IF: enp0s31f6 state: down mac: 40:8d:5c:ea:0c:f3
           Card-2: Ralink RT5572 Wireless Adapter driver: rt2800usb
           IF: wlx9cefd5fd1623 state: N/A mac: N/A
I feel more like I do than I did when I got here.
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That mirrors my experience. I have two HP laptops. #1 is older and slower, but connects to Starbucks' captive portal just fine. #2 is newer and faster, but won't. #1 runs LM 18.3. #2 runs LM 19.1. I thought maybe the difference between the releases might be my problem, so wanted to run #2 from a USB drive offering 18.3, but given your experience, I think maybe that's not the problem. Do you agree?
"Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
driver: r8168
IF: eno1 state: down mac: e4:e7:49:87:0b:66
Device-2: Realtek driver: rtl8723de
IF: wlo1 state: up mac: d0:c5:d3:d9:fe:5f


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Hi stewschneider,

There are apparently two issues here, the WiFi issue with 2 different laptops and now the "captive portal" issue.

FYI: I have been using USB WiFi adapters since I switched to Linux in 2013 and I have never had any problems. Fortunately, my USB WiFi adapters use the "Realtek" chipset and have been "plug-n-play". I did get another low-cost USB dual-band WiFi adapter for testing stuff which was not plug-n-play, but installing the drivers was not difficult to do.

Make sure this "network-manager-config-connectivity-ubuntu" is installed and it usually is and logout and back in or restart your computer or restart the network-manager service.

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sudo apt install network-manager-config-connectivity-ubuntu
How to fix Network Manager issue with public Wi-Fi connection - CIALU.NET
https://cialu.net/how-to-fix-network-ma ... onnection/

Another post on captive portals.
Please tell me there is a quick fix to the captive portal wifi issue - Linux Mint Forums
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=294949&hilit=captive+portal

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Thanks, phd21! I've done it and have my fingers crossed.
stew

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Don't worry - it even works perfectly in a live session from DVD... on a 10 year old device.
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Alas, phd21. Nuttin'

I wonder if another distribution would serve me better? I've added to /etc/hosts. I've changed the driver for wifi. I tried your suggestion, and simply get nowhere. When I power up, netmanager sees Google Starbucks and gives me a 100% signal rating. I click on it, and net manager shows no signal in the icon display. I've copied the login from my older computer (which does connect) and pasted it into Chrome:

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https://sbux-portal.globalreachtech.com/check?cmd=login&mac=d0:c5:d3:d9:fe:5f&essid=Google%20Starbucks&ip=172.31.98.255&apname=9c%3A1c%3A12%3Ac9%3A7a%3A00&apmac=9c%3A1c%3A12%3Ac9%3A7a%3A00&vcname=S11795-VC&switchip=aruba.odyssys.net&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gstatic.com%2Fgenerate_204
I'm out of ideas. Any suggestions?

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Hi stewschneider,

You are welcome from all of us that replied...

You did make sure to allow pop-up windows right? Temporarily disabling adblockers and other extension add-ons to make sure they are not interfering? Did you try going to those webpages they reference in the links I provided? Did you change your default ISP connection's (ie: Starbucks) DNS servers? Did you try another browser? Maybe there are browser extensions for help with captive portals?

Honestly, I have never had the chance to experiment with "captive portals", and I have no access to them where I currently am, so I cannot test anything related to this.

I do know that it would be safer and more secure to use a portable mini router whenever accessing public WiFi even those at Starbucks, McDonalds, motels, hotels, airports, truck stops, etc...letting the mini router connect to the public wifi and your computer, smartphone, etc... connecting to your mini router with its own security and secure login; some of those mini routers also have special options specifically for "captive portals".

browser extensions for help with captive portals - Google Search
https://www.google.com/search?q=browser ... e&ie=UTF-8

The 6 Best Wireless Travel Routers of 2019
https://www.lifewire.com/top-travel-wir ... rs-2377742

* Amazon.com: GL.iNet GL-AR750S-Ext Gigabit Travel AC Router (Slate), 300Mbps(2.4G)+433Mbps(5G) Wi-Fi, 128MB RAM, MicroSD Support, OpenWrt/LEDE pre-Installed, Cloudflare DNS, Power Adapter and Cables Included: Electronics
https://www.amazon.com/GL-iNet-GL-AR750 ... M4B092GXSX

Amazon.com: GL.iNet GL-AR750 Travel AC Router, 300Mbps(2.4G)+433Mbps(5G) Wi-Fi, 128MB RAM, MicroSD Storage Support, OpenWrt/LEDE pre-Installed, Power Adapter and Cables Included: Computers & Accessories
https://www.amazon.com/GL-iNet-GL-AR750 ... B07712LKJM
Q: How does this handle captive portal logins?
A: Yes, without problems
By Stefan Albrecht on July 7, 2019

Q: Can i connect to a hotels wifi and advertise my own wifi ssid?
A: Yes, thats the idea behind, the Hotel Captiva will be forwarded to any client in your network.
By Stefan Albrecht on July 7, 2019
Hope this helps ...
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