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Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:47 pm

Just a week or so ago, my mouse has gone crazy. It just clicks everywhere. Opening, closing, and deleting everything. It has made things impossible to use. And before anyone says to get a new mouse, I have 3. None work. Now, I tried my Windows dual boot, and have the same problem! But I don't know where to ask this. There is no way my 1 year old mouse, and 2 new ones are all defective. I have also tried different USB ports, as well as an adapter. Any advice? Thanks guys.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by all41 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:48 pm

Hi @fresh_breath,
I see this is your first post so Welcome to the forums.
I found that booting among different os caused problems with my mouse, particularly the scroll.
The solution I use is to unplug the usb stub (receiver) and replug back in.
Try booting to your Mint install dvd/usb .iso following a cold powerup and try it there.
Having the problem with multiple os I would even condiser a bios reset.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:21 am

Why is this question against the rules?

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by Larry78723 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:34 am

Who said anything about the question being "against the rules"? It would help if you provided an inxi -Fxz report. This will give us a concise overview of your hardware and on how Mint sees it.

Here is how to generate the report and post it:

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by rene » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:37 am

Wired or wireless mouse/mice? And "an adapter" adapting from what to what?

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by decrepit » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:43 am

If it's happening on windows as well as Mint, every USB port, and several mice are all doing the same thing, it has to be a hardware problem.
Sounds like a noisy connection to me
How do other USB devices work?
If everything else that plugs into a USB port work well, then it's restricted to whatever handles the mouse movements. I've no idea what's involved there, could be individual chips before the data is handed on to the CPU/GPU. Could be a dry solder joint or a damaged chip. This is probably a job for a computer hardware man.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by rene » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:14 pm

Larry78723 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:34 am
Who said anything about the question being "against the rules"?
No one, but he's undoubtedly referring to the fact that first posts from new subscribers are subjected to human moderation as an anti-spam measure. The fact that it/they got posted specifically says nothing was wrong...

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:37 am

decrepit wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:43 am
If it's happening on windows as well as Mint, every USB port, and several mice are all doing the same thing, it has to be a hardware problem.
Sounds like a noisy connection to me
How do other USB devices work?
If everything else that plugs into a USB port work well, then it's restricted to whatever handles the mouse movements. I've no idea what's involved there, could be individual chips before the data is handed on to the CPU/GPU. Could be a dry solder joint or a damaged chip. This is probably a job for a computer hardware man.
Yeah. Strange thing. I don't really know computers much. I am old. But I do try to learn to teach my youngins. My other USB devices work fine. External HDD, keyboard, cellphones, and so on. Just started happening a few weeks ago and I have no idea what could do it.

I asked this question in LinuxMint Reddit and was immediately permabanned. How come?

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by decrepit » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:11 am

Hi fresh-breath. I don't know why you got banned, maybe because it was a dual post? I think that's frowned upon here, I'm fairly new here myself.

OK, an interesting experiment to try, is to unplug the mouse, then tap the laptop, but not the touchpad, and see if you can produce mouse movement that way. If that happens, it confirms a bad connection internally.

So does the touchpad work fine?

Last century I was an electronics tech, so I have a rough idea what's going on, but USB stuff is a bit of a mystery to me. In my day mice, keyboards, printers, etc had their own sockets, so they were hardwired to their destination. Whereas you can plug all sorts of stuff into a USB port and somehow it gets routed to where it needs to go, that's the magic of computers I guess.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:15 am

rene wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:14 pm
Larry78723 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:34 am
Who said anything about the question being "against the rules"?
No one, but he's undoubtedly referring to the fact that first posts from new subscribers are subjected to human moderation as an anti-spam measure. The fact that it/they got posted specifically says nothing was wrong...
Nope. Referring to posting this question to Reddit LinuxMint and immediately receiving a permaban.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:16 am

decrepit wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:43 am
If it's happening on windows as well as Mint, every USB port, and several mice are all doing the same thing, it has to be a hardware problem.
Sounds like a noisy connection to me
How do other USB devices work?
If everything else that plugs into a USB port work well, then it's restricted to whatever handles the mouse movements. I've no idea what's involved there, could be individual chips before the data is handed on to the CPU/GPU. Could be a dry solder joint or a damaged chip. This is probably a job for a computer hardware man.
Yeah, just started maybe 2 weeks ago. Only the mice. I can't even find this on the internet at all!

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:19 am

rene wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:37 am
Wired or wireless mouse/mice? And "an adapter" adapting from what to what?
Wired. From the mouse to the computer. Why?

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:29 am

decrepit wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:11 am
Hi fresh-breath. I don't know why you got banned, maybe because it was a dual post? I think that's frowned upon here, I'm fairly new here myself.

OK, an interesting experiment to try, is to unplug the mouse, then tap the laptop, but not the touchpad, and see if you can produce mouse movement that way. If that happens, it confirms a bad connection internally.

So does the touchpad work fine?

Last century I was an electronics tech, so I have a rough idea what's going on, but USB stuff is a bit of a mystery to me. In my day mice, keyboards, printers, etc had their own sockets, so they were hardwired to their destination. Whereas you can plug all sorts of stuff into a USB port and somehow it gets routed to where it needs to go, that's the magic of computers I guess.
You sound like an old fart like me, talking in centuries.

Ha! The touch pad does not work! I know that worked recently, as I recently had to replace my mouse and monitor setup and just used the laptop for a while. I recalled how awkward the touchpad is, when you are not used to it. But it does not work now.

This has got to be some good evidence in the case for some Sherlock. I usually have some kind of guess as to what might be wrong, but I am completely lost on this one. Could a recent update have something to do with it? My Linux has not been able to make a proper update in a year. Endless errors.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by decrepit » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:30 am

fresh_breath wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:19 am
Wired. From the mouse to the computer. Why?
Just for clarification I guess, assuming stuff can lead to mistakes.
So the thing is, a USB mouse plugs straight into the laptop, without an adapter, so are you using an old PS2 mouse with an adapter to USB? If that's all you were using, it could be the cause of the problem, but I think you said you are using mice that plug straight in as well?

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by decrepit » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:35 am

BIG question is, does the touch pad work in windows?
I'm betting it doesn't.

It's obviously part of the same cct as the mouse, one's gone crazy the other's stopped.

If it doesn't work in windows then it's nothing to do with linux.

Definitely an old fart! That's why my username.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:02 am

decrepit wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:30 am
fresh_breath wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:19 am
Wired. From the mouse to the computer. Why?
Just for clarification I guess, assuming stuff can lead to mistakes.
So the thing is, a USB mouse plugs straight into the laptop, without an adapter, so are you using an old PS2 mouse with an adapter to USB? If that's all you were using, it could be the cause of the problem, but I think you said you are using mice that plug straight in as well?
Oh, I don't know PS2. I usually connect direct. I tried via... a hub. I am not sure if that would change anything, but it often reinstall a device when I connect to the hub. So I thought I would try. I feel weird asking for help. So thank you all.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by rene » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:20 am

fresh_breath wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:19 am
Wired. [ ... ]. Why?
Because in the case of wireless there could've been (some pretty special, but hey...) interference that would've explained the Windows-as-well part.

As to the "adapter" adapting from the mouse to the computer, yah, that was sort of given... but I see you were talking about a USB hub. If it was a non-powered hub, yes, could've generally made a difference. But for now no ideas other than pointing BIOS-wise; try and see if there's anything specific there concerning e,.g. USB power settings.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:13 am

So I disabled the touchpad in bios. But that has done nothing. My LinuxMint seems to crash worse than Win7. And I don't know how to fix it... Also, all my font has accents on it now. Like it's some Slavic language. Also, my Opera crashes every few minutes. If I didn't know better, I would say I had a virus?

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by polarvortex » Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:06 am

If multiple mice plugged in in multiple ways are going nuts in both linux and windows, then this is not a linux problem. And now you've even eliminated the touchpad as the source of the problem by disabling it in bios.

Try running the Mint live dvd, but don't install linux from there and wipe out all your files. Does the problem still occur in there? If it does then the solution is a new computer. In my opinion.

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Re: Mouse has just gone nuts!

Post by fresh_breath » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:12 am

polarvortex wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:06 am
If multiple mice plugged in in multiple ways are going nuts in both linux and windows, then this is not a linux problem. And now you've even eliminated the touchpad as the source of the problem by disabling it in bios.

Try running the Mint live dvd, but don't install linux from there and wipe out all your files. Does the problem still occur in there? If it does then the solution is a new computer. In my opinion.
How do I do the Mint live DVD? I looked it up online, but can't seem to get it to work. I can't get a new computer. I no longer live in a wealthy country. At 5 cents an hour, I am lucky I have power to run this and access to the internet. Ha ha.

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