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Re: building a gaming computer for Linux Mint 19.2

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The above identical parts list minus swapping out a Ryzen AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU and Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA MOB resulted in a total cost of $1987.

The Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz parts list above is $2098.

Which list would you all choose?

Also, do I need the CPU cooler (Scythe Ninja 5 43.03 CFM CPU Cooler) if the AMD Ryzen has a built in cooling fan??
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daverader1 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Which list would you all choose?
I'd choose the 3700X for its lower power consumption.
daverader1 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Also, do I need the CPU cooler (Scythe Ninja 5 43.03 CFM CPU Cooler) if the AMD Ryzen has a built in cooling fan??
AMD's included CPU cooler is enough.
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Joss wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:56 pm
daverader1 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Which list would you all choose?
I'd choose the 3700X for its lower power consumption.
daverader1 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Also, do I need the CPU cooler (Scythe Ninja 5 43.03 CFM CPU Cooler) if the AMD Ryzen has a built in cooling fan??
AMD's included CPU cooler is enough.

What if I decide to over-clock?
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The best cooling I have heard of for overclocking is the computer dropped out the window into snow. :shock:
I do not know about the recent AMD coolers. My experience of all Intel coolers and older AMD coolers is simple. Do not use them if you have to sit in the same room. :x

Noctua 140mm fans are the quietest. I did use a Scythe low profile fan in a previous configuration. I could hear it when it ramped up for some software activity.
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daverader1 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:18 pm
What if I decide to over-clock?
Overclock brings meagre gains with Ryzen, I'd leave it on stock.
If you must delve into overclock better go with Intel.
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Joss wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:36 am
daverader1 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:18 pm
What if I decide to over-clock?
Overclock brings meagre gains with Ryzen, I'd leave it on stock.
Nonsense. My Ryzen 2700X server is running at 5GHz.
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catweazel wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:09 am
Nonsense. My Ryzen 2700X server is running at 5GHz.
With respect I have to take that with a large grain of salt.
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Joss wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:58 am
catweazel wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:09 am
Nonsense. My Ryzen 2700X server is running at 5GHz.
With respect I have to take that with a large grain of salt.
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boot@AX370:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: AX370 Kernel: 5.0.0-27-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.4.0
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.16.5 (Qt 5.12.3) Distro: KDE neon User Edition 5.16
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Gigabyte product: AX370-Gaming 5 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: AX370-Gaming 5 serial: N/A UEFI: American Megatrends v: F41 date: 07/30/2019
Battery    hidpp__1: charge: N/A condition: NA/NA Wh model: Logitech MX Ergo Multi-Device Trackball status: Full
CPU:       8 core AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core (-MT-MCP-) arch: Zen rev.2 cache: 4096 KB
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           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 0d:00.3
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Drives:    HDD Total Size: 9237.3GB (68.9% used)
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RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: No active sensors found. Have you configured your sensors yet? mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:39C
Info:      Processes: 313 Uptime: 19 min Memory: 885.5/32173.6MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.201) inxi: 2.3.56
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What's the voltage and what's the cooling?
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catweazel wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:09 am
Joss wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:36 am
daverader1 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:18 pm
What if I decide to over-clock?
Overclock brings meagre gains with Ryzen, I'd leave it on stock.
Nonsense. My Ryzen 2700X server is running at 5GHz.

I believe he is specifically referring to the Ryzen 7 3700X. I have read at least 2 articles online from legitimate hardware testing sites that prove his point.
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daverader1 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:36 pm
I believe he is specifically referring to the Ryzen 7 3700X
No, I'm referring to Ryzen in general.
TechPowerUp only managed a 4.2GHz OC on the 2700X (on air cooling) and that's with a very high 1.4 volts, see snapshot.
For catweazel to manage those clocks he showed he has to have a very exotic liquid cooling loop.
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He might be one of those people who sits their computers outside in the snow. :D
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Petermint wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:55 pm
He might be one of those people who sits their computers outside in the snow. :D
:lol:
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Petermint wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:55 pm
He might be one of those people who sits their computers outside in the snow. :D
Actually, I won the silicon lottery, and the cooler is a 3-fan AIO ASUS Ryujin 360.
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With long hoses, you could throw the radiator out in the snow. :lol:
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I use the Noctua NH-C14S style coolers for quiet in a small space. The water cooling systems with Noctua fans could be quiet if the radiator is horizontal to encourage natural airflow (assuming you have the shelf space and bushfires are not making your house hot). Boil the water to remove the gases that build up to a gurgling sound. Use a hugely oversized radiator. Add a NF-A14 PWM fan to cool around the CPU area.

Some of the new motherboards have fans all over the support chips. I wonder if they can be replaced by big heatsinks and PWM fans.
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This is my current build/parts list. I have already ordered everything minus the GPU.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mc3K4n

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB AORUS Video Card
Case: NZXT H710i ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Elite Wired Optical Mouse

I ordered a Razer Raptor 27" monitor directly from Razer. WQHD IPS 2560 x 1440 with 144Hz refresh rate, HDR400, 1ms response time, and supports both AMD Freesync and NVIDIA G-sync compatible standards. My question is this...will the above video card suffice to fully utilize the brilliant range of the Razer? Or should I be stepping up to the 2080 Super or some other GPU?

I'm thinking the 2080 Ti series is overkill.
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daverader1 wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:40 am
I ordered a Razer Raptor 27" monitor directly from Razer. WQHD IPS 2560 x 1440 with 144Hz refresh rate, HDR400, 1ms response time, and supports both AMD Freesync and NVIDIA G-sync compatible standards. My question is this...will the above video card suffice to fully utilize the brilliant range of the Razer?
Check this review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvid ... 070-super/
lots of charts to decide.
I'd say the 2070 Super is fine for a x1440p resolution.
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Joss wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:58 am
daverader1 wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:40 am
I ordered a Razer Raptor 27" monitor directly from Razer. WQHD IPS 2560 x 1440 with 144Hz refresh rate, HDR400, 1ms response time, and supports both AMD Freesync and NVIDIA G-sync compatible standards. My question is this...will the above video card suffice to fully utilize the brilliant range of the Razer?
Check this review: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvid ... 070-super/
lots of charts to decide.
I'd say the 2070 Super is fine for a x1440p resolution.

Yeah, I'm confident as well re: performance of the 2070 Super with a 1440p resolution. The relatively high refresh rate (144Hz) is what makes me consider the upgrade to 2080 Super or another model.
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catweazel wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:00 am
Actually, I won the silicon lottery, and the cooler is a 3-fan AIO ASUS Ryujin 360.
I just checked out that cooler. Man, that thing is bad-ass! Do you have those fans mounted to the back of the case?
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