Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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decrepit wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:24 am
Yes, spaces do not work in linux.
I'm not nitpicking here. That's not true at all. Spaces must be escaped or they must be path quoted when using the command line. It's a *nix thing, not a *nux thing. It is different when one does not need to rely on the command line. GUIs handle spaces just fine.
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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decrepit wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:24 am
So why are you playing with grub? You only play with grub if you want to change the way the system boots.
Because I just copied the command you told me to use.

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xed admin:///etc/default/grub
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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Did I do that? BIG worry! Sorry, I think I'm confusing you more than helping you here.

OK so lets have another go

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xed admin:///etc/fstab
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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Grarea wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:39 am
decrepit wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:24 am
So why are you playing with grub? You only play with grub if you want to change the way the system boots.
Because I just copied the command you told me to use.

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xed admin:///etc/default/grub
Oh, dear.

Try xed admin:///etc/fstab.
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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That's ok.
I am a bit confused, but there is no way I could guess all this is there.
:D
I really appreciate you helping me.

Yup, I realised that was probably what you meant.
It is now mounted when I rebooted, thanks loads, that is great.


Ummm, can I ask another quick question?
Do you know if it is easy to muck about with the 'Places' ?
Might be nice to have some shortcuts to it there.
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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Grarea wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:54 am

Ummm, can I ask another quick question?
It might be a quick question, but I have no idea if it is a quick answer. 8)
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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Hmm, I have been trying to sort some sort of shortcut to here.
I thought i could put it to desktop, but all I am managing to do is copy it to desktop, which copies all of the files back to the drive with Home on doesn't it?

I have tried following some suggestions but either they are too old or I am getting it wrong.
It seems a bit clunky going Files>File System>Mnt>Files(Name of my SSD)>The folder I want
Each time I want to access something
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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You mentioned you are using Cinnamon, do in Cinnamon you can enable mounted volumes on the desktop.

Right click an empty spot on the desktop wallpaper.
Select the Desktop Settings.
Mounted volumes slider to on.


Alternatively, you can create a launcher to open the file power at the mount point location.

Right click an empty spot on the desktop wallpaper.
Select the +Create a new launcher here option.

Name: Your_Meaningful_Name

Command: xdg-open /your_mount_point

Comments: Your_comment

When finished click the OK button at the bottom.

The xdg-open will cause the file browser to open at the /your_mountpoint location. You need to provide the appropriate information for the your_... items.
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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Hi Grarea, Glad it finally worked and my flawed instructions didn't crash your computer!

Just in case the previous instructions don't work, I do the link a different way, because I'm using mate not cinnamon.
But this should work to get a link to your desktop, as long as you replace "mike" with your name, and "misc" with the name of your directory.
first make directory in Desktop, note the capital D

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mkdir /home/mike/Desktop/misc
Then a symbolic link to it

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 sudo ln -s /mnt/misc /home/mike/Desktop/misc
I don't have "places" in mate, but if you can find it in your file browser, substituting it's path in the above may work.
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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I managed to set up a shortcut on my desktop.
To the main folder on the drive.
Sort of forgotten how.
Somewhere in file browser. I'll look again.

I can't seem to get my head around how to think about it. I feel like i am missing something basic.
It seems like mnt is on the 250gb boot drive. But in mnt are the folders that are on the 1tb storage drive.
Poxy windows in my head.


deck_luck wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:49 pm
You mentioned you are using Cinnamon, do in Cinnamon you can enable mounted volumes on the desktop.

Right click an empty spot on the desktop wallpaper.
Select the Desktop Settings.
Mounted volumes slider to on.
Thanks
That shows a drive when I put another drive in and mount it. (which is also useful.)
when it is in devices.
It doesn't show the drives that are 'internal' ie my 250gb boot drive and my 1tb storage drive.
deck_luck wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:49 pm

Alternatively, you can create a launcher to open the file power at the mount point location.

Right click an empty spot on the desktop wallpaper.
Select the +Create a new launcher here option.

Name: Your_Meaningful_Name

Command: xdg-open /your_mount_point

Comments: Your_comment

When finished click the OK button at the bottom.

The xdg-open will cause the file browser to open at the /your_mountpoint location. You need to provide the appropriate information for the your_... items.
Ah, yes, that was it.
That is what I did. Or something similar. GIves me a shortcut.
Thanks
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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decrepit wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:43 pm
Hi Grarea, Glad it finally worked and my flawed instructions didn't crash your computer!
:lol: Me too.
All good.
decrepit wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:43 pm
Just in case the previous instructions don't work, I do the link a different way, because I'm using mate not cinnamon.
But this should work to get a link to your desktop, as long as you replace "mike" with your name, and "misc" with the name of your directory.
first make directory in Desktop, note the capital D

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mkdir /home/mike/Desktop/misc
Then a symbolic link to it

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 sudo ln -s /mnt/misc /home/mike/Desktop/misc
I don't have "places" in mate, but if you can find it in your file browser, substituting it's path in the above may work.
Gotcha, done it, that works.
I'll remember where this thread is for the future.
Thanks.

Right, boy, i need hand holding at every step doing this.
Time for food, then look into getting permission to write to this HDD I have now put in to back up to.
I am sure that is an easy one to look up.

Thanks again for everyone's input.
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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Grarea wrote:
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:10 pm

Gotcha, done it, that works.
Which you clearly know it does.
What I mean by that is that i am proud of myself that I could copy and follow some instructions :D
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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Sorry, another 'quick' question :)

I am using standard internal HDDs as backup machines (I am sure there is a better way, but I will come to that another time, (unless it is simple))
As the 'internal' drives are showing up as 'devices', does that mean i can remove them fromm the pc without powering down?
Like you can if you unmount your phone or card drive etc.
They are plugged into the internal sata power and data cables.

I really am missing basic knowledge here.
So, I read that this is the command to change permissions on the drive:

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sudo chmod ugo+rwx /media/username/your_drive
But I can't work out the name of the drive.

When I do blkid it doesn't show up.
Should it? I have got lost again.
Or is it sdb1?

'Files' (sdc1) is my main 1TB storage. It was sdb before.
I haven't changed that, but have added the 500gb. Does it depend which sata data cable is being used that gives its letter priority?
If so, I need to change that, I daren't have my main drive changing it's letter.

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graham@G-LinuxPC:~$ blkid
/dev/sda1: UUID="AFD2-930D" TYPE="vfat" PARTLABEL="EFI System Partition" PARTUUID="1a9c43c7-1980-479e-8026-e151f53a1805"
/dev/sda2: UUID="79aeb40c-12a4-4eb7-8b6d-7f6e4eafe660" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="08ba9f9b-815a-45d9-872f-d46605214373"
/dev/sdb1: UUID="ac0eda85-c437-4823-b0f6-7f0fb188fb03" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="26f539c7-01"
/dev/sdc: LABEL="Files" UUID="8a2e7ec6-dcff-4a99-bdd3-555638d1833e" TYPE="ext4"
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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OK, lets see if I can resolve some of your questions. Linux "mounts" directories in the file system, so you can mount a directory, from any drive, in the main "tree structure". An auto mount usually puts stuff in "media", but that doesn't mean it's safe to unplug live. Certainly you should never unplug anything without umounting it first, that can cause file corruption.
I've never tried removing a drive while still powered up. I prefer not to work on internals while powered, it's safer all round, if you short something out who knows what damage you'll do.

I use an external usb hard drive for back, they come very big these days.

I'm not sure about drive numbers, I remember in the old days before using the UUID drive numbers seemed to change randomly. so may be where they are plugged in or could even be how quick they fire up. But it doesn't really matter as the UUID doesn't change.
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Re: Installing and formatting a new 860 EVO SSD

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OK, thanks.
I assumed I wouldn't be able to unplug an internal even if unmounted, but it might have been one of those things.

Having a pleasing but dull day backing up and sorting stuff.
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