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Alternative to Chromium?

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Hi- I just upgraded from 19.3 to 20.0 and discovered that I can no longer install Chromium through Software Manager or Synaptic. The included Firefox is fine, but I like to have a second browser that is not Firefox based. Can anyone suggest an alternative to Chromium? Thanks. -Howard
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Howard_P wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:41 pm
Hi- I just upgraded from 19.3 to 20.0 and discovered that I can no longer install Chromium through Software Manager or Synaptic. The included Firefox is fine, but I like to have a second browser that is not Firefox based. Can anyone suggest an alternative to Chromium? Thanks. -Howard
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Additionally, the latest blog post ( https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3969 ) mentions this news about it:
Chromium

We’re happy to confirm we will be packaging Chromium going forward and providing updates through the official repositories.

We noticed significant delays between official releases and the versions available in almost all Linux distributions. For this reason we set up our own packaging and we’re building directly from upstream.

Some of the patches from Debian and Ubuntu were also imported. If you want to test our build and provide feedback you can download Chromium from the links below:

Mint 20: https://linuxmint.com/tmp/blog/3969/chr ... _amd64.deb
LMDE 4: http://linuxmint.com/tmp/blog/3969/chro ... _amd64.deb

Remove any version of Chromium or ungoogled-chromium you might have prior to installing this one.
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Howard_P wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:41 pm
Hi- I just upgraded from 19.3 to 20.0 and discovered that I can no longer install Chromium through Software Manager or Synaptic. The included Firefox is fine, but I like to have a second browser that is not Firefox based. Can anyone suggest an alternative to Chromium? Thanks. -Howard
Search for Vivaldi. It is a great choice and is based on the same Blink engine that was developed by Chromium developers and which Chromium also currently uses.

You may also wish to try the Brave browser. It stresses security. It is a bit of a hassle to install, requiring a PPA, but it is a decent browser and is also based on Chromium.

I was going to also recommend Opera, which I've used for over 20 years but, they are having a small issue right now wherein the menu and right click option doesn't work if you don't have hardware acceleration enabled. Very uncharacteristic of them but, I couldn't recommend it to others at this point because of that.

None of the browsers listed above are based on Firefox.
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just about all of the recently released Web Browsers:
- are now based upon the Chromium project.

on my PCs there is Vivaldi,, Brave,, PaleMoon,, as well as that Firefox browser.
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I installed Chromium with snap
https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-linux-mint
sudo snap install chromium

You can also use Chrome
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Pierre wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:07 am
just about all of the recently released Web Browsers:
- are now based upon the Chromium project.

on my PCs there is Vivaldi,, Brave,, PaleMoon,, as well as that Firefox browser.
:)
Two of the ones in your list, Pale Moon and Firefox, aren't.
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I've been using Brave as my Chromium replacement and it is a pretty nice modern spin on a non-google-owned-chrome chromium based browser. You can ignore much of it's added complexity and use it like you used Chromium, for when Firefox is not co-operating with a website etc.
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CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:28 am
Pierre wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:07 am
just about all of the recently released Web Browsers:
- are now based upon the Chromium project.

on my PCs there is Vivaldi,, Brave,, PaleMoon,, as well as that Firefox browser.
:)
Two of the ones in your list, Pale Moon and Firefox, aren't.
that Firefox is definitely, now based on the Chromium project . .
- has been, for most of this year, too.
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Firefox using Chromium code? Bazinga! :lol:
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You don't have to switch from chromium, Clem describes several ways to install here:
https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedoc ... omium.html
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Pierre wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:12 am
CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:28 am
Pierre wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:07 am
just about all of the recently released Web Browsers:
- are now based upon the Chromium project.

on my PCs there is Vivaldi,, Brave,, PaleMoon,, as well as that Firefox browser.
:)
Two of the ones in your list, Pale Moon and Firefox, aren't.
that Firefox is definitely, now based on the Chromium project . .
- has been, for most of this year, too.
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Is "That Firefox" a browser or are you talking about regular, old Mozilla Firefox? I didn't know the regular Firefox was now using Chromium's Blink rendering engine.
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CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:17 am
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Is "That Firefox" a browser or are you talking about regular, old Mozilla Firefox? I didn't know the regular Firefox was now using Chromium's Blink rendering engine.
It isn't. Pierre is mistaken. He's a moderator so he's also only a demigod.
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They still use the Quantum builds of Gecko for both Desktop and Android versions of Firefox.
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Howard_P wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:41 pm
Can anyone suggest an alternative to Chromium?
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Vladimir00 wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:48 am
I installed Chromium with snap
https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-linux-mint
sudo snap install chromium

You can also use Chrome
CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:49 am
Howard_P wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:41 pm
Hi- I just upgraded from 19.3 to 20.0 and discovered that I can no longer install Chromium through Software Manager or Synaptic. The included Firefox is fine, but I like to have a second browser that is not Firefox based. Can anyone suggest an alternative to Chromium? Thanks. -Howard
Search for Vivaldi. It is a great choice and is based on the same Blink engine that was developed by Chromium developers and which Chromium also currently uses.

You may also wish to try the Brave browser. It stresses security. It is a bit of a hassle to install, requiring a PPA, but it is a decent browser and is also based on Chromium.

I was going to also recommend Opera, which I've used for over 20 years but, they are having a small issue right now wherein the menu and right click option doesn't work if you don't have hardware acceleration enabled. Very uncharacteristic of them but, I couldn't recommend it to others at this point because of that.

None of the browsers listed above are based on Firefox.

not sure about chromium, as i don't have that installed, but as far as opera, you have to install that after installing snap and opera doesn't appear to be updating as it should in mint 20. i have a topic here asking how to remove snap and opera just because of that reason. can't even do that using synaptic.

as far as an easy to install chromium based browser that you can install, grab the vivaldi deb file from here, https://vivaldi.com/download/ and it will update through the update manager. very good browser.
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missmoondog wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:19 am


not sure about chromium, as i don't have that installed, but as far as opera, you have to install that after installing snap and opera doesn't appear to be updating as it should in mint 20. i have a topic here asking how to remove snap and opera just because of that reason. can't even do that using synaptic.

as far as an easy to install chromium based browser that you can install, grab the vivaldi deb file from here, https://vivaldi.com/download/ and it will update through the update manager. very good browser.
Opera is not a snap package and it too, just as Vivaldi, installs using a .deb file downloaded directly from their website and is updated automatically once installed as it adds itself to the repository.

Opera, not being open-source, is neither included with Ubuntu as a Snap package or in Mint as a Flatpak. Same goes for Vivaldi.
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CtrlAltDel wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:26 am
missmoondog wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:19 am


not sure about chromium, as i don't have that installed, but as far as opera, you have to install that after installing snap and opera doesn't appear to be updating as it should in mint 20. i have a topic here asking how to remove snap and opera just because of that reason. can't even do that using synaptic.

as far as an easy to install chromium based browser that you can install, grab the vivaldi deb file from here, https://vivaldi.com/download/ and it will update through the update manager. very good browser.
Opera is not a snap package and it too, just as Vivaldi, installs using a .deb file downloaded directly from their website and is updated automatically once installed as it adds itself to the repository.
it doesn't, or at least didn't, install on my mint 20 using the deb file! had to install snap and then opera.
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missmoondog wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:33 am

it doesn't, or at least didn't, install on my mint 20 using the deb file! had to install snap and then opera.
I'm disappointed to learn of that, missmoondog. Normally, one wouldn't have to enable snap on Mint and install snapd and pull Opera from the Ubuntu Snap Store. I'm not entirely sure why the Opera .deb file didn't work properly for you on Mint 20.
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I think this thread is becoming unglued. We should try to stay with helping the OP instead of having a discussion. :wink:
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