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Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:35 am
by kurisutofu
Hello,
I would like to have access to Backtrack 4's applications. As it is based on Ubuntu with debian packages, I thought maybe we could access the backtrack's repository from Mint. Is it possible?
I know I could use backtrack but I would prefer staying on Mint all the time.

Re: Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:28 am
by mikl
some of the apps in Backtrack are allready in mint's depositories.

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sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
That for instance will install aircrack, and its gonna work with a whole bunch of them.
Of course some of them won't in that case you may have to install them from the sources.

P.S. If you're gonna compile don't forget to install build-essential.

Re: Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:21 pm
by rippedcb
i use USB version of backtrack..
i use Mint for day to day things, but when i feel like playing a bit.. just plug the usb in.. reboot and use backtrack for that session. Don't need to worry about installing anything or having anything written to my disk..

there are a few backtrack tools already available in the repo's.. but why take the headache? when all u need is a $10 usb storage that u can take anywhere with you :)

PS: have u tried playing with WPA networks yet??

Re: Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:52 pm
by kurisutofu
Thank you miki and rippedcd fro your replies.
I will try first miki's adavice as I tried yesterday to use backtrack from the liveCD and well, I'm new to linux so it is complicated a little to me :oops:

Also, I'd like to use the tools from mint so the hardware would be installed already. With Backtrack, my wireless or bluetooth card are not found and I don't know how to install them from backtrack ... and if I did, I would need to do it every time, right? As it is a live CD ...

rippedCD, right now I'm more interested in the BLuetooth functions but I will definitely try wireless functions with WPA keys :wink: (as soon as I understand what I will be doing )

Re: Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:26 pm
by rippedcb
yes.. u'd need to install them everytime..
if and when you get playin with WPA gimme a PM..
WEP is easy, but i haven't had time to play with WPA yet and it'll be fun and easier to do it at the same time as someone else 8)

Re: Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:15 pm
by mikl
installing drivers for your wifi card could be a princess depends on what chipset it is, if you have a hard time getting them to work let us know, we'll give you a hand. Usually wifi works out of the box if its not the case that could mean that you'll have to compile the drivers and if you're new that could be kinda frightening but its not that hard.

@rippedcb
As i write these lines, im getting ready to play with my wpa network :) /me crossing fingers

Re: Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:05 pm
by kurisutofu
Thank you for your offer to help, I think I'll need it...
My wireless card doesn't even work out of the box with Mint ... I had to find the driver and compile too (does running the command make - make install mean I am compiling?).

The thing I don't know is if compiling is the same on Mint and Backtrack, could you inform me on that?
If it's the same, I might do it quickly as I know where the drivers should be but I don't know if KDE and Gnome have the same compile method ...

When I'll be trying to play with the WPA, I'll let you know :wink:

Re: Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:43 pm
by mikl
kde and gnome are merely windows managers, they have nothing to do with compiling.
Yes, make and make install, means youre compiling.
In most cases you can't just compile that easy. Thats why most distributions have repos with packages allready in binary. When you want to install something they calculate the dependencies and install the software after downloading the binaries.
When you compile you are going to transform the sources (the actual code the coder wrote) into binaries (something the computer will understand) but you still have a problem, you will still need the dependencies!
Before you compile you will ned to install the other dependencies and most of the time kernel headers.. In mint before you compile just make sure you install the build-essential package.

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sudo apt-get install build-essential
Then take care of your dependencies, then compile.

In backtrack its the same thing, but i'm assuming you have allready what you need installed. That means you should only take care of the dependencies and then compile (i'm not 100% sure since i never tried to compile anything on bactrack... Could someone confirm that?)

Good luck with the rest :)

Re: Backtrack app on Mint

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:28 pm
by kurisutofu
Thank you mikl for your explanation.
I knew about compiling (I'm a programmer, though mostly on windows ...) but I didn't know how to find the dependencies. Is the "build-essential" made for that?