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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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With an i5 CPU and 8Gib this rig should run just fine with LM Cinamon OOB - it can be tweaked to run a little faster but never the less it should not be as slow as the OP is experiencing. The output of

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systemd-analyze blame
are waaaaaay to long.
I am a bit out of my depth but just based on my experience with installs on scores of older rigs - it sure smells like a hardware issue.
If a fresh install does not solve the problem I would replace the HDD with an SSD - you can get a cheap 120Gib SSD for ~$30 on Amazon.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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well.. rebooted
the system said to pull the usb and hit enter

it took a long time to actually shut down and come back up.. to Grub again. Sadly, the only thing I know how to do there is reboot, with the stick.. which is how I'm back again.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong either.. most errors seem to have something to do with existing partitions.

At this point, I'm wondering if I should reformat the whole machine and if there's a way to do that.
I have been leaving the multimedia codecs unchecked.. maybe that's the problem?
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:18 am well.. rebooted
the system said to pull the usb and hit enter
OK I am a bit confused as to what is going on here. "pull the USB and hit Enter" sounds like the live USB is still inserted after an install has been completed. So are we shooting an issue on Mint installed on bare metal on on a live USB? If on the laptop's HDD then the live USB should not be inserted when you reboot.
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:18 am At this point, I'm wondering if I should reformat the whole machine and if there's a way to do that.
I have been leaving the multimedia codecs unchecked.. maybe that's the problem?
There is certainly an easy way to reformat the whole HDD - boot up with the live USB and click install then follow the directions on the installer. There is a step in which you are asked where you want to install Mint - chose to use the entire HDD (that will "reformat the whole machine"). And yes check the multimedia codecs.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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majpooper wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:12 am With an i5 CPU and 8Gib this rig should run just fine with LM Cinamon OOB - it can be tweaked to run a little faster but never the less it should not be as slow as the OP is experiencing. The output of

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systemd-analyze blame
are waaaaaay to long.
I am a bit out of my depth but just based on my experience with installs on scores of older rigs - it sure smells like a hardware issue.
If a fresh install does not solve the problem I would replace the HDD with an SSD - you can get a cheap 120Gib SSD for ~$30 on Amazon.
I bought it last August.. doesn't really say older rig to me
before windows 10 died, I had 100% use of the hard drive and memory very frequently (blasted antimalware exe ) in the process monitor.. er task manager.. which is odd for a 1TB hard drive, right?
It's my first laptop. I am not even sure how to hard drive shop for this thing.. but off to amazon anyway.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:43 am I bought it last August.. doesn't really say older rig to me
before windows 10 died, I had 100% use of the hard drive and memory very frequently (blasted antimalware exe ) in the process monitor.. er task manager.. which is odd for a 1TB hard drive, right?
It's my first laptop. I am not even sure how to hard drive shop for this thing.. but off to amazon anyway.
Hold on . . . . When you say Windows 10 died? what do you mean? Were you have perfromance issues with the laptop with Windows 10 so you installed Mint? Or was there some other issue with Windows 10 but the laptop was not slow like it is now with Mint?

I can tell you where to get an inexpensive SSD for your HP - which is not a bad idea anyway. You need to get the right one and you need to know how to install it. But before you go that route let's see what some of the more knowledgeable folks on this forum have to say about replacing the HDD.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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majpooper wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:59 am
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:43 am I bought it last August.. doesn't really say older rig to me
before windows 10 died, I had 100% use of the hard drive and memory very frequently (blasted antimalware exe ) in the process monitor.. er task manager.. which is odd for a 1TB hard drive, right?
It's my first laptop. I am not even sure how to hard drive shop for this thing.. but off to amazon anyway.
Hold on . . . . When you say Windows 10 died? what do you mean? Were you have perfromance issues with the laptop with Windows 10 so you installed Mint? Or was there some other issue with Windows 10 but the laptop was not slow like it is now with Mint?

well..windows 10 never behaved like a tool .. always trying to be a nanny.. so, I may or may not have denied the system access to some of my files.. changed ownership and permissions to somewhere I shouldn't have.. on reboot.. the words fatal error came up... more than once.
It was a little slow here and there when something in the system decided to write to the disc.. usually the security suite or when I put off updating for a few days. It always felt punitive by microsoft that the slow downs happened after a couple days delaying updates.
It was never as slow as when I got that first install to work

I can tell you where to get an inexpensive SSD for your HP - which is not a bad idea anyway. You need to get the right one and you need to know how to install it. But before you go that route let's see what some of the more knowledgeable folks on this forum have to say about replacing the HDD.
I've added and replaced hard drives on towers.. I have more fear of choosing the wrong one than getting it installed properly.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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MatrixOpal wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 3:58 pm
spamegg wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 3:27 pm That command is systemd-analyze blame.
Thank you.. writing it down this time... tried to run it just now and got this
Failed to get timestamp properties of unit network.target: Connection timed out
This connection timed out may well be a big part of the problem. Are you sure this ethernet connection is working properly? The fact there is no wireless driver installed means you have to rely on the ethernet.

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Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 4000 bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: enp1s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: N/A port: 3000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:c821 
MatrixOpal wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 5:14 pmBut --> Does your machine run normally after it boots?

it does not.. everything hangs.. even typing here.
The last person who had this type of issue had installed Mint with encryption only on /home and after reinstalling without the encryption the system was speedy.

I would normally recommend you supply the output of cat /etc/fstab and lsblk, but I'm not sure what you currently have installed. Maybe you should boot to a live session of Mint and open GParted (which is software included on the live session) and let us see the partitions.

Also, it is extremely confusing if you answer someone's question inside of their quote, but don't say you are doing that. I missed several of your replies because you embedded them in someone else's response. I went back and carefully reread everything to realize you had supplied more information.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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Yeah, I asked him about his internet connection, too, but I think he missed it.
I was also going to ask him about encryption - are any disks or partitions encrypted?
And, as majpooper suggested, the question of Win10 "dying" raises other questions like potential disk integrity issues, perhaps.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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I apologise for some of the replies being in the quoted material.. it didn't hit me until I saw things posted that it would be hard to read.. my bad.. I'll try to not do that again.

My internet is wired fiber..cat 5 cable.. never had a problem with it.

Currently there's nothing installed.. I'm just running off the live boot.

The GParted stuff:
/dev/sda1 EFI System Partition fat 32, size 512 MiB.. used 8.85 Mib, unused 503.15 MiB Boot,esp
/dev/sda2 ext4 931.01 GiB, used 11.60 Gib
and
here's what I got with the network code
mint@mint:~$ Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
Network:: command not found
mint@mint:~$ vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 4000 bus ID: 01:00.0
vendor:: command not found
mint@mint:~$ chip ID: 10ec:8168

Command 'chip' not found, did you mean:

command 'crip' from deb crip (3.9-2)
command 'chips' from deb emboss (6.6.0+dfsg-7ubuntu2)
command 'chirp' from deb coop-computing-tools (7.0.22-1ubuntu1)
command 'chcp' from deb nilfs-tools (2.2.8-1)
command 'clip' from deb geomview (1.9.5-3build1)
command 'chi2' from deb paml (4.9j+dfsg-1)

Try: sudo apt install <deb name>

mint@mint:~$ IF: enp1s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
mint@mint:~$ Device-2: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
mint@mint:~$ vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: N/A port: 3000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:c821

Earlier today I tried to download other versions for possibly making other boot sticks.. mate..xsomebodyorother.. all downloads failed.. no explanation given.

I wish I could copy the info from the installation console (if that's what it's called).. I could highlight but couldn't copy.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:49 pmMy internet is wired fiber..cat 5 cable.. never had a problem with it.
Your ethernet use requires Mint to provide a driver. If that driver is not optimized for some reason, then it could be affecting your install. I mention that because it seemed the data you provided earlier had many slow network-related results.
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:49 pmCurrently there's nothing installed.. I'm just running off the live boot.

The GParted stuff:
/dev/sda1 EFI System Partition fat 32, size 512 MiB.. used 8.85 Mib, unused 503.15 MiB Boot,esp
/dev/sda2 ext4 931.01 GiB, used 11.60 Gib
That data indicates something is installed on your hard drive.

I would think there would be at least one additional partition showing which would be the usb/dvd from which you are running the live session.
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:49 pm Earlier today I tried to download other versions for possibly making other boot sticks.. mate..xsomebodyorother.. all downloads failed.. no explanation given.
That sounds like it could be an issue related to networking. I'm not sure if it might be in Mint or in the UEFI of your computer.
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:49 pmI wish I could copy the info from the installation console (if that's what it's called).. I could highlight but couldn't copy.
What information is this? Photographs can be used if one can not get screen shots.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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There is a very small crack on the bottom of the case stemming from the ethernet port.. maybe an inch and a half.. it's a tight fit that port.

Could that affect installation?

as for drive contents.. when I try to boot without the stick, I am taken to grub..it doesn't give me an OS to boot to which is why I didn't think anything was installed. I don't know why it didn't show the usb

I ran $ sudo dpkg --get-selections .. the result is miles long.

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accountsservice install
acl install
acpi-support install
acpid install
add-apt-key install
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adwaita-icon-theme install
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mint@mint:~$

The installation panel has a small box we can click to open on the bottom.. it's only about 4 lines visable at a time.. but scrollable. It's the installation progress. I don't think screen shotting it would help unless there were dozens of them. Somehow I don't think my ancient screenie program is going to work in linux.. I'll find one when I get a viable installation.
Old broad looking for new OS tricks.. it could happen.
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The installation panel has a small box we can click to open on the bottom.. it's only about 4 lines visable at a time.. but scrollable. It's the installation progress. I don't think screen shotting it would help unless there were dozens of them. Somehow I don't think my ancient screenie program is going to work in linux.. I'll find one when I get a viable installation.
Last edited by MatrixOpal on Tue May 11, 2021 7:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

Post by newlyminted7 »

Have you tested your internet speed with a service like https://www.speedtest.net ?

The <code> tags should be square brackets, by the way.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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I know this may be pointless and possibly an incoherent solution, but try just plugging in the power cord to that laptop and now test everything.

By default, most laptops that run on battery only mode have the cpu performance setting set to power saver or balanced mode. *shrugs*. It's the one thing no one else here has suggested yet. Why not? :D
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:18 am
well.. rebooted
the system said to pull the usb and hit enter

it took a long time to actually shut down and come back up.. to Grub again. Sadly, the only thing I know how to do there is reboot, with the stick.. which is how I'm back again.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong either.. most errors seem to have something to do with existing partitions.

This is why I never select " restart now" at the end of any Linux mint installation wizard...and instead I select " continue testing" ...
This way I can shut down the system via the gui icons. and when it's completely turned off..I know when it's done at the appropriate point to finally remove that Linux Mint installation media thumb drive, then push the power to power it back on ( and if needs be manually tell it to boot from that storage drive I installed Linux Mint into)

Xfce has been good about giving you the correct prompts/timings about when to remove the usb thumb drive " installation media" at the end of the install process,but I've noticed depending on if it's UEFI or legacy mode install going on...that it's a guessing game on Cinnamon as to when is the right time to remove the thumb drive

So I always stay in the habit of selecting " continue testing" and shut down either via terminal command " shutdown now" or clicking gui buttons for it. If you disconnect the installation thumb drive too soon, you'll boot into a goofy grub prompt..if you do it too late..you'll boot right back into the installation wizard from the thumb drive.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:35 pmas for drive contents.. when I try to boot without the stick, I am taken to grub..it doesn't give me an OS to boot to which is why I didn't think anything was installed. I don't know why it didn't show the usb

I ran $ sudo dpkg --get-selections .. the result is miles long.
We did not need to see miles of files. If you verified the ISO before you put it on the usb then you have a standard install.

If you are taken to grub and can't get into an operating system, where are you running this command?
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:35 pmThe installation panel has a small box we can click to open on the bottom.. it's only about 4 lines visable at a time.. but scrollable. It's the installation progress. I don't think screen shotting it would help unless there were dozens of them.
I thought there was something specific you wanted to show us which is why I mentioned taking a photo. We do not need to see screenshots of a standard install.

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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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newlyminted7 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:41 pm Have you tested your internet speed with a service like https://www.speedtest.net ?

The <code> tags should be square brackets, by the way.
speed test ping 1, download 114.68 Mbps, upload 12.05
.. brackets.. that's what I get for typing instead of using the buttons
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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motoryzen wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:11 pm I know this may be pointless and possibly an incoherent solution, but try just plugging in the power cord to that laptop and now test everything.

By default, most laptops that run on battery only mode have the cpu performance setting set to power saver or balanced mode. *shrugs*. It's the one thing no one else here has suggested yet. Why not? :D
it's very rarely not plugged in - mostly when it's turned off and in it's case.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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SMG wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:31 pm
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:35 pmas for drive contents.. when I try to boot without the stick, I am taken to grub..it doesn't give me an OS to boot to which is why I didn't think anything was installed. I don't know why it didn't show the usb

I ran $ sudo dpkg --get-selections .. the result is miles long.
We did not need to see miles of files. If you verified the ISO before you put it on the usb then you have a standard install.

If you are taken to grub and can't get into an operating system, where are you running this command?
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:35 pmThe installation panel has a small box we can click to open on the bottom.. it's only about 4 lines visible at a time.. but scrollable. It's the installation progress. I don't think screen shotting it would help unless there were dozens of them.
I thought there was something specific you wanted to show us which is why I mentioned taking a photo. We do not need to see screenshots of a standard install.

Here is an image which indicates where the code tags are located. You can edit your prior post to add the correct codes.
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Sorry about the long paste in the wrong brackets. I'll try to fix it.

I am not the one who put the iso on the stick.. I bought it.. sad, I know.
I didn't have a functioning computer to make one at the time.

I am taken to grub when I try to boot without the stick, after unsuccessful installs.
From the stick, live boot, it's functional to run commands in terminal.
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:49 pm I am not the one who put the iso on the stick.. I bought it..
Please post the inxi -Fxxxrz from the live session and paste the results within the code tags.
MatrixOpal wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 7:49 pm I am taken to grub when I try to boot without the stick, after unsuccessful installs.
What options do you see in grub?

Also, what boot options are available in your UEFI?
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Re: 3 days in and everything is really slow

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newlyminted7 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 4:32 pm Yeah, I asked him about his internet connection, too, but I think he missed it.
I was also going to ask him about encryption - are any disks or partitions encrypted?
And, as majpooper suggested, the question of Win10 "dying" raises other questions like potential disk integrity issues, perhaps.
Nothing is encrypted, that I'm aware of.
I'm pretty sure windows died because of something I did... the proclamation by microsoft that I'm not allowed in folders on my own computer .. access forbidden, usually had me taking ownership and changing permissions .. I probably denied the system access to something important... after delaying an update for almost a week.
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