Windows Applications Cannot Run

RayKarma · Post by **RayKarma** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:48 am

Hi everyone,

I'm new to linux, hope you can help me with this issue.

I've installed Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon (5.0.5) with kernel 5.11.0-34-generic on a DELL laptop with specs as below:

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T6600 2.20Ghz
Ram: 2Gb
Graphics Card: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series

Everything works fine, even though I struggle a bit with configurations.

But there is one thing that I cannot make do is to run Windows Applications. I've tried a lot of command line, purge and reinstall wine, winetricks, playonlinux and graphics driver.

But the apps cannot run. They were installed just fine, then when I launched them, I got a black windows and they are unresponsive.

Please help since my sister needs her laptop to work as soon as possible for works.

Thank you guys in advance.

decrepit · Post by **decrepit** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:59 am

wine doesn't run all windows apps out of the box. One trick is to start the program in the terminal, then with any luck you'll get a printout of any problems, Usually a missing dll installing that can fix the problem. I find it's better to run windows in a virtual box, or dual boot.

Website · Post by **Moem** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:23 am

I suggest looking up your applications in the Wine HQ database before trying to install them. Not all Windows applications are suitable to run on Wine. In fact I daresay most are not.

If at all possible, it's usually better and easier to use a native alternative.

Post by **Pierre** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:26 am

another option is to search in this DataBase:
https://www.codeweavers.com/
to see if your program is listed there, and to see how well it does work.

do post back here, your results, so that we may further assist your endeavours.

RayKarma · Post by **RayKarma** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:57 am

Hi,

Thank you all for you responses. I did check on WineHQ and those applications are definitely installable.

But I am trying to reinstall and update the wine-stable and libvkd3d1 as the terminal said they are kept back by running

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sudo apt-get install wine-stable libvkd3d1

. It's estimating at 2 hrs. I'll get back as soon as the update goes.

Meanwhile, can you care to clarify this or how to do it, decrepit, like I mentioned earlier, I am 3 day-old in Linux

decrepit wrote: ⤴Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:59 am Usually a missing dll installing that can fix the problem.

lsemmens · Post by **lsemmens** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:05 am

Stupid question, Can you tell us which apps you are trying to run? My usual route of running win specific apps is to dual boot. Of course, I still get causght out occasionally, For example: musescore is a cross platform app, except, (as I discovered today) there is no 32bit equivalent for Whingers, so I now, have to install 64bt windows to make it work. Why do I persist with Windows? Bluddy bits of fruit (Apple products) don't like Linux, along with Google Sketchup (which isn't so bad).

Hoser Rob · Post by **Hoser Rob** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:54 am

Moem wrote: ⤴Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:23 am I suggest looking up your applications in the Wine HQ database before trying to install them. Not all Windows applications are suitable to run on Wine. In fact I daresay most are not.

If at all possible, it's usually better and easier to use a native alternative.

+1. Most apps fail, as you will disacover if you read the wine database linked above. BTW if the app isn't rated gold at least there it's not going to work properly.

WIne is such a stupid idea that it will never be reliable. I just wish so many rubbish Linux blogs/articles wouldn't give so many new users the impression they'll be able to use all their Windows apps.

wwfwng · Post by **wwfwng** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:05 am

Here is another angle. Do you actually need those apps to run in Linux or is there a Linux app that you can use?

decrepit · Post by **decrepit** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:16 pm

RayKarma wrote: ⤴Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:57 am >>>>>>

Meanwhile, can you care to clarify this or how to do it, decrepit, like I mentioned earlier, I am 3 day-old in Linux

decrepit wrote: ⤴Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:59 am Usually a missing dll installing that can fix the problem.

Sorry it's a bit hard for me at the moment, I'm not using wine on this OS, so I can't experiment to make sure I get it right.
But very basically you open your program from a terminal, by typing in something like this,

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wine /home/you/program.exe

If you have that command correct it should try to start your program, and in the background will report any problems.

I'll change OS later, and see if I can get a more explicit example

decrepit · Post by **decrepit** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:34 pm

Just had a play on another computer.

So If you select, "show hidden files", in your file browser, then open the ".wine" directory, your program is probably in the usual windows place, ie /c/program-files.
So copy the route shown in you file browser exactly. then place behind .wine like this

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wine .wine/c/your program.exe

Note if in Program Files. you have to place that in quotes thus, "Program Files". As linux doesn't jump gaps in names.

motoryzen · Post by **motoryzen** » Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:06 pm

I'm almost willing to bet the correct way is :

wine start /path/to/program/.exe

or

wine start /unix /path/to/program/.exe

This is me speaking from experience in creating shortcuts to games..and it's never failed me yet as long as all .dll and other coherent dependencies ( some games...even dxvk is involved to get them working. winecfg in terminal )

decrepit · Post by **decrepit** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:12 am

Nup, you don't need "wine start", just "wine" works fine. I just did it on another computer,

motoryzen · Post by **motoryzen** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:33 am

Actually yeah...it is needed at least for my setup. Now I don't know if it matters, but I installed Wine per Winehq's specific instructions per my distro ( 20.04 focal).

Here's the exact result when I only use " wine /path/to/game.exe "

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wine '/mnt/4TB ssd Games,et/Game Shortcuts/Alan Wake'\''s American Nightmare.desktop' 
0034:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0034:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0080:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0080:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
008c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
008c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0054:err:ntoskrnl:ZwLoadDriver failed to create driver L"\\Registry\\Machine\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\nsiproxy": c0000142
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"nsiproxy" failed to start: 1114
005c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
005c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
002c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
002c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0024:err:process:exec_process L"Z:\\mnt\\4TB ssd Games,et\\Game Shortcuts\\Alan Wake's American Nightmare.desktop" not supported on this system
tpcs@tpcs:~$ 0070:err:rpc:RpcAssoc_BindConnection receive failed with error 1726

Which results in nothing happening...the game doesn't even try to launch

Now here's exactly what happens when the game actually launched and played correctly for me

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wine start /unix '/mnt/4TB ssd Games,et/Games/Alan Wake'\''s American Nightmare/alan_wakes_american_nightmare.exe'
0034:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0034:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0064:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0064:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
008c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
008c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0054:err:ntoskrnl:ZwLoadDriver failed to create driver L"\\Registry\\Machine\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\nsiproxy": c0000142
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"nsiproxy" failed to start: 1114
005c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
005c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
002c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
002c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00ec:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00ec:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0024:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0024:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
tpcs@tpcs:~$ 00f4:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00f4:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00f4:fixme:heap:RtlSetHeapInformation 00000000 1 00000000 0 stub
00f4:fixme:thread:SetThreadIdealProcessor (FFFFFFFE 0): stub
00f8:fixme:thread:SetThreadIdealProcessor (FFFFFFFE 3): stub
00fc:fixme:thread:SetThreadIdealProcessor (FFFFFFFE 3): stub
00f4:fixme:ntdll:NtQuerySystemInformation info_class SYSTEM_PERFORMANCE_INFORMATION
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
0104:fixme:thread:SetThreadIdealProcessor (FFFFFFFE 2): stub
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d:resource_check_usage Unhandled usage flags 0x40.
010c:fixme:thread:SetThreadIdealProcessor (FFFFFFFE 1): stub
0110:fixme:thread:SetThreadIdealProcessor (FFFFFFFE 1): stub
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
00f4:fixme:d3d9:Direct3DShaderValidatorCreate9 Returning stub validator 67C9E028.
0124:fixme:avrt:AvSetMmThreadCharacteristicsW (L"Audio",1241FF0C): stub
00f4:fixme:thread:SetThreadIdealProcessor (00000164 2): stub
0100:fixme:d3d:state_linepattern_w Setting line patterns is not supported in OpenGL core contexts.
00fc:fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0000: semi-stub! Returning default layout.
00fc:fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_ActivateKeyboardLayout 0x4090409, 0100: semi-stub!
00fc:fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_ActivateKeyboardLayout KLF_SETFORPROCESS not supported
00fc:fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_ActivateKeyboardLayout (nil), 0100: semi-stub!
00fc:fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_ActivateKeyboardLayout KLF_SETFORPROCESS not supported
00fc:fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_UnloadKeyboardLayout 0x4090409: stub!
00fc:fixme:system:SystemParametersInfoW Unimplemented action: 59 (SPI_SETSTICKYKEYS)
00fc:fixme:system:SystemParametersInfoW Unimplemented action: 53 (SPI_SETTOGGLEKEYS)
00fc:fixme:system:SystemParametersInfoW Unimplemented action: 51 (SPI_SETFILTERKEYS)
00f4:fixme:d3d:wined3d_swapchain_set_gamma_ramp Ignoring flags 0x1.
00f4:fixme:d3d:wined3d_swapchain_set_gamma_ramp Ignoring flags 0x1.

Now as far as the exact messages......THAT..might vary in info depending on the individual windows-native title.

Here's Amnesia Dark Descent

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wine '/mnt/4TB ssd Games,et/Games/Amnesia - The Dark Descent/redist/Launcher.exe'
0034:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0034:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0064:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0064:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
008c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
008c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0054:err:ntoskrnl:ZwLoadDriver failed to create driver L"\\Registry\\Machine\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\nsiproxy": c0000142
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"nsiproxy" failed to start: 1114
005c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
005c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
002c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
002c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0024:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0024:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00ec:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00ec:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0024:fixme:msimtf:ActiveIMMApp_Activate Stub

A separate wine/windows looking pop up error message appeared saying

could not load main init file: config/main_init.cfg

and when closing it..nothing happens

However here is the successful game launch terminal info

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wine start /unix '/mnt/4TB ssd Games,et/Games/Amnesia - The Dark Descent/redist/Launcher.exe'
0034:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0034:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0064:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0064:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
008c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
008c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0054:err:ntoskrnl:ZwLoadDriver failed to create driver L"\\Registry\\Machine\\System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\nsiproxy": c0000142
003c:fixme:service:scmdatabase_autostart_services Auto-start service L"nsiproxy" failed to start: 1114
005c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
005c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
002c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
002c:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0024:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
0024:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00ec:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00ec:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
tpcs@tpcs:~$ 00f4:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00f4:fixme:font:get_name_record_codepage encoding 20 not handled, platform 1.
00f4:fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0080: semi-stub! Returning default layout.
00f4:fixme:keyboard:X11DRV_LoadKeyboardLayout L"00000409", 0001: semi-stub! Returning default layout.
00f4:fixme:msimtf:ActiveIMMApp_Activate Stub

This site keeps saying " file too large" when I tried to attach ( as well as " insert Image" which is two buttons to the left of the paintbrush symbol) even when I reduced it to 633KB to show proof it works. (sigh)

Schultz · Post by **Schultz** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:39 am

I don't understand why someone who is new to Linux would install it on someone else's computer who needs if for their work.

Website · Post by **Moem** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:47 pm

motoryzen wrote: ⤴Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:33 am This site keeps saying " file too large" when I tried to attach ( as well as " insert Image" which is two buttons to the left of the paintbrush symbol) even when I reduced it to 633KB to show proof it works. (sigh)

The limit is 200KB. Or you can upload it somewhere and place the direct link to the image (has to be https) here between [rimg][/rimg] tags. Then there is no limit.

motoryzen · Post by **motoryzen** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:13 pm

Moem wrote: ⤴Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:47 pm
motoryzen wrote: ⤴Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:33 am This site keeps saying " file too large" when I tried to attach ( as well as " insert Image" which is two buttons to the left of the paintbrush symbol) even when I reduced it to 633KB to show proof it works. (sigh)
The limit is 200KB. Or you can upload it somewhere and place the direct link to the image (has to be https) here between [rimg][/rimg] tags. Then there is no limit.

Thanks for the info Moem

I tried the rimg deal also but it wouldn't paste there ( firefox user if that matters) *shrugs*. Either way..I can shrink the file size using imagemagick....

convert <INPUT_FILE> -quality 10% <OUTPUT_FILE>

I'll just turn the shrinking part up to 11 xD

decrepit · Post by **decrepit** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:36 pm

motoryzen wrote: ⤴Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:33 am Actually yeah...it is needed at least for my setup. Now I don't know if it matters, but I installed Wine per Winehq's specific instructions per my distro ( 20.04 focal).

Here's the exact result when I only use " wine /path/to/game.exe "
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wine '/mnt/4TB ssd Games,et/Game Shortcuts/Alan Wake'\''s American Nightmare.desktop' 
>>>>

Well that's weird, way beyond my payscale. I've always just used "wine" to start with no problems.
But I notice above there's no ".exe" at the end of your code above.

And also don't know if it matters, but I think the computer I tested on yesterday, had wine installed directly from "software manager"

motoryzen · Post by **motoryzen** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:37 pm

decrepit wrote: ⤴Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:36 pm
motoryzen wrote: ⤴Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:33 am Actually yeah...it is needed at least for my setup. Now I don't know if it matters, but I installed Wine per Winehq's specific instructions per my distro ( 20.04 focal).

Here's the exact result when I only use " wine /path/to/game.exe "
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wine '/mnt/4TB ssd Games,et/Game Shortcuts/Alan Wake'\''s American Nightmare.desktop' 
>>>>
Well that's weird, way beyond my payscale. I've always just used "wine" to start with no problems.
But I notice above there's no ".exe" at the end of your code above.

And also don't know if it matters, but I think the computer I tested on yesterday, had wine installed directly from "software manager"

"wine start /unix '/mnt/4TB ssd Games,et/Games/Alan Wake'\''s American Nightmare/alan_wakes_american_nightmare.exe'"
" wine start /unix '/mnt/4TB ssd Games,et/Games/Amnesia - The Dark Descent/redist/Launcher.exe'"

both were at the top of the terminal commands....They were/are there. So I'm not sure where the confusion came from *shrugs*

As far as whether or not to install Wine from Software Manager or directly from winehq's instructions via terminal commands. For whatever odd reason I've never had too luck with any other method ( including Software manager that I can recall) with installing Wine and it just working.

decrepit · Post by **decrepit** » Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:41 pm

Well what I've posted above, is only what shows up on this computer, looking at the first line of your code, in the first instance of you trying just "wine". It is there for the 3 others. so something weird is happening here

motoryzen · Post by **motoryzen** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:33 pm

decrepit[quote wrote:Re: Windows Applications Cannot Run
Post by motoryzen » Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:06 pm

I'm almost willing to bet the correct way is :

wine start /path/to/program/.exe

or

wine start /unix /path/to/program/.exe

This is me speaking from experience in creating shortcuts to games..and it's never failed me yet as long as all .dll and other coherent dependencies ( some games...even dxvk is involved to get them working. winecfg in terminal )

post_id=2068787 time=1632012085 user_id=243773]
Well what I've posted above, is only what shows up on this computer, looking at the first line of your code, in the first instance of you trying just "wine". It is there for the 3 others. so something weird is happening here
[/quote]

Here is PRECISELY the first post I made involving this " Windows Applications Cannot Run" post you create

and I quote

Now where in that do you see " wine /path/to/program/.exe " or " wine /unix /path/to/program/.exe

I clearly put it as " wine start" ...So you're getting confused there with user here named ...... decrepit. not me. Scroll back up or on the first page of this post and re read what all decrepit posted