Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone (SOLVED)
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Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone (SOLVED)
I have a Patriot Burst 256gb SSD, that I have installed to store my BackinTime and Timeshift. I wanted to create a Image with FoxClone. When I boot with FoxClone it does not show that drive.
Also it reports as less space.
And why does it report Part-1? I have used Gparted in Live System and Boot with Live Disk, same results.
Thoughts please?
Also it reports as less space.
And why does it report Part-1? I have used Gparted in Live System and Boot with Live Disk, same results.
Thoughts please?
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
I don't see a "Part-1" in either of your images.
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
Here you go Mike
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
Well I discovered that the drive in in ROOT for some reason, using Disks again, deleted the partition, added the partition, now it is no longer in ROOT, BackinTime sees it TimeShift sees it, now to try FoxClone!
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
Still don't get the Part1 thing though
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
Well, Foxclone won't see the drive
Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
Unless he is very busy with something person or busy related..I'm willing to bet AndyMH ( the Foxclone dev) will post a comment here reasonably soon that will prove to be helpful. He's done well on helping out others on this site for years with not only Foxclone but other problems. I apologize for I have nothing helpful to offer yet.
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
I wonder why you have a calculator or phone next to your partition:
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
either you forgot, or never knew the fact that Gparted always produces partitions as a Root Owned partition.
you must change ownership of the partition after the fact.
if you used Gparted to create the partition, Foxclone will not see it while running normally, but if you use Gparted from the Foxclone menu, you will then be able to see it.
Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
Boot your foxclone stick, open a terminal and run
sudo parted --list
. Post the output. To do that you can either:- connect to the internet - how is explained in the user guide and use the palemoon browser in foxclone to connect to the forum.
- copy the terminal output into a file using the text editor (mousepad) in foxclone, save it and then copy the file to one of the drives in your system using the file manager.
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
They're both basing off the same number of Bytes-- 240,056,459,591.frostymusic wrote: ⤴Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:37 pm I have a Patriot Burst 256gb SSD, that I have installed to store my BackinTime and Timeshift. I wanted to create a Image with FoxClone. When I boot with FoxClone it does not show that drive.
Also it reports as less space.Patriot Burst in Disks.png
And why does it report Part-1?PatriotBurstin Gparted.png
I have used Gparted in Live System and Boot with Live Disk, same results.
Thoughts please?
It's just that Disks (like the Patriot Marketing Department) is doing base-10 math vs. gparted doing (correct) base-2 math
240... / 10^9 (1,000,000,000) = 240 GB
240... / 2^30 (1,073,741,824) = 223.57 GiB
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
Well I did not know that Gparted did that (root), making a note of that.
Andy, when I was last in Foxclone, I found my Ethernet connection, but it would not connect. I was expecting a request for the password but it never displayed, hence no Pale Moon access. I will look at it again.
That is it for now.
Oh,djph, thanks for that explanation on the drive size.
Andy, when I was last in Foxclone, I found my Ethernet connection, but it would not connect. I was expecting a request for the password but it never displayed, hence no Pale Moon access. I will look at it again.
That is it for now.
Oh,djph, thanks for that explanation on the drive size.
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
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Model: Samsung Portable SSD T5 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 1049kB 1000GB 1000GB primary ext4
Model: Samsung Portable SSD T5 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 1000kB 1000GB 1000GB primary ext4
Model: SanDisk Cruzer Fit (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 4005MB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
2 104kB 2660kB 2556kB primary esp
Model: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1TB (nvme)
Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size File system Name Flags
1 1049kB 538MB 537MB fat32 EFI System Partition boot, esp
2 538MB 1000GB 1000GB ext4
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
A 256GB drive is not showing in the parted output you posted, which would explain why foxclone doesn't see it. Why it is not showing - don't know.
If you boot normally and run
If you boot normally and run
sudo parted --list
again, post the output, does it show in that?It is a bit clunky in the current version of foxclone, you have to click on edit network connections and set the password that way and connect again. Page 40 of the user guide: In the next version of foxclone, yet to be released, it is simple, click on a wifi connection and it will prompt for the password.I found my Ethernet connection, but it would not connect. I was expecting a request for the password but it never displayed, hence no Pale Moon access. I will look at it again.
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
Got the wifi figured out.
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Model: ATA Patriot Burst (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 240GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size File system Name Flags
1 1049kB 240GB 240GB ext4
Model: Samsung Portable SSD T5 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 1049kB 1000GB 1000GB primary ext4
Model: Samsung Portable SSD T5 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 1000kB 1000GB 1000GB primary ext4
Model: SanDisk Cruzer Fit (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdd: 4005MB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
2 104kB 2660kB 2556kB primary esp
Model: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1TB (nvme)
Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: gpt
Disk Flags:
Number Start End Size File system Name Flags
1 1049kB 538MB 537MB fat32 EFI System Partition boot, esp
2 538MB 1000GB 1000GB ext4
Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
So the drive shows up in parted when booting normally, but not when booting the foxclone iso and running parted?
Looking at your other posts, you are running with a 5.13 kernel, foxclone boots with a 5.4 kernel. That might be the problem, but why foxclone sees your other sata drives (assume on a usb connection as they show as portable) and not the Patriot, not sure.
Apart from the kernel, the only other things I can think of is move the Patriot onto a different sata port, there may be some incompatibility there that the later kernel fixes*. The other issue that the 5.13 kernel seems to fix is the sata mode. Have a look in BIOS and see if you can find a setting for sata mode, if it is set to RST then change it to AHCI. Some BIOS manufacturers make it very difficult to find this setting, you may have to set an admin password first.
Best guess at the moment - it is the sata mode.
Have PMed you.
* with an nvme drive in the system, on some mobos it masks one of the sata ports. But I think if this is happening you would have the same problem booting normally.
Looking at your other posts, you are running with a 5.13 kernel, foxclone boots with a 5.4 kernel. That might be the problem, but why foxclone sees your other sata drives (assume on a usb connection as they show as portable) and not the Patriot, not sure.
Apart from the kernel, the only other things I can think of is move the Patriot onto a different sata port, there may be some incompatibility there that the later kernel fixes*. The other issue that the 5.13 kernel seems to fix is the sata mode. Have a look in BIOS and see if you can find a setting for sata mode, if it is set to RST then change it to AHCI. Some BIOS manufacturers make it very difficult to find this setting, you may have to set an admin password first.
Best guess at the moment - it is the sata mode.
Have PMed you.
* with an nvme drive in the system, on some mobos it masks one of the sata ports. But I think if this is happening you would have the same problem booting normally.
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
You were spot on Andy, drive was marked to be Optain Memory Anyhow, changed it to AHCI and presto! Foxclone saw it . And although I am using kernel 5.13, Foxclone booted just fine, so kudos on your efforts on Foxclone.Have a look in BIOS and see if you can find a setting for sata mode, if it is set to RST then change it to AHCI.
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Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
To Mikeflan.....
Yeah, I looked again into gparted and noticed what you saw. Like a calculator or desk phone next to the drive description. Not sure what that is about?
Yeah, I looked again into gparted and noticed what you saw. Like a calculator or desk phone next to the drive description. Not sure what that is about?
Re: Internal SSD shows up in Live System, but not in FoxClone
You were lucky! Had a few posts lately from users who could not find the setting in BIOS to change it. Some manufacturers make it really difficult if not impossible to change.frostymusic wrote: ⤴Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:02 pm drive was marked to be Optain Memory Anyhow, changed it to AHCI and presto!
RST/optane - an intel idea, have a small SSD buffering your main drive to make it faster.
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