Are there some files missing in Synaptic?

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Are there some files missing in Synaptic?

Postby WinXpNewb » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:02 am

I'm a new user who doesn't know yet how to compile so I was downloading all my programs through synaptic and I noticed that both gpodder and mermaid-pyqt are missing in Synaptic in Celena

Is this normal for Synaptic to remove programs every new upgrade? I think many of the fps games like Alien Arena are also missing.

I'm not sure because I screwed up installing Mint. I installed the Nvidia drivers in Envy and it booted me into the non-graphical terminal and I had to remove envy through there and I'm not sure I wrote the right command to erase /usr/share/envy and then I clicked 6 which removes all the nvidia drivers rather than 2 and then pressed 1.

It looks to boot ok and the 2 don't appear to be related but again, I'm not sure.

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Postby linuxviolin » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:06 am

WinXpNewb wrote:Is this normal for Synaptic to remove programs every new upgrade?

Synaptic use repositories. If in the repositories such or such programs are not there or if in your sources.list it misses repositories then yes Synaptic will not show these files...

Synaptic is just a GUI-frontend to 'apt' and does not do anything “by itselfâ€￾ :wink:
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Postby WinXpNewb » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:13 pm

Yes, but I also tried it in apt and no luck. In Cassandra, I don't remember adding any repository because I don't know how to and the programs were there.

I remember because I didn't know how to upgrade to the latest version of gpodder when synaptic wouldn't show the new version in mark as upgrade.

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Postby linuxviolin » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:39 pm

I return to this topic.

WinXpNewb don't forget also that in Celena "The backports and proposed repositories will be disabled so even if you actually upgrade manually" (http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=54)

So if the programs which you wish are there you will not find them. :wink:
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Postby WinXpNewb » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:29 am

When I first read that post, I thought only the update manager would disappear. At first, I was worried but I tried removing the update manager in Cassandra through synaptic when it was bothering me and I didn't feel Mint get invaded by hordes of viruses.

I thought that was the only change in Celena so I switched to it.

How come the repositories were also disabled? and after rereading all the new post in that blog, should I have a firewall/antivirus installed in Mint to make sure it's secure because I'm not getting updates?

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Postby Exakun » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:52 am

WinXpNewb,

There is almost no need to install an antivirus in linux (the only time would be if you are planning to use it as a web server and you want to make sure the files are free from malware that would affect other less fortunate operating systems).

As for the rest of your problem, I don't really know how to help... sorry :(

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Postby linuxviolin » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:01 am

K.I.S.S. ===> "Keep It Simple, Stupid"
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Postby WinXpNewb » Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:42 pm

I'm sorry, I should've clarified. I read and heard many of the arguments against using an antivirus/firewall for Linux but the comments section from that blog post have so many users against the updates. Some questioning the security of Mint that I really don't know what else to ask.

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Postby Helmut » Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:43 am

WinXPNewb, lets have a realistic look:
Don't worry about anti-virus unless you want to download stuff for passing on to Windows-users. Virus affects them, not us.

A firewall does make sense, even with Linux being unendlessly safer by design. Its all about being on the safe side, although you probably won't ever need it. I have never heard of a Linux user really needing it on a desktop.

But consider this: Even in Linux it is good practise to have a copy of your own files (letters, bills...) outside of your box. Should your box ever get messed up, get stolen, blow up or get attacked by virus, your stuff is not lost. Remember how quick and easy it is to install Mint? Reinstall is even quicker, and you just add you own files and you are back with a running system in no time. Don't worry, be happy with Linux. But thats just my personal opinion after four years of Linux at home, and almost 15 or so of Windoze at work.
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Postby WinXpNewb » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:56 pm

Thanks Helmut but that still doesn't explain the security concerns addressed by people who are against the lack of update manager in Mint Celena.


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